What are the teams for WWIII?

[Galileo Galilei]

What are the teams for WWIII?

OK, folks, let's say WWIII broke out. What would be the teams? Who would be the Allies and who would be the Axis? Would anyone be neutral? And who would win? Here is my projection and I encourage you all to weigh in on your thoughts.

Axis

China
Russia
India
North Korea
Iran
all the Arab nations (except Turkey)
all of Africa (except South Africa, Liberia, and Sierra Leone)
all of Central America (except Belize)
all of SE Asia (except Singapore)
all of central Asia
all of South America
the United Nations (considered as a governmental unit controlled by the Axis)

Neutral

France
Switzerland
Japan
Turkey
Mexico
the Vatican

Allies

United States
Canada
Great Britain
Australia
New Zealand
South Africa
Israel
Liberia
Sierra Leone
Europe
Belize
South Korea
the rest of Europe
Singapore

Winner

the Axis

[James Madison]

No chance India fights along side of China, Russia, and Pakistan. They'd be chopping at the bit to reclaim central Asia.

Edit: I can't see South America being a player. No offense to the patriots in SA, but there just isn't that much there to fight over, save for a few cities along the Atlantic coastline.

[alucard13mmfmj]

Stalemate..

USA would have armed patriots resisting axis.
Russia and China would be too big to conquer with conventional weapons and they'd probably also use geurella tactics.

Seems the battlefield dynamics has changed with guerilla warfare beign used more often.

[matt0611]

Japan would probably be on the Allies side, they have strained ties with China and have close ties with the US. Plus we have bases there.

[FrankRep]

China is set to become the world's largest economy by 2030 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-American_relations#Theoretical_Economic_Forecasts) , why would they get involved in a war?

[DamianTV]

Id say the teams are the Banks, and their Victims. Everything else is a facade to maintain the illusion that wars, govts, and central banks are even necessary.

[James Madison]

China is set to become the world's largest economy by 2030 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-American_relations#Theoretical_Economic_Forecasts) , why would they get involved in a war?

For the same reason the Roman Empire kept expanding. It's human nature to want more.

[Drex]

All of South America on the Axis?

[Galileo Galilei]

All of South America on the Axis?

OK, I'm willing to agree that some of South America might stay out of the war. But I don't think Venezuela would stay out. I also think Columbia, Bolivia, and Peru have had it with the US drug war and would want in.

[Galileo Galilei]

Japan would probably be on the Allies side, they have strained ties with China and have close ties with the US. Plus we have bases there.

That might be, they would be pressured by US interests to get in the the Allies side.

[alucard13mmfmj]

All of South America on the Axis?

Didnt anyone remember that US lend/gave money to the brazillians to build an aquarium? lol

[Galileo Galilei]

No chance India fights along side of China, Russia, and Pakistan. They'd be chopping at the bit to reclaim central Asia.

Edit: I can't see South America being a player. No offense to the patriots in SA, but there just isn't that much there to fight over, save for a few cities along the Atlantic coastline.

I think India is the key to WWIII. If they do not join with Russia and China, then the Axis will lose the war.

[nobody's_hero]

The world versus the U.S.

Because when the dollar collapses, the whole f*cking world is gonna be mad at us.

[mad cow]

I think our team should get Mexico,they're sneaky and they're good with knives.

Also,the other team should be forced to take France.

[otherone]

yes...knife-play will sure come in handy.

[ghengis86]

Id say the teams are the Banks, and their Victims. Everything else is a facade to maintain the illusion that wars, govts, and central banks are even necessary.

+1 this is the truth, stripped to the core.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

no winners , only devastation

[helmuth_hubener]

Why you want a war, Galileo?

[surf]

the axis wins on a Messi hat trick (Ronaldo scores a brace)

[Carson]

Id say the teams are the Banks, and their Victims. Everything else is a facade to maintain the illusion that wars, govts, and central banks are even necessary.

That sounds about right.

I'm thinking there are only a few countries left that still aren't under the global network of central banks. As the wars on them are winding up the civil unrest is rising because of the over spending caused by the networks desire to dominate everything. The worlds economy, moral values, and everything else we value, is being stripped down to something unrecognizable and worth less.

