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Confederate
01-06-2013, 03:20 PM
Texas Secession Movement Gains Traction
Fox News 1/6/2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENjgbDpxVWc
http://youtu.be/ENjgbDpxVWc

TheTexan
01-06-2013, 03:27 PM
Damn right

VoluntaryAmerican
01-06-2013, 03:29 PM
I'd move to TX.

TheTexan
01-06-2013, 03:31 PM
When the SHTF, Texas is going to be where the party's at

Origanalist
01-06-2013, 03:31 PM
Lone Star State. :)

tod evans
01-06-2013, 03:39 PM
Don't fuck with Texas.

kathy88
01-06-2013, 03:43 PM
I've been hankering for a warmer climate.

acptulsa
01-06-2013, 03:47 PM
One the one hand, I and many others in Oklahoma would love to leave this bloodsucking fedgov that steals money from this relatively poor state and gives it to wealthier states with more voters. What's more, the state of agriculture in North America would improve if we did. So we might join. And, yes, despite the natural antithapies, Texas would have us.

On the other hand, the idea of Rick Perry as President is enough to give anyone pause...

NoOneButPaul
01-06-2013, 03:47 PM
When the SHTF, Texas is going to be where the party's at

It's really between Nevada, New Hampshire, and Texas ain't it?

acptulsa
01-06-2013, 03:54 PM
It's really between Nevada, New Hampshire, and Texas ain't it?

There's one hell of a lot between Nevada, New Hampshire and Texas. One hell of a lot.

No love for Iowa? Look at that state GOP. Good stuff.

If Texas gets seriously serious about this, the whole of the Great Plains could go with it, and no small portion of the Rockies. Gary Johnson's New Mexico? You bet. Colorado? Will the feds be jacking with them over weed? Wyoming? Try to stop them. Montana? Did they not reinvent the Tea Party? Attract either Utah, Arizona or Idaho and that's more than enough to reconnect Nevada and Texas into one entity.

Hell, Illinois could join in just so it can secede from freaking Chicago.

Just wait until the Northeast and the West Coast are paying tariffs on food from the Breadbasket of the World. You thought Sandy did some damage to New Jersey...

oyarde
01-06-2013, 04:00 PM
Right now , I will be happy to stick with my state with a Bn. of militia for ea county.

acptulsa
01-06-2013, 04:08 PM
Make no mistake, there's a reason the powers that be have been trying hard to nip secession talk right in the bud. Texas' constitution gives it the right to secede. Furthermore, there's precedent for it. The only reason Texas didn't stay out last time they left is because their economy wasn't diversified enough to survive economically. This time, we have a host of states that have been screwed by Washington's overreach and the tyranny of the majority.

Lone star state? Don't count on it. Try the United States of Texas.

tod evans
01-06-2013, 04:09 PM
Count me in.

pcosmar
01-06-2013, 04:18 PM
Watching to see who tries it. Could it be Texas? maybe

but
Texas Nationalist Movement??
:confused:

I'll watch from over here..

Confederate
01-06-2013, 04:36 PM
Watching to see who tries it. Could it be Texas? maybe

but
Texas Nationalist Movement??
:confused:

I'll watch from over here..

Yes...they are nationalists...they want Texas to be a nation...

Anti Federalist
01-06-2013, 05:57 PM
Fuck 'em and good riddance.

(I hate a bunch of Texas)

Anti Federalist
01-06-2013, 05:58 PM
Hey, what do you know, 39,000th post ^^^^

Pisces
01-06-2013, 05:58 PM
Fuck 'em and good riddance.

(I hate a bunch of Texas)

Why?

Anti Federalist
01-06-2013, 06:06 PM
Why?

Rude, self aggrandizing, self promoting, holier than thou, jerks.

The last fist fight I got into was in Texas.

The last time I got arrested was in Texas.

The last fellow to point a gun at me was in Texas.

The closest I ever came to getting killed in a car crash was in Texas, no fault of mine.

The last time I was dragged out of my car and searched by cops was in Texas.

Not to mention the fact that it is hotter than the hinges of hell there in the summertime.

If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent Texas out.

"But, other than that Mrs. Kennedy, how was your trip to Dallas?"

Pisces
01-06-2013, 06:09 PM
Rude, self aggrandizing, self promoting, holier than thou, jerks.

The last fist fight I got into was in Texas.

The last time I got arrested was in Texas.

The last fellow to point a gun at me was in Texas.

The closest I ever came to getting killed in a car crash was in Texas, no fault of mine.

The last time I was dragged out of my car and searched by cops was in Texas.

Not to mention the fact that it is hotter than the hinges of hell there in the summertime.

If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent Texas out.

"But, other than that Mrs. Kennedy, how was your trip to Dallas?"

If I had those experiences, I'd probably hate Texas too. But we're not all that like that.

TheTexan
01-06-2013, 06:10 PM
Rude, self aggrandizing, self promoting, holier than thou, jerks.

