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coastie
01-04-2013, 07:23 AM
***MODS FIX MY TITLE PLEASE*** Supposed to say Marine, not arine.


MARINE Veteran who served 8 yrs in Iraq has been unlawfully convicted to 30 yrs in prison!

A gag order was placed over Sgt Charles Dyer, and he was told he would be arrested if he spoke out about the events that took place during his first trial in Stephens County Oklahoma!

This former Marine was targeted by the FBI due to his outspoken voice and his Constitutional speeches he was giving at many Tea party / Patriot Events across the country.

Charles Dyer also known as July 4 Patriot or J4P, has a gift of "speech." and was becoming very popular within the Patriot / Tea Party Community. Sgt. Dyer also grew a following online because of his YouTube Channel.

Sgt Charles Dyer was not aware of how he was targeted by the FBI until he was charged with a crime he did not commit.

Not long after this all began, was it becoming more clear to Charles that this was a intentional attempt to silence him and shut him down. A gag order was placed on him.

Charles Dyer was offered a "deal" by FBI...

FBI Agent Gene Pool told Sgt. Dyer that if he would "work" for the FBI for 2 yrs and help the FBI infiltrate the Patriot/Tea Parties/Militia Community, then all these criminal charges that were pending against him would "disappear."

FBI Agent Gene Pool handed Sgt. Dyer a list of objectives to review, but Sgt. Dyer looked at Agent Pool, and told him, "no thank you."

Read More:

http://www.causes.com/causes/806177-marine-was-given-a-gag-order-now-is-serving-30-yrs-in-prison/actions/1714705

tangent4ronpaul
01-04-2013, 07:48 AM
Never heard of him.

That he starts the YouTube saying who he is "with the American Resistance Movement", gives me pause. That seems like a bit more than the "Patriot / Tea Party Community". Oh, here, a bit further down: "Patriot/Tea Parties/Militia Community".

The militia movement is already heavily infiltrated and has been for years.

"Patriot" is a euphemism for Militia, Just as "Progressive" is a euphemism for Socialist/Communist.

There is also this:

"I will be uploading some of the court docs for anyone to take a look at!
This will show the proof that his ex wife and the FEDS have set this man up!"

"to take up arms against tyranny is our duty". (Quoting TJ)

"join with us and take up arms"...

Umm, yeah, I think there is a bit more going on here than appears on the surface.

And it never mentions what he was charged with .. :confused:

Naw - cant see a reason in the world the Feds would be interested in this guy... :rolleyes:


-t

TonySutton
01-04-2013, 08:27 AM
Search on his name and you will see a lot of conflicting reports concerning him.

tangent4ronpaul
01-04-2013, 08:39 AM
Interesting that he doesn't have a Wikipedia entry.

Was wondering about some of the footage in the YouTube clip, but according to Google Images, he's apparently the one providing military training, presumably to civilians.

-t

talkingpointes
01-04-2013, 09:18 AM
I remember this guy. July4thpatriot ? They tried to get him on molesting his daughter if I remember correctly, then went on a manhunt to find him for over a month. Correct?

pcosmar
01-04-2013, 10:02 AM
Never heard of him.



july4patriot


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3mghRiZB3w&list=UUcrC1I7XrqZWdfv_-9rmYWw&index=23

acptulsa
01-04-2013, 11:52 AM
Stephens County is the middle of nowhere, deep in the hills, closer to Wichita Falls, TX than any other city of any size. More than half of the less than 45,000 population lives in the county seat, Duncan. Interestingly, Duncan is where Halliburton Energy was founded, and as recently as six or seven years ago Halliburton stockholders' meetings were still held there.

There is a thread on him in this site somewhere; I remember seeing it. Here are some articles from the Duncan Banner, from newest to oldest:

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x946180381/Freeman-pleads-guilty-to-felony-arson-charge

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x1968184171/Dyer-gets-30-year-sentence

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x1774444689/Dyer-found-guilty-gets-30-years

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x2086600776/Alleged-victim-in-Dyer-case-testifies

http://duncanbanner.com/breaking-news/x431308637/Mistrials-declared-in-Dyer-Balthrop-cases

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x975855198/Dyer-to-remain-in-jail-until-retrial-resumes

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x890682873/Unanswered-question-How-did-fugitive-Dyer-make-his-way-to-Texas

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x1699200389/Arson-investigation-continues-second-arrest-made

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x670929979/Fugitive-s-mom-reels-from-events

acptulsa
01-04-2013, 12:03 PM
http://duncanbanner.com/local/x1113180174/Arrest-made-in-alleged-incident-involving-Dyer

These are from the trial that ended in a hung jury:

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x1250116678/A-M-Update-Dyer-takes-the-stand