[UWDude]

America will get embroiled in race war. It will start as low level drug violence, that will ratchet up as gun laws are passed. The gangs will become the rulers of the cities, and white people will demand protection, and go vigilante/paramilitary.'
This will cause the race divide and tensions between Latinos and Whites to exacerbate.
In essence, Southwest America and Texas will be a drain on American International Power and production.
The emerging white power movement will disenfranchise the blacks of the south, and soon the south too will become a violent haven of "sectarian violence". Neither of these areas will be conducive to business, and the poverty will only drive more to militias that can feed the hopeless youth.

"America" will try to team up with Sunni Arab regimes against Iran. Some will work with America, some will not. They will be enough to give America a foothold, but not much else. Iraq and Afghanistan, however, will definitely become failures.

China and Russia will not be involved in the wars. They will provide intelligence, propaganda, and cyber attack assistance to the enemies of the United States, but keep their hands clean. China will take Taiwan through plebiscite. They will only need a vote victory once, and when Taiwan falls with it's big economic brother America, its people will demand the wealth of china, and turn on the US.

North Korea and South Korea will not go to war. They will continue attempts at reunification, and America will again come out looking like the enemy trying to stop reunification. The youth will be energized and will hope, like the Germans did, for reunification of their country. Nationalistic pride will trump foreign intervention, and Korea will unite as a socialist state, especially when the United States starts trying to use Japan to put pressure on South Korea not to unite with the North.

The war with Iran will not even start for another 6 - 10 years. First will be airstrikes to knock out Iran's infrastructure and military capabilities, then a slow squeeze of sanctions. This will have the blessing of many Sunni countries. The wildcard is if Iran does get a nuclear weapon. If it does, Iran can start fortifying it's Shiites In Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and Lebanon. Once they have a nuke, they are pretty much protected from nuclear attack, which gives them way more leeway in their military foreign policy. The joker is that many Sunni governments will be rendered completely ineffective by their own populations for their overt support of the United states and Israel. These problems will range everywhere from protest, to riots, to bombings, assassinations, and ultimately a series of civil wars.

So it will be more like this:
Sunni:
USA
NATO
Israel
Most Sunni gulf governments (Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia)

Shiite:
Iran
Southern Iraq
Northern (Kurdish) Iraq (to fight NATO member Turkey)
Central Iraq will be largely neutral.
Afghanistan
Lebanon

With Intelligence and cyber support from:
North African Sunni governmetns, (Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, etc), China and Russia

With great interference from:
Latin American underground materiel support to the Latinos, against the wishes of their governments.

This is the great Soviet Feint. It is Russia's great hope to get America embroiled in a war with the middle east. Once America (imperialist enemy #1) and Islam (theocratic enemy and historical enemy to expansion #1) start fighting each other, Russia just waits and picks up the pieces at the end. Russia knows that Iran is by far the weaker, that is why Russia and China will support them enough to keep the conflict hot as long as possible.

Africa will be a bloodbath all its own. It is far too complicated to declare any winners or losers, although Islam will spread rapidly in the chaos, as the people seek law and order only the likes of the taleban can bring. African wars will be corporate proxy, with Chinese and American mineral companies paying African armies to fight each other for control. Of course, China wins these, because they have all the money they need, or should I say wealth, as china produces things Africans will want, like tractors, metals, batteries, and solar plants, whilst America will produce consulting companies, 401K plans and amazing advertising campaigns for movies and music.

Most of the EU will pull out early, because their own Muslim populations will become too unruly due to their interference in their respective homelands. this will leave the United States, Israel, and some of the oil gulf states as far as nationalist wars go where armies and air forces actually clash.

Pakistan and India will clash again over Kashmir, but will only be doing so because their handlers are too busy with other things.


The winners will ultimately be the EU, China and Russia. China and Russia's economies will be booming by 2035. EU will catch up by about 2045, while America and Mexico will become more and more like each other each day.

[BlackTerrel]

Y'all are getting excited for something I've seen predicted since the first day I started posting here.

Everytime there is a news story out of somewhere I see a post "aha WW3 coming".

Live your life and stop fear mongering for a day.

[UWDude]

Y'all are getting excited for something I've seen predicted since the first day I started posting here.
Everytime there is a news story out of somewhere I see a post "aha WW3 coming".
Live your life and stop fear mongering for a day.

Umm... do you have any idea what I do with my life?

[BlackTerrel]

Umm... do you have any idea what I do with my life?

WWIII Fantasy Football?