Good traits to have when seeking secession. NH I don't think has the balls to secede. For what its worth.

Anti Federalist
01-06-2013, 06:11 PM
Now, before everybody jumps down my throat and freaks out, all of the above is tongue-in-cheek ribbing.

I have nothing but love for the great people in Texas (Ron Paul and Alex Jones, c'mon...), including the folks here.

But those things did happen to me, and my relationship with the state of Tex-ass is most certainly of a "love-hate" variety.

Anti Federalist
01-06-2013, 06:14 PM
Good traits to have when seeking secession. NH I don't think has the balls to secede. For what its worth.

Probably not, but then, I don't think any state does.

Especially one as firmly wedded to the warfare state as Texas is.

Until we take over and drag a state to secession, kicking and screaming, that is.

TheTexan
01-06-2013, 06:25 PM
Especially one as firmly wedded to the warfare state as Texas is.

Who do Texans claim to hate more? Obama? Or Muslims? It's a close call I think.

In any case, we can self fund our own wars easily. I'm sure Lockheed Martin would continue to be more than happy to keep their factories running.

Pisces
01-06-2013, 06:26 PM
Probably not, but then, I don't think any state does.

Especially one as firmly wedded to the warfare state as Texas is.

Until we take over and drag a state to secession, kicking and screaming, that is.

Texas politicians generally have supported the warfare state, but Texas is not really economically dependant on military spending like many smaller states are. If people start realizing that the warfare state doesn't have their best interests at heart, public opinion could easily change.

I don't think a majority here will support secession unless things really get bad. I think it would seem too radical right now to the low info voters. Plus, we have a growing number of liberal transplants here from other states, especially in the big cities.

TheTexan
01-06-2013, 06:28 PM
but Texas is not really economically dependant on military spending like many smaller states are.

Fort Worth may disagree with you there.

But, as I mentioned, I'm sure their factories could keep running. Maybe with a different enemy in mind, though.

Carlybee
01-06-2013, 06:31 PM
Texas is getting bluer and bluer all the time thanks to the fact that it is becoming a majority hispanic...unfortunately a lot of hispanics still lean left. The movement will not have legs. Not only that but the Republicans in power here are mostly the neocon variety and they love the status quo just as much as the Democrats. The old guard will consider any move to secede as unpatriotic. The Texas Nationalist movement will be painted as a radical fringe group and the sheep will buy into it. JMO as a lifelong Texan if this was actually introduced you would find out real quick just how non-independent Texas really is...ie, it would involve militaristic action to break with the US government.

Pisces
01-06-2013, 06:34 PM
Fort Worth may disagree with you there.

But, as I mentioned, I'm sure their factories could keep running. Maybe with a different enemy in mind, though.

There may be individual cities that benefit from military spending, but the state as a whole isn't dependant on it. Energy and agriculture are probably more important to state's economy as a whole.

TheTexan
01-06-2013, 06:36 PM
I don't think a majority here will support secession unless things really get bad. I think it would seem too radical right now to the low info voters. Plus, we have a growing number of liberal transplants here from other states, especially in the big cities.

Things will get really bad. Almost certainly before Obama's term is over. I can definitely see Texans wanting to blame Obama for it (however misguided that may be), and demanding secession.

Also remember, Texas is a donor state. We give more money to the FedGov than we get back in return. As far as I'm concerned, Texas has zero (federal) debt obligation in the event of a secession. In the case of the coming debt crisis, secession will be a relatively expedient, easy solution. Much easier to swallow than telling Texans they have to help pay back the debt.

acptulsa
01-07-2013, 11:56 AM
But those things did happen to me, and my relationship with the state of Tex-ass is most certainly of a "love-hate" variety.

Everybody's is. The wooded hills of east Texas (Paris, Athens), the near-desert of west Texas, the hill country around Austin, the billiard-table flat panhandle, the self-styled sophistication and utter liberalness of Austin, the strutting of Dallas, there's plenty to love and plenty to hate. Go up north of Amarillo right now, and you can even freeze to death.

There's enough Defense Department stuff in Texas to rile up the District of Calamity in the event of secession. But I think the fact that the vast majority of our imported oil comes into Texas City and gets refined there will move Washington to action even quicker. I doubt it's an accident that a few presidents have claimed to hail from Texas (and LBJ actually did), and that Texas is in other ways encouraged to be patriotic enough to shed an occasional tear for the old U.S. of A. But Texas is a donor state, as are most of the states on the Great Plains. Texas does feel the pinch as Washington institutes ever more insane farm policies. The Texas secession movement has been around a long time, but it's still getting stronger.

I wonder how many Texans realize that things have changed enough that other states in the region, states that once rolled their eyes condescendingly at the secession talk, would now seriously consider joining up?

jbauer
01-07-2013, 12:16 PM
Now, before everybody jumps down my throat and freaks out, all of the above is tongue-in-cheek ribbing.

I have nothing but love for the great people in Texas (Ron Paul and Alex Jones, c'mon...), including the folks here.

