What you'll see in the rebellion

[cbrons]

Warning: Don't click link below to read post unless you wanna be on some sort of gov watchlist (unless you're already on one)... Not that the post is advocating any sort of violence against the government, or even violence in general.

http://www.bob-owens.com/2012/12/what-youll-see-in-the-rebellion/

Scary.

Preview:

"Tens of millions of Americans will refuse to comply with an order that is clearly a violation of the explicit intent of the Second Amendment. Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders. Perhaps 40-50 million citizens will view such a law as treason. Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way, and maybe 40,000-100,000 Americans will form small independently-functioning active resistance cells, or become lone-wolves."

[oyarde]

If I recall , about 15 percent ofthe American population actively participated in the defeat of the British .

[cbrons]

If I recall , about 15 percent ofthe American population actively participated in the defeat of the British .

The Three (3%) Percent in 1775.

During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King's tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population. In addition to these revolutionaries were perhaps another 20% who favored their cause but did little or nothing to support it. Another one-third of the population sided with the King (by the end of the war there were actually more Americans fighting FOR the King than there were in the field against him) and the final third took no side, blew with the wind and took what came.

from: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-is-three-percenter.html

[presence]

I'll ask the wife if she minds them camping out back.

[AuH20]

Make no mistake about. The people at the top and their loyal "middle managers" are cowards of the highest order. Once they realize, that they cannot be protected, they will either resign or disappear from public life in some remote locale.

[oyarde]

Make no mistake about. The people at the top and their loyal "middle managers" are cowards of the highest order. Once they realize, that they cannot be protected, they will either resign or disappear from public life in some remote locale. I always thought so as well , hope so.

[oyarde]

I'll ask the wife if she minds them camping out back. Mine will be OK with it, I will just tell her after, what I usually do , she is used to it , she once said something about it to my Mother, who laughed, because my Father was the same way.

[cbrons]

I'll ask the wife if she minds them camping out back.

lol


they will either resign or disappear from public life in some remote locale.

Let's hope so.

[TheTexan]

I don't mean any offense to the gravity-challenged folks among us, but this might by the year to actually stick to a new year's resolution of getting back into shape...

[JK/SEA]

i'm just gonna keep writing strongly worded letters. It seems to be very effective.

[Eagles' Wings]

I don't mean any offense to the gravity-challenged folks among us, but this might by the year to actually stick to a new year's resolution of getting back into shape...Sounds good. This is something Chuck Baldwin has encouraged for years.

[AuH20]

SKD Tactical has a huge sale right now. Best time to stock up, friends:

http://www.skdtac.com/

[ghengis86]

Mine will be OK with it, I will just tell her after, what I usually do , she is used to it , she once said something about it to my Mother, who laughed, because my Father was the same way.

Bigger target area for the drone. Will they double tap your neighbors?

[TheTexan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guocvS7XQW0

[Pauls' Revere]

Warning: Don't click link below to read post unless you wanna be on some sort of gov watchlist (unless you're already on one)... Not that the post is advocating any sort of violence against the government, or even violence in general.

http://www.bob-owens.com/2012/12/what-youll-see-in-the-rebellion/



Scary.

Preview:

"Tens of millions of Americans will refuse to comply with an order that is clearly a violation of the explicit intent of the Second Amendment. Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders. Perhaps 40-50 million citizens will view such a law as treason. Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way, and maybe 40,000-100,000 Americans will form small independently-functioning active resistance cells, or become lone-wolves."

Please, cut and paste the text for us so we can avoid being added to the watchlist.

[TheTexan]

Please, cut and paste the text for us so we can avoid being added to the watchlist.

I think it's a little too late for that, for most of the members here


Let me explain, gun grabbers, how your confiscatory fantasy plays out. Let us imagine for a moment that a sweeping gun control bill similar to the one currently suggested is passed by the House and Senate, and signed into law by a contemptuous President.