[kcchiefs6465]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?400367-2013-H.R.-75-To-End-Membership-of-the-United-States-in-the-United-Nations

Very pertinent discussion if we are entertaining the WWIII scenario.

[kcchiefs6465]

WWIII Fantasy Football?
How many points do you get for an assassinated scientist?

[UWDude]

WWIII Fantasy Football?

Oh hey!
Looks like you have no idea!
If you have no idea, how about you not try to tell me how I should be living it based on your silly assumptions?
MMM kay?

[S.Shorland]

The muslim 'mehdi' appears and unifies the muslim countries around Israel (including Turkey).On our side will be the powerful European countries and presumably America.We win and throw him into the pit (although his army is destroyed by the word of Jesus).

[John F Kennedy III]

Id say the teams are the Banks, and their Victims. Everything else is a facade to maintain the illusion that wars, govts, and central banks are even necessary.

/thread

[acptulsa]

Oh, come on, Terrell. These guys aren't playing fantasy football. They're playing fantasy Risk.

http://0.tqn.com/d/boardgames/1/6/E/t/risk_1959.jpg


Id say the teams are the Banks, and their Victims. Everything else is a facade to maintain the illusion that wars, govts, and central banks are even necessary.

This. No hot World Wars in the nuclear age. Too risky. The only way nuclear war is profitable is if it's a cold war, not a hot war. So, the only way WWIII happens is if We, the People of the world decide the Rothschilds have it all and we want a crumb or two. This isn't a nuclear war, it isn't a conventional war, it isn't even a conventional guerilla war. This is something new. Before the telephone, radio and the 'net, it was inconceivable.

Not any more. Ask not why the Federal Government is actively militarizing all the local police forces near you. They are militarizing the police for thee. But don't feel singled out. Unless you're too old to be considered a Baby Boomer, the CIA has been fomenting unrest, and then sending in 'military advisors' since before you were born.

[TER]

There's no way Turkey will be neutral given their history and location. I would place them in the 'allies' category

[Confederate]

There's no way Turkey will be neutral given their history and location. I would place them in the 'allies' category

The Arabs and Kurds will be more than happy to fight the Turks.

Also, I can't see many Arab states allying with Iran, particularly Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Arabs.

If there is a WWIII it won't be Side A vs Side B, but rather there will be multiple sides, sort of like the Balkan Wars.

[TER]

The Arabs and Kurds will be more than happy to fight the Turks.

Also, I can't see many Arab states allying with Iran, particularly Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Arabs.

If there is a WWIII it won't be Side A vs Side B, but rather there will be multiple sides, sort of like the Balkan Wars.

This is probably true in the beginning, but I'm guessing that as the multiple conflicts become coalesced into a world war, there will begin to emerge two major fronts.

[Confederate]

There's no way Turkey will be neutral given their history and location. I would place them in the 'allies' category

The Arabs and Kurds will be more than happy to fight the Turks.

Also, I can't see many Arab states allying with Iran, particularly Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Arabs.

If there is a WWIII it won't be Side A vs Side B, but rather there will be multiple sides, sort of like the Balkan Wars.

[pcosmar]

No winner.

Out of the destruction will come one who will promise peace. I expect he will make some announcement from the smoking remains of Jerusalem.

He will remain till Christ returns.

[acptulsa]

No winner.

Out of the destruction will come one who will promise peace. I expect he will make some announcement from the smoking remains of Jerusalem.

He will remain till Christ returns.

And there we find the bottom line.

[otherone]

Hey fellas....throw this into the equation: . Over the next two decades, as many as 40 million young Chinese men won't be able to marry, settle down and start families. There won't be enough wives to go around.
That's a lot of dangerous testosterone that the People's Republic needs to divert....

[UWDude]

Hey fellas....throw this into the equation: . Over the next two decades, as many as 40 million young Chinese men won't be able to marry, settle down and start families. There won't be enough wives to go around.
That's a lot of dangerous testosterone that the People's Republic needs to divert....

That's what World of Warcraft is for.

[Confederate]

Hey fellas....throw this into the equation: . Over the next two decades, as many as 40 million young Chinese men won't be able to marry, settle down and start families. There won't be enough wives to go around.
That's a lot of dangerous testosterone that the People's Republic needs to divert....

They'll probably develop some sort of gay-virus to take care of that.

[BlackTerrel]

Oh hey!
Looks like you have no idea!
If you have no idea, how about you not try to tell me how I should be living it based on your silly assumptions?
MMM kay?