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x641330062/Dyer-trial-continues

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x58989122/Dyer-trial-continues

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x1149634924/Jury-trials-begin

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x1527082576/DA-pursues-stolen-weapons-charge-against-Dyer

acptulsa
01-04-2013, 12:20 PM
This one mentions federal action:

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x1612539786/Dyer-released

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x993498371/Dyer-found-not-guilty

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x1621218456/Dyers-side-speaks

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x1566848876/Rape-charges-formalized-against-Dyer

http://duncanbanner.com/local/x937838844/Former-Marine-arrested-on-rape-charges

And something interesting from before all of that:

http://duncanbanner.com/x2138919893/Serving-proudly

bwlibertyman
01-05-2013, 10:02 AM
This is all pretty shady. There should be no problem with a man saying look our government is doing some really bad things and we should pick up arms and prepare for the day when the government turns on the people (if it hasn't already). To say that this man should be illegally framed and put in jail because of the things he said and the training actions that he took is crazy. This is supposed to be a country where freedom reigns. The FBI wanted to shut this guy up. It's plain and simple and that's what happened. It was wrong.

ninepointfive
01-05-2013, 10:41 AM
I was wondering about what happened to him - you can't really find any new information except for this.

30 years? =(

BlackTerrel
01-05-2013, 12:33 PM
This article is very hard to follow. What was he charged with? What did he actually do? What did he say that they wanted to silence?


MARINE Veteran who served 8 yrs in Iraq has been unlawfully convicted to 30 yrs in prison!....A gag order was placed over Sgt Charles Dyer, and he was told he would be arrested if he spoke out about the events that took place during his first trial in Stephens County Oklahoma!

Which is it? Was he convicted for 30 years or was he told he would be arrested if he spoke out? Why doesn't he speak out now if he is arrested?


This former Marine was targeted by the FBI due to his outspoken voice and his Constitutional speeches he was giving at many Tea party / Patriot Events across the country.

I hate to be a dick but this article is riddled with poor English. What were his outspoken views?


OSBI was part of this investigation and has kept the investigation that helps prove the innocence of Sgt. Dyer hidden.

If you want to be taken seriously use correct English and make a coherent statement. This article is a bunch of one liners thrown together. What is this guy charged with? And what is the evidence that he is innocent?


Sgt. Charles Dyer's mother Janet Dyer has been threatened that if she did not cooperate with the FBI that they would make her son go away for up to 40 yrs!...

...The FBI and Stephens County Oklahoma have railroaded Sgt. Charles Dyer, and now has convicted him to prison for 30 yrs!

So they told her if she didn't cooperate they would sentence him to 40 years. Then they sentenced him to 30 years. So did she cooperate? How so? If he was arrested for speech then what sort of cooperation would they expect from his mother?


The system failed Sgt. Charles Dyer aka July 4 Patriot

PLEASE help save this man’s life!

DEMAND THE GOVERNOR TO STEP IN AND GET INVOLVED BY HOLDING THESE PUBLIC SERVANTS ACCOUNTABLE.

Who should I hold accountable? What was he charged with? Who set him up? What is the evidence that he didn't do it?

This article contains no information at all.

God bless.

presence
01-05-2013, 12:48 PM
coastie, fyi, by clicking "go advanced" while editing you have a short window in which to edit your own title.

coastie
01-05-2013, 01:01 PM
coastie, fyi, by clicking "go advanced" while editing you have a short window in which to edit your own title.

Yeah, I posted this as I was literally falling into one of the worst migraines I've ever had in my life, to say I wasn't thinking clearly would be understatement of the year.:( This is the first time I've been back on since posting the article, I slept for 18 hours straight after posting it. I agree with BT, horrible article and I apologize to everyone for not checking it out further before posting. This headache came on extremely quick, I had almost no warning like they usually do.


What a time to break the only bowl I had in the house, and I had no papers either, and was in no condition to drive to get either and the wife was at work. The one thing that instantly stops my migraines dead in their tracks is Mary J. I tried to read the article all the way through before posting, but could only see out of my peripherals, and that makes reading anything pretty much impossible.

tod evans
01-05-2013, 01:32 PM
Use an aluminum can for a quick disposable pipe...

UWDude
01-05-2013, 01:37 PM
30 years? For what? Did they finally pin the molestation of his baby daughter on him? (with no proof but the word of his ex-girlfriend)

Yeah, they tried character assassination, and got him thrown in prison.

coastie
01-05-2013, 01:50 PM
Use an aluminum can for a quick disposable pipe...