Perhaps 50-100 million firearms currently owned by law-abiding citizens will become contraband with the stroke of a pen. Citizens will either register their firearms, or turn them in to agents of the federal government, or risk becoming criminals themselves. Faced with this choice, millions will indeed register their arms. Perhaps as many will claim they’ve sold their arms, or had them stolen. Suppose that as many as 200-250 million weapons of other types will go unregistered.

Tens of millions of Americans will refuse to comply with an order that is clearly a violation of the explicit intent of the Second Amendment. Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders. Perhaps 40-50 million citizens will view such a law as treason. Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way, and maybe 40,000-100,000 Americans will form small independently-functioning active resistance cells, or become lone-wolves.

They will be leaderless, stateless, difficult to track, and considering the number of military veterans that would likely be among their number, extremely skilled at sabotage, assassination, and ambush.

After a number of carefully-planned, highly-publicized, and successful raids by the government, one or more will invariably end “badly.” Whether innocents are gunned down, a city block is burned to ash, or especially fierce resistance leads to a disastrously failed raid doesn’t particularly matter. What matters is that when illusion of the government’s invincibility and infallibility is broken, the hunters will become the hunted.

Unnamed citizens and federal agents will be the first to die, and they will die by the dozens and maybe hundreds, but famous politicians will soon join them in a spate of revenge killings, many of which will go unsolved.

Ironically, while the gun grab was intended to keep citizens from preserving their liberties with medium-powered weapons, it completely ignored the longer-ranged rifles perfect for shooting at ranges far beyond what a security detail can protect, and suppressed .22LR weapons proven deadly in urban sniping in Europe and Asia.

While the Secret Service will be able to protect the President in the White House, he will not dare leave his gilded cage except in carefully controlled circumstances. Even then he will be forced to move like a criminal. He will never be seen outdoors in public again. Not in this country.

The 535 members of the House and Senate in both parties that allowed such a law to pass would largely be on their own; the Secret Service is too small to protect all of them and their families, the Capitol Police too unskilled, and competent private security not particularly interested in working against their own best interests at any price. The elites will be steadily whittled down, and if they can not be reached directly, the targets will become their staffers, spouses, children, and grandchildren. Grandstanding media figures loyal to the regime would die in droves, executed as enemies of the Republic.

You can expect congressional staffs to disintegrate with just a few shootings, and expect elected officials themselves to resign well before a quarter of their number are eliminated, leaving us with a boxed-in executive, his cabinet loyalists trapped in the same win, die, or flee the country circumstance, military regime loyalists, and whatever State Governors who desire to risk their necks as well.

Here, the President will doubtlessly order the activation of National Guard units and the regular military to impose martial law, setting the largest and most powerful military in the world against its own people. Unfortunately, the tighter the President clinches his tyrannical fist, the more rebels he makes.

Military commands and federal agencies will be whittled down as servicemen and agents will desert or defect. Some may leave as individuals, others may join the Rebellion in squad and larger-sized units with all their weapons, tactics, skills, and insider intelligence. The regime will be unable to trust its own people, and because they cannot trust them, they will lose more in a vicious cycle of collapse.

Some of these defectors will be true “operators,” with the skills and background to turn ragtag militia cells into the kind of forces that decimate loyalist troops, allowing them no rest and no respite, striking them when they are away from their most potent weapons. Military vehicles are formidable, but they are thirsty beasts, in terms of fuel, ammo, time, and maintenance. Tanks and bombers are formidable only when they have gas, guns, and can be maintained. In a war without a front, logistics are incredibly easy to destroy, and mechanics and supply clerks are not particularly adept at defending themselves.

Eventually, the government will turn upon itself. The President will be captured or perhaps killed by his own protectors. A dictatorship will form in the vacuum.

If we’re lucky, the United States of America, or whatever amalgam results, will again try to rebuild. If we’re very lucky, the victors will reinstate the Constitution as the law of the land. Just as likely though, we’ll face fractious civil wars fought over issues we’ve not begun to fathom, and a much diminished state or states will result, perhaps guided by foreign interests.

It will not be pretty. There will be no “winners,” and perhaps hundreds of thousands to millions of dead.