I wasn't targeting you. I think the constant fear mongering over WWIII which has been going on since I started here isn't healthy. You want to do it - God bless.

[pcosmar]

I think the constant fear mongering over WWIII which has been going on since I started here isn't healthy. .

The path to WWIII was laid out long before you were born. Written and recorded.
Events are following that path.

If you wish to keep your head in the sand, that is your choice.
Be aware,,you are showing your ass.

http://oilersnation.com/uploads/Image/head_in_the_sand-461x307.jpg

[UWDude]

I wasn't targeting you. I think the constant fear mongering over WWIII which has been going on since I started here isn't healthy. You want to do it - God bless.

You have no idea what others are doing with their lives either. So your directive to them to "get a life" was just a veiled insult, and unnecessary.

[cbrons]

WW3 = government, domestic and international against the 3-4% of american citizens who will not be their slaves willingly.

[Pericles]

If there is a WWIII it won't be Side A vs Side B, but rather there will be multiple sides, sort of like the Balkan Wars.

Correct - there is a great deal of potential conflict about. As example, if one takes China as a focus, China has conflicts underway with India over Tibet, Japan over potential oil in the South China Sea, Taiwan independence, and an old skirmish with Russia over the Mongolian border with Siberia.

Extrapolate from there as Taiwan and Japan have ties with the US .... India has ties with Russia. India also has conflict with Pakistan, and the Russians don't like aggressive Islam, and so on.

[twomp]

lol this thread delivers!

[otherone]

They'll probably develop some sort of gay-virus to take care of that.

so....homosexuality isn't a choice? :D

[pcosmar]

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Teams?
There are those trying to start it, and those trying to prevent(or delay) it.

[Confederate]

so....homosexuality isn't a choice? :D

Homosexual attraction probably not...homosexual behavior definitely is.

I'm sure a virus could be created that makes people homosexuals, though.

[paulbot24]

Homosexual attraction probably not...homosexual behavior definitely is.

I'm sure a virus could be created that makes people homosexuals, though.

Well "they" have already created one that has decimated homosexuals and the Blacks very well. Okay, that is my speculation, but if you read about the two scientists that are credited with discovering and isolating HIV, it does make you wonder.....

[truelies]

A 3-way confrontation- Oceania, East Asia, Eurasia

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

The U.S. would be part of the axis. The U.S. people would be fighting against it

[DamianTV]

The world has suffered from a Bankster Coup De Taut.

Since Banks profit from wars, they will pit brother against brother, city against city, side against side, and Nation against Nation to utilize the most devestating weapon in their arsenal; Debt. Some countries might align with other countries, some countries might collapse into Civil War, but make no mistake, the real winners of a Bankster created war will be none other than the Banksters themselves.

[helmuth_hubener]

What are the teams for WWIII?
What if they had a war and no one came? I, for one, will not be participating in any World War. I will not be on any "team". Any "teams" will have nothing to do with me. I will not be their ally, nor soldier, nor sympathizer. Anyone fighting a war is no friend of mine.

Furthermore, obviously this has escaped your notice, Galileo, but the United States gov't is the most aggressive, belligerent, obnoxious, war-crazed state on Earth right now, and the only one with serious aspirations of world domination -- aspirations already in large part achieved. Any world-wide war will be instigated by this globe-spanning globe-trotting state. They will be the most evil of all the evil parties participating in any such war. You seem to consider these mass-murdering monsters "your team". I don't. Your team is sick, Galileo. It's an abomination. That's why I, with all other lovers of liberty, will keep working to destroy it.

[heavenlyboy34]

Correct - there is a great deal of potential conflict about. As example, if one takes China as a focus, China has conflicts underway with India over Tibet, Japan over potential oil in the South China Sea, Taiwan independence, and an old skirmish with Russia over the Mongolian border with Siberia.

Extrapolate from there as Taiwan and Japan have ties with the US .... India has ties with Russia. India also has conflict with Pakistan, and the Russians don't like aggressive Islam, and so on.
And Tuva (aka Tannu Tuva). That's been a source of much strife in the region for 100+ years at least.

[heavenlyboy34]

What if they had a war and no one came? I, for one, will not be participating in any World War. I will not be on any "team". Any "teams" will have nothing to do with me. I will not be their ally, nor soldier, nor sympathizer. Anyone fighting a war is no friend of mine.