I don't know if you've ever had a real migraine, but becoming all MacGuyvery was out of the question at the time, and I don't have any aluminum cans around the house either way as we never drink soda, and any beer that occasionally is invited in is in bottle form.:o

tod evans
01-05-2013, 01:55 PM
I don't know if you've ever had a real migraine, but becoming all MacGuyvery was out of the question at the time, and I don't have any aluminum cans around the house either way as we never drink soda, and any beer that occasionally is invited in is in bottle form.:o

Just trying to be helpful...:o

coastie
01-05-2013, 02:12 PM
Just trying to be helpful...:o

I know. :)I wished I had one for about .002 seconds, believe that. I have the most extreme kind, pain beyond imagination, must be in bed completely dark room, no sound, don't even talk to me, because it hurts to even think of a response. I even give the key to my gun safe to a third party to hide when I have them, they are that bad for me, and I've considered "fixing" it the easy way on more than one occasion, it hurts that bad. Pain like you cannot imagine. Still hurts today when I even cough just a little(the clear your throat kind of "cough"), or bend in any way that places my head below my heart. Getting better by the hour though, and the bright side is they are rare for me to have, usually one or two per year, if that. I started getting these around 11 years old, seemed to disappear in my 20's but are now coming back with more frequency in my 30's. Lets hope this was the only one for this year,or even better, the last one I'll ever have.

UWDude
01-05-2013, 02:35 PM
I know. :)I wished I had one for about .002 seconds, believe that. I have the most extreme kind, pain beyond imagination, must be in bed completely dark room, no sound, don't even talk to me, because it hurts to even think of a response. I even give the key to my gun safe to a third party to hide when I have them, they are that bad for me, and I've considered "fixing" it the easy way on more than one occasion, it hurts that bad. Pain like you cannot imagine. Still hurts today when I even cough just a little(the clear your throat kind of "cough"), or bend in any way that places my head below my heart. Getting better by the hour though, and the bright side is they are rare for me to have, usually one or two per year, if that. I started getting these around 11 years old, seemed to disappear in my 20's but are now coming back with more frequency in my 30's. Lets hope this was the only one for this year,or even better, the last one I'll ever have.

I have the same. Aural migraines. Blurred vision, numb hand, horror. Then everything goes quiet, and I think it was a false alarm. Then an hour later... BAM! PAIN! Puking helps. Then I just try to sleep it off. Never tried marijuana. Had about 12 of them from ages 13 - 19. Then nothing, until I had two more a couple of years ago.

I remember I tried to document my last one, things like what side the pain was on and such, (I still don't know if it is always the same side of my head) But I couldn't even write anything sensibly.

UWDude
01-05-2013, 02:35 PM
I know. :)I wished I had one for about .002 seconds, believe that. I have the most extreme kind, pain beyond imagination, must be in bed completely dark room, no sound, don't even talk to me, because it hurts to even think of a response. I even give the key to my gun safe to a third party to hide when I have them, they are that bad for me, and I've considered "fixing" it the easy way on more than one occasion, it hurts that bad. Pain like you cannot imagine. Still hurts today when I even cough just a little(the clear your throat kind of "cough"), or bend in any way that places my head below my heart. Getting better by the hour though, and the bright side is they are rare for me to have, usually one or two per year, if that. I started getting these around 11 years old, seemed to disappear in my 20's but are now coming back with more frequency in my 30's. Lets hope this was the only one for this year,or even better, the last one I'll ever have.

I have the same. Aural migraines. Blurred vision, numb hand, horror. Then everything goes quiet, and I think it was a false alarm. Then an hour later... BAM! PAIN! Puking helps. Then I just try to sleep it off. Never tried marijuana. Had about 12 of them from ages 13 - 19. Then nothing, until I had two more a couple of years ago.

I remember I tried to document my last one, things like what side the pain was on and such, (I still don't know if it is always the same side of my head) But I couldn't even write anything sensibly.

BlackTerrel
01-05-2013, 05:24 PM
Yeah, I posted this as I was literally falling into one of the worst migraines I've ever had in my life, to say I wasn't thinking clearly would be understatement of the year.:( This is the first time I've been back on since posting the article, I slept for 18 hours straight after posting it. I agree with BT, horrible article and I apologize to everyone for not checking it out further before posting. This headache came on extremely quick, I had almost no warning like they usually do.


What a time to break the only bowl I had in the house, and I had no papers either, and was in no condition to drive to get either and the wife was at work. The one thing that instantly stops my migraines dead in their tracks is Mary J. I tried to read the article all the way through before posting, but could only see out of my peripherals, and that makes reading anything pretty much impossible.

Ouch. I've been free of them so far (knock on wood) but my mom gets debilitating ones and would scare the crap out of me as a kid cause we had no one else to take care of us. Glad you're better now.