Yet, this is the future we face if the power-mad among us are not soundly defeated at the ballot box before they affect more “change” than we, the People, are willing to surrender to would-be tyrants.

[TheTexan]

double post

[cbrons]

For people who think the .mil will all desert the good law abiding citizen and side with the .gov: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-902515

[SpreadOfLiberty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wf054ifHhw

(Y2K version with Chad Brock, John Anderson, George Jones, and Hank Jr.)

[AuH20]

For people who think the .mil will all desert the good law abiding citizen and side with the .gov: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-902515

that marine posts on AR-15.com. He just told us about some lunatic female marine who took exception to his poignant letter:


..so I hate to ruin the good cheer, however this post was made by a female Marine in regards to my letter. You guys are going to love this.

"Yet another guy who doesn't get it. When you live in society, you obey the law of the land. The law already requires you to register in order to purchase a weapon. By refusing to do so, this moron is saying he wants to break the law in order to possess weapons. That makes him a criminal. In that case, he should be forced to surrender EVERY weapon he has....since he has not only established his contempt for rule of law, but his status as a criminal. That he wore my uniform is a travesty. At least now he is only a disgrace to himself, and not to my uniform. I see he also has a problem with the "woman" who has proposed the legislation. I guess he's also one of those infantry vs pog's idiots, as well. I suppose he has contempt for women. He was a Corporal. Maybe I could stomp a new hole in his ass for him?
In short: Fucking douchebag...."

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

I didn't think I'd have reason to speak of a conversation I had with a coworker the other day. Not here, at least.

But here I am, reading the words generously C&Peed for us by bxm (thank you) and thinking to myself, "...didn't my buddy and I spend an afternoon shuffling furniture around the building, talking about this very thing, the day of the SH shootings?" We fleshed it out the same way, and arrived at the same gloomy conclusion that this writer did. Scary stuff. The question we arrived at, and one which neither of us were happy about, was the question of what exactly would you do? Would we stand idly by and watch our town become a battle zone? It all sounded like some kind of dystopian science fucking fiction, with a really bad plot and a worse ending for a lot of good men with families, with farms, with jobs...and guns.

What is it now, a week, two weeks since we had that conversation...I don't know. And here it is, first the news detailing the Feinstein bill, and now the articles linked on Drudge where Obozo is essentially setting the stage. All those weapons and all that ammunition for the gubmint, all paid for with stimulus funds and by arcane sections of the health care takeover. Add to all this, an understanding of Operation Fast and Furious, and just what its intent truly was. They failed in that operation, and call me kooky if you like - tragic as it was, Sandy Hook, the Batman shooting, the Jared Laugher/Gabby Gifford shooting...every time this shit happens, the explanation is the same. Mentally disturbed. Participant in this DARPA program; involved in this government funded study...Jesus Christ with a jelly donut, I can hardly believe what I'm typing. There's a pattern, is all.

Maybe it's time for all of us to have a little heart to heart with ourselves, and decide soon: what exactly would you​ do, if the military rolled into your little town?

[oyarde]

Bigger target area for the drone. Will they double tap your neighbors? drones are all operated out of one place.

[John F Kennedy III]

Don't worry about getting us put on lists. Every member here has an extensive file at a fusion center.

[bolil]

Don't worry about getting us put on lists. Every member here has an extensive file at a fusion center.

Not me, I am here to compile and report ;)...
Semper Fidelis.

[AuH20]

Don't worry about getting us put on lists. Every member here has an extensive file at a fusion center.

So true. We are on the 'imminent threat' lists in flashing bold lettering.

[shane77m]

So true. We are on the 'imminent threat' lists in flashing bold letting.

Let it be known that I will be totally subservient. I will even help guide people to the FEMA camp.




:rolleyes:

[oyarde]

Fuck a list.

[bolil]

Some lists are roll calls of the honorable.