But those things did happen to me, and my relationship with the state of Tex-ass is most certainly of a "love-hate" variety.

Aren't you forgetting Chuck Norris!!!! (not sure if he's actually from Tx) But Walker, Texas Ranger kicked some mighty good stuff in its day!!!

pcosmar
01-07-2013, 12:25 PM
Secession,, or talk of secession, does not bother me.

trading Federal Socialism for National Socialism does not strike me as a win.

acptulsa
01-07-2013, 12:32 PM
Secession,, or talk of secession, does not bother me.

trading Federal Socialism for National Socialism does not strike me as a win.

Now you are underestimating Texas, and underestimating all the Great Plains and Rocky Mountain states that might be tempted to join Texas. This end of the nation doesn't resent Washington so much because it leaves us alone.

Origanalist
01-07-2013, 12:42 PM
Now you are underestimating Texas, and underestimating all the Great Plains and Rocky Mountain states that might be tempted to join Texas. This end of the nation doesn't resent Washington so much because it leaves us alone.

I have to agree, the majority of people who are willing - vehemently want to secede aren't thinking of the greater glory of Texas in a National Socialistic manner and the few shit for brains idiots that undoubtedly are will be "discouraged" in a hurry.

jclay2
01-07-2013, 01:02 PM
My only qualm with Texas (coming from a northern climate in the tyrrany of illinois) are the spiders, centipedes, scorpians, and snakes. Hire a good, exterminator and I am there.

Origanalist
01-07-2013, 01:05 PM
My only qualm with Texas (coming from a northern climate in the tyrrany of illinois) are the spiders, centipedes, scorpians, and snakes. Hire a good, exterminator and I am there.

Jus' different bugs my freind. It happens whenever you travel.

VIDEODROME
01-07-2013, 01:09 PM
Texas is to hot. If I lived there I'd have to hide in the air conditioning.

Todd
01-07-2013, 01:12 PM
Will the Cowboys have to leave the NFL?


I'm all for it. :D

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
01-07-2013, 01:21 PM
Fuck 'em and good riddance.

(I hate a bunch of Texas)

At least you said a bunch of Texas as one can't possibly in their lifetime visit the whole region of Texas. Therefore, it isn't possible to hate Texas. What is amazing about Texas, being as I was born here, is how every city is fairly equal in their sovereign identities. I guess the most enviable city is Dallas, but there is greater wealth in Austin. Houston has the most wealth during its boom times as it is the energy capital of the world. El Paso thinks of itself as closer to the west than as a part of Texas as it is a closer drive for them to go a California beach.
I actually admire your envying of our great state. That means you must hold your slobber of a state to be worth something. Even a rabid old hound dog is worth shooting.

Origanalist
01-07-2013, 01:25 PM
Will the Cowboys have to leave the NFL?


I'm all for it. :D

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puppetmaster
01-07-2013, 01:31 PM
Hell I dated some hot girls from Texas....sweet as candy too. I would go and farm. I will keep my Nevada digs as well for the hot days. We would need to casturate the police there as they are douche bags.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
01-07-2013, 01:45 PM
Hell I dated some hot girls from Texas....sweet as candy too. I would go and farm. I will keep my Nevada does as well for the hot days. We would need to casturate the police there as they are douche bags.

When casturating down here, we spell it the same.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
01-07-2013, 01:57 PM
Aren't you forgetting Chuck Norris!!!! (not sure if he's actually from Tx) But Walker, Texas Ranger kicked some mighty good stuff in its day!!!

The Texas Rangers were formed not as a police force, but as the national militia. So, they are being misused today. In other words, while the Texas military was created to fight the invading Mexico and to protect our new government, the Texas Rangers were created at the same time to protect Texas settlers / citizens from the Comanche Indians. When the ATFC (Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Cults) were invading the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas, the Texas Rangers should have confronted them. This shows how screwed up even Texas is. We have too many corrupt lawyers just like any other state. The leaders of Texas are pig crap compared to our Texas founders. We had two great leaders in Sam Houston and Jack Hayes. Most don't know about the latter Texas Ranger Captain and his exploits. His only drawback was how he moved to California after the war with Mexico to help design the city of Oakland as a Civil engineer.
Man we have a great state!

puppetmaster
01-07-2013, 02:07 PM
When casturating down here, we spell it the same. OK I am tired.....I don't get it.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
01-07-2013, 02:39 PM
OK I am tired.....I don't get it.

Look, we just need to think this out. First off, the endeavor of law is itself an irrational process.

Therefore, lawyers are irrational!

You see, we accept things as rational because we have always had this occult belief that lawyers themselves are rational accepting this as the case because of the way they can bully us around and kick our asses.
Okay, so if lawyers are irrational and they are the ones who deem all other rational expertise as official,

Then all official expertise should be considered irrational!

and

Conspiracies should be accepted as phenomena that actually do happen!

and

Walter Cronkite never read every book in the world so quit believing the garbage the media passes off as true news!

Did this energize you any?