Furthermore, obviously this has escaped your notice, Galileo, but the United States gov't is the most aggressive, belligerent, obnoxious, war-crazed state on Earth right now, and the only one with serious aspirations of world domination -- aspirations already in large part achieved. Any world-wide war will be instigated by this globe-spanning globe-trotting state. They will be the most evil of all the evil parties participating in any such war. You seem to consider these mass-murdering monsters "your team". I don't. Your team is sick, Galileo. It's an abomination. That's why I, with all other lovers of liberty, will keep working to destroy it. +mega rep

[Pericles]

What if they had a war and no one came? I, for one, will not be participating in any World War. I will not be on any "team". Any "teams" will have nothing to do with me. I will not be their ally, nor soldier, nor sympathizer. Anyone fighting a war is no friend of mine.

Furthermore, obviously this has escaped your notice, Galileo, but the United States gov't is the most aggressive, belligerent, obnoxious, war-crazed state on Earth right now, and the only one with serious aspirations of world domination -- aspirations already in large part achieved. Any world-wide war will be instigated by this globe-spanning globe-trotting state. They will be the most evil of all the evil parties participating in any such war. You seem to consider these mass-murdering monsters "your team". I don't. Your team is sick, Galileo. It's an abomination. That's why I, with all other lovers of liberty, will keep working to destroy it.

What if they had a war, and only one side showed up?

[John F Kennedy III]

The teams are the Global Elite.

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

WW3 will be us versus everybody else.

[helmuth_hubener]

What if they had a war, and only one side showed up? Then that side, the one that "showed up," the one that dreamed of fighting an organized conflict against a conventional opponent, would lose horribly.

Their fists would punch at air as they are eaten alive by a million tiny insects.

[Original_Intent]

Teams?
There are those trying to start it, and those trying to prevent(or delay) it.

I appreciate the quote you provided, and am constantly amazed at how much you and I are on the same page.


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to pcosmar again.

[Original_Intent]

A 3-way confrontation- Oceania, East Asia, Eurasia

It's almost like the Trilateral Commission had a purpose....

[brooks009]

USA would come out on top and expand its empire. We would lose many liberty's in the process. Leads to world government.

[TER]

"The issue which has swept down the centuries
and which will have to be fought sooner or later
is the people versus the banks."

- Lord Acton (1834-1902)

[helmuth_hubener]

"The issue which has swept down the centuries
and which will have to be fought sooner or later
is the people versus the banks."

- Lord Acton (1834-1902) Yes (the fractional reserve banks. Honest banks are fine). And the effective way to fight them is through self-improvement, education, networking, non-cooperation, resistance, dissent, building alternative institutions, etc. You fight them with culture and with information. You don't fight them with warfare. War will back-fire. War is the enemy's home turf. They're experts at war. No, don't fight a war. Stay home. Fortify yourself. Build a tribe with your neighbors and friends.

Make them bring the fight to you. Make it on your turf, on your terms. They are huge, lumbering, and slow. You are small, slippery, and invisible. They want to make the fight a contest of violence. You want to make it impossible, or very expensive, for them to use violence against you. Long-term, the real fight is that of ideas. Fight the battle of ideas! We are winning! We need your help.

[Galileo Galilei]

Why you want a war, Galileo?

huh?

[heavenlyboy34]

Yes (the fractional reserve banks. Honest banks are fine). And the effective way to fight them is through self-improvement, education, networking, non-cooperation, resistance, dissent, building alternative institutions, etc. You fight them with culture and with information. You don't fight them with warfare. War will back-fire. War is the enemy's home turf. They're experts at war. No, don't fight a war. Stay home. Fortify yourself. Build a tribe with your neighbors and friends.

Make them bring the fight to you. Make it on your turf, on your terms. They are huge, lumbering, and slow. You are small, slippery, and invisible. They want to make the fight a contest of violence. You want to make it impossible, or very expensive, for them to use violence against you. Long-term, the real fight is that of ideas. Fight the battle of ideas! We are winning! We need your help.
FRB isn't necessarily bad-but it is dishonest if the customer isn't informed about it up front. Most people just assume that they have a deposit in their name somewhere in the vault. If a saving institution were to stop using FRB, it would be essentially a big safe deposit box instead of a bank. Such a place couldn't make loans unless they had a massive amount of their own capital to lend.