[AuH20]

Has any NSA insider ever offered a legitimate description of these lists??? I know that whole red/blue list phenomenom took hold of the internet 4 or 5 years ago but I don't think that was too accurate. Could one of the moles that monitor RPF answer my question? I know resistance is futile, but you could at least fill me in to what I have to look forward too.

[tangent4ronpaul]

DHS insider tells gun confiscation plans for 2013

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7305

DH: Okay, so last August, you said things were “going hot.” I printed what you said, and things did not seem to happen as you said.

RB: You’d better recheck your notes and compare [them] with some of the events leading up to the election. I think you’ll find that a full blown campaign of deception took place to make certain Obama got back into office. The polls, the media, and a few incidents that happened in the two months before the election. I guess if people are looking for some big event they can point to and say “aha” for verification, well then I overestimated people’s ability to tell when they are being lied to.

DH: What specific incidents are you referring to?

RB: Look at the threats to Obama. Start there. The accusations of racism. Then look at the polls, and especially the judicial decisions about voter ID laws. Bought and paid for, or where there was any potential for problems, the judges got the message, loud and clear. Then look at the voter fraud. And not a peep from the Republicans. Nothing. His second term was a done deal in September. This was planned. Frankly, the Obama team knew they had it sewn up long before election day. Benghazi could have derailed them, but the fix was in there, so I never saw anything on my end to suggest a ready-made solution had to be implemented.

DH: What’s going on now?

RB: People better pay close attention over the next few months. First, there won’t be any meaningful deal about the fiscal crisis. This is planned, I mean, the lack of deal is planned. In fact, it’ necessary to pave the way for what is in the short term agenda.

DH: Wait, you’re DHS – not some Wall Street insider.

RB: So you think they are separate agendas? That’s funny. The coming collapse of the U.S. dollar is a done deal. It’s been in the works for years – decades, and this is one of the most important cataclysmic events that DHS is preparing for. I almost think that DHS was created for that purpose alone, to fight Americans, not protect them, right here in America. But that’s not the only reason. There’s the gun issue too.

DH: So, what are you seeing at DHS?

RB: We don’t have a lot of time, tonight – our meeting – as well as a country. I mean I have heard – with my own ears – plans being made that originate from the White House that involve the hierarchy of DHS. You gotta know how DHS works at the highest of levels. It’s Jarrett and Napolitano, with Jarrett organizing all of the plans and approaches. She’s the one in charge, at least from my point of view, from what I am seeing. Obama knows that’s going on and has say, but it seems that Jarrett has the final say, not the other way around. It’s [screwed] up. This really went into high gear since the election.

But it’s a train wreck at mid management, but is more effective at the lower levels. A lot of police departments are being gifted with federal funds with strings attached. That money is flowing out to municipal police departments faster than it can be counted. They are using this money to buy tanks, well, not real tanks, but you know what I mean. DHS is turning the police into soldiers.

By the way, there has been a lot of communication recently between Napolitano and Pistole [TSA head]. They are planning to use TSA agents in tandem with local police for certain operations that are being planned right now. This is so [deleted] important that you cannot even begin to imagine. If you get nothing else out of this, please, please make sure you tell people to watch the TSA and their increasing involvement against the American public. They are the stooges who will be the ones to carry out certain plans when the dollar collapses and the gun confiscation begins.

DH: Whoa, wait a minute. You just said a mouthful. What’s the agenda here?

RB: Your intelligence insider – he knows that we are facing a planned economic collapse. You wrote about this in your articles about Benghazi, or at least that’s what I got out of the later articles. So why the surprise?

DH: There’s a lot here. Let’s take it step by step if you don’t mind.

RB: Okay, but I’m not going to give it to you in baby steps. Big boy steps. This is what I am hearing. Life for the average American is going to change significantly, and not the change people expect. First, DHS is preparing to work with police departments and the TSA to respond to civil uprisings that will happen when there is a financial panic. And there will be one, maybe as early as this spring, when the dollar won’t get you a gumball. I’m not sure what the catalyst will be, but I’ve heard rumblings about a derivatives crisis as well as an oil embargo. I don’t know, that’s not my department. But something is going to happen to collapse the dollar, which has been in the works since the 1990′s. Now if it does not happen as soon as this, it’s because there are people, real patriots, who are working to prevent this, so it’s a fluid dynamic. But that doesn’t change the preparations.

And the preparations are these: DHS is prepositioning assets in strategic areas near urban centers all across the country. Storage depots. Armories. And even detainment facilities, known as FEMA camps. FEMA does not even know that the facilities are earmarked for detainment by executive orders, at least not in the traditional sense they were intended. By the way, people drive by some of these armories everyday without even giving them a second look. Commercial and business real estate across the country are being bought up or leased for storage purposes. Very low profile.

Anyway, I am hearing that the plan from on high is to let the chaos play out for a while, making ordinary citizens beg for troops to be deployed to restore order. but it’s all organized to make them appear as good guys. That’s when the real head knocking will take place. We’re talking travel restrictions, which should no be a problem because gas will be rationed or unavailable. The TSA will be in charge of travel, or at least be a big part of it. They will be commissioned, upgraded from their current status.

They, I mean Jarrett and Obama as well as a few others in government, are working to create a perfect storm too. This is being timed to coincide with new gun laws.

DH: New federal gun laws?

RB: Yes. Count on the criminalization to possess just about every gun you can think of. Not only restrictions, but actual criminalization of possessing a banned firearm. I heard this directly from the highest of my sources. Plans were made in the 90′s but were withheld. Now, it’s a new day, a new time, and they are riding the wave of emotion from Sandy Hook., which, by the way and as tragic as it was, well, it stinks to high heaven. I mean there are many things wrong there, and first reports are fast disappearing. The narrative is being changed. Look, there is something wrong with Sandy Hook, but if you write it, you’ll be called a kook or worse.

DH: Sure

RB: But Sandy Hook, there’s something very wrong there. But I am hearing that won’t be the final straw. There will be another if they think it’s necessary.

DH: Another shooting?

RB: Yes.

DH: That would mean they are at least complicit.

RB: Well, that’s one way of looking at it.

DH: Are they? Were they?

RB: Do your own research. Nothing I say, short of bringing you photographs and documents will convince anyone, and even then, it’s like [DELETED] in the wind.

DH: So…

RB: So what I’m telling you is that DHS, the TSA and certain, but not all, law enforcement agencies are going to be elbow deep in riot control in response to an economic incident. At the same time or close to it, gun confiscation will start. It will start on a voluntary basis using federal registration forms, then an amnesty, then the kicking-in of doors start.

Before or at the same time, you know all the talk of lists, you know, the red and blue lists that everyone made fun of? Well they exist, although I don’t know about their colors. But there are lists of political dissidents maintained by DHS. Names are coordinated with the executive branch, but you know what? They did not start with Obama. They’ve been around in one form or another for years. The difference though is that today, they are much more organized. And I’ll tell you that the vocal opponents of the politics of the global elite, the bankers, and the opponents of anything standing in their way, well, they are on the top of the list of people to be handled.

DH: Handled?

RB: As the situations worsen, some might be given a chance to stop their vocal opposition. Some will, others won’t. I suppose they are on different lists. Others won’t have that chance. By that time, though, it will be chaos and people will be in full defensive mode. They will be hungry, real hunger like we’ve never experienced before. They will use our hunger as leverage. They will use medical care as leverage.

DH: Will this happen all at once?

RB: They hope to make it happen at the same time. Big cities first, with sections being set apart from the rest of the country. Then the rural areas. There are two different plans for geographical considerations. But it will all come together.

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7310

DH: Wait, this sounds way, way over the top. Are you telling me… [Interrupts]

RB: [Over talk/Unintelligible] …know who was selected or elected twice now. You know who his associates are. And you are saying this is way over the top? Don’t forget what Ayers said – you talked to Larry Grathwohl. This guy is a revolutionary. He does not want to transform our country in the traditional sense. He will destroy it. And he’s not working alone. He’s not working for himself, either. He has his handlers. So don’t think this is going to be a walk in the park, with some type of attempt to rescue the country. Cloward-Piven. Alinsky. Marx. All rolled into one. And he won’t need the rest of his four years to do it.


DH: I need you to be clear. Let’s go back again, I mean, to those who speak out about what’s happening.

RB: [Edit note: Obviously irritated] How much clearer do you want it? The Second Amendment will be gone, along with the first, at least practically or operationally. The Constitution will be gone, suspended, at least in an operational sense. Maybe they won’t actually say that they are suspending it, but will do it. Like saying the sky is purple when it’s actually blue. How many people will look a the sky and say yeah, it’s purple? They see what they want to see.

So the DHS, working with other law enforcement organizations, especially the TSA as it stands right now, will oversee the confiscation of assault weapons, which includes all semi-automatic weapons following a period of so-called amnesty. It also includes shotguns that hold multiple rounds, or have pistol grips. They will go after the high capacity magazines, anything over, say 5 rounds.

They will also go after the ammunition, especially at the manufacturer’s level. They will require a special license for certain weapons, and make it impossible to own anything. More draconian than England. This is a global thing too. Want to hunt? What gives you the right to hunt their animals? Sound strange? I hope so, but they believe they own the animals. Do you understand now, how sick and twisted this is? Their mentality?

The obvious intent is to disarm American citizens. They will say that we’ll still be able to defend ourselves and go hunting, but even that will be severely regulated. This is the part that they are still working out, though. While the plans were made years ago, there is some argument over the exact details. I know that Napalitano, even with her support of the agenda, would like to see this take place outside of an E.O. [Executive Order] in favor of legislative action and even with UN involvement.

DH: But UN involvement would still require legislative approval.

RB: Yes, but your still thinking normal – in normal terms. Stop thinking about a normal situation. The country is divided, which is exactly where Obama wants us to be. We are as ideologically divided as we were during the Civil War and that rift is growing every day. Add in a crisis – and economic crisis – where ATM and EBT cards will stop working. Where bank accounts will contain nothing but air. They are anticipating a revolution and a civil war rolled into one (emphasis added by this author).

Imagine when talk show hosts or Bloggers or some other malcontent gets on the air or starts writing about the injustice of it all, and about how Obama is the anti-Christ or something. They will outlaw such talk or writing as inciting the situation – they will make it illegal by saying that it is causing people to die. The Republicans will go along with everything as it’s – we have – a one party system. Two parties is an illusion. It’s all so surreal to talk about but you see where this is headed, right?

DH: Well, what about the lists?

RB: Back to that again, okay. Why do you think the NSA has surveillance of all communications? To identify and stop terrorism? Okay, to be fair, that is part of it, but not the main reason. The federal agencies have identified people who present a danger to them and their agendas. I don’t know if they are color coded like you mentioned, red blue purple or peach mango or whatever, but they exist. In fact, each agency has their own. You know, why is it so [deleted] hard for people to get their heads around the existence of lists with names of people who pose a threat to their plans? The media made a big deal about Nixon’s enemies list and everyone nodded and said yeah, that [deleted], but today? They’ve been around for years and years.

DH: I think it’s because of the nature of the lists today. What do they plan to do with their enemies?

RB: Go back to what Ayers said when, in the late 60′s? 70′s? I forget. Anyway, he was serious. But to some extent, the same thing that happened before. They – the people on some of these lists – are under surveillance, or at least some, and when necessary, some are approached and made an offer. Others, well, they can be made to undergo certain training. Let’s call it sensitivity training, except on a much different level. Others, most that are the most visible and mainstream are safe for the most part. And do you want to know why? It’s because they are in the pockets of the very people we are talking about, but they might or might not know it. Corporate sponsorship – follow the money. You know the drill. You saw it happen before, with the birth certificate.

It’s people that are just under the national radar but are effective. They have to worry. Those who have been publicly marginalized already but continue to talk or write or post, they are in trouble. It’s people who won’t sell out, who think that they can make a difference. Those are the people who have to worry.

Think about recent deaths that everybody believes were natural or suicides. Were they? People are too busy working their [butts] off to put food on the table to give a damn about some guy somewhere who vapor locks because of too many doughnuts and coffee and late nights. And it seems plausible enough to happen. This time, when everything collapses, do you think they will care if it is a bullet or a heart attack that takes out the opposition? [Deleted] no.

DH: That’s disturbing. Do you… [interrupts]

RB: Think about the Oklahoma City bombing in ’95. Remember how Clinton blamed that on talk radio, or at least in part. Take what happened then and put it in context of today. Then multiply the damnation by 100, and you will begin to understand where this is going. People like Rush and Hannity have a narrow focus of political theater. They’ll still be up and running during all of this to allow for the appearance of normal. Stay within the script, comrade.

But as far as the others, they have certain plans. And these plans are becoming more transparent. They are getting bolder. They are pushing lies, and the bigger the lie, the easier it is to sell to the people. They will even try to sell a sense of normalcy as things go absolutely crazy and break down. It will be surreal. And some will believe it, think that it’s only happening in certain places, and we can draw everything back once the dust settles. But when it does, this place will not be the same.

DH: Will there be resistance within the ranks of law enforcement? You know, will some say they won’t go along with the plan, like the Oath Keepers?

RB: Absolutely. But they will not only be outnumbered, but outgunned – literally. The whole objective is to bring in outside forces to deal with the civil unrest that will happen in America. And where does their allegiance lie? Certainly not to Sheriff Bob. Or you or me.

During all of this, and you’ve got to remember that the dollar collapse is a big part of this, our country is going to have to be redone. I’ve seen – personally – a map of North America without borders. Done this year. The number 2015 was written across the top, and I believe that was meant as a year. Along with this map – in the same area where this was – was another map showing the United States cut up into sectors. I’m not talking about what people have seen on the internet, but something entirely different. Zones. And a big star on the city of Denver.

Sound like conspiracy stuff on the Internet? Yup. But maybe they were right. It sure looks that way. It will read that way if you decide to write about this. Good luck with that. Anyway, the country seemed to be split into sectors, but not the kind shown on the internet. Different.

DH: What is the context of that?

RB: Across the bottom of this was written economic sectors. It looked like a work in progress, so I can’t tell you any more than that. From the context I think it has to do with the collapse of the dollar.

DH: Why would DHS have this? I mean, it seems almost contrived, doesn’t it?

RB: Not really, when you consider the bigger picture. But wait before we go off into that part. I need to tell you about Obamacare, you know, the new health care coming up. It plays a big part – a huge [deleted] part in the immediate reshaping of things.

DH: How so?

RB: It creates a mechanism of centralized control over people. That’s the intent of this monster of a bill, not affordable health care. And it will be used to identify gun owners. Think your health records are private? Have you been to the doctor lately? Asked about owning a gun? Why do you think they ask, do you think they care about your safety? Say yes to owning a gun and your information is shared with another agency, and ultimately, you will be identified as a security risk. The records will be matched with other agencies.

You think that they are simply relying on gun registration forms? This is part of data collection that people don’t get. Oh, and don’t even think about getting a script for some mood enhancement drug and being able to own a gun.

Ayers and Dohrn are having the times of their lives seeing things they’ve worked for all of their adult lives actually coming to pass. Oh, before I forget, look at the recent White House visitor logs.

DH: Why? Where did that come from?

RB: Unless they are redacted, you will see the influence of Ayers. Right now. The Weather Underground has been reborn. So has their agenda.

DH: Eugenics? Population control?

RB: Yup. And re-education camps. But trust me, you write about this, you’ll be called a kook. It’s up to you, it’s your reputation, not mine. And speaking about that, you do know that this crew is using the internet to ruin people, right? They are paying people to infiltrate discussion sites and forums to call people like you idiots. Show me the proof they say. Why doesn’t you source come forward? If he knows so much, why not go to Fox or the media? To them, if it’s not broadcast on CNN, it’s not real. Well, they’ve got it backwards. Very little on the news is real. The stock market, the economy, the last presidential polls, very little is real.

But this crew is really internet savvy. They’ve got a lot of people they pay to divert issues on forums, to mock people, to marginalize them. They know what they’re doing. People think they’ll take sites down – hack them. Why do that when they are more effective to infiltrate the discussion? Think about the birth certificate, I mean the eligibility problem of Obama. Perfect example.

DH: How soon do you see things taking place?

RB: They already are in motion. If you’re looking for a date I can’t tell you. Remember, the objectives are the same, but plans, well, they adapt. They exploit. Watch how this fiscal cliff thing plays out. This is the run-up to the next beg economic event.

I can’t give you a date. I can tell you to watch things this spring. Start with the inauguration and go from there. Watch the metals, when they dip. It will be a good indication that things are about to happen. I got that little tidbit from my friend at [REDACTED].

NOTE: At this point, my contact asked me to reserve further disclosures until after the inauguration.

-t

[bolil]

If the above is true, then the hopes of the human race lie with the quiet ones.

[Philhelm]

If the above is true, then the hopes of the human race lie with the quiet ones.

I watched The Hobbit with my wife today, and one of the quotes was:

“Saruman believes it is only great power that can hold evil in check, but that is not what I have found… I found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay— small acts of kindness and love. Why Bilbo Baggins? Perhaps because I am afraid, and he gives me courage.”
-Gandalf

Fictional, sure, but perhaps not untrue.

[bolil]

Tolkien, as far as I am concerned, is an unrecognized muse of liberty. Before the Ring of Power found Bilbo, many battles were fought and many tragedies unraveled. Are we the firstborn? Are we living in evening? "Oft evil will doth evil mar" - Gandalf.

[jmdrake]

For people who think the .mil will all desert the good law abiding citizen and side with the .gov: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-902515

I had to LOL at this comment.

I will not put them in the box,

I will not fit them out with locks.

You may not take mine, oh no no,

I will not ever let them go.

You cannot have them Dianne Feinstien,

So stick your bill where the sun don't shine....





With love, gun owners everywhere............

[cbrons]

Don't worry about getting us put on lists. Every member here has an extensive file at a fusion center.

Heh price we pay. I know you are right though.

[mz10]

This is a cute story and all, but let's not fool ourselves. If there is actually an assault weapons ban (as there was in 1994), 99% of people will pussy up and turn in their guns. They'll yell and scream and curse about it, but they will do it out of fear. The 1% who refuses will be overpowered by ATF forces. Sorry to break it to you, but the American Revolution happened at a very different time and under very different circumstances. If you think it can happen in the same way now, you're fooling yourselves.

I'm not saying this because I want any of it to be true, in fact quite the opposite. But I'm just trying to be realistic.

[TheTexan]

This is a cute story and all, but let's not fool ourselves. If there is actually an assault weapons ban (as there was in 1994), 99% of people will pussy up and turn in their guns. They'll yell and scream and curse about it, but they will do it out of fear. The 1% who refuses will be overpowered by ATF forces. Sorry to break it to you, but the American Revolution happened at a very different time and under very different circumstances. If you think it can happen in the same way now, you're fooling yourselves.

I'm not saying this because I want any of it to be true, in fact quite the opposite. But I'm just trying to be realistic.

The 1994 ban had no teeth. This one in its current form.. does. Shit, I'm pretty sure with this one I'd need to fill out NFA paperwork and get fingerprinted and register my GLOCK

Fuck. That.

[Pericles]

Acrually, I see this as an advantage in causing a great deal of unpleasantness rather than economic collapse. Our efforts can be more tightly focused on the cause, rather than being dissapated in mundane survival and community protection tasks. The people responsible are the same, so my energy can be concentrated to good effects, while still having something of a normal life.

[Victor Grey]

This is a cute story and all, but let's not fool ourselves. If there is actually an assault weapons ban (as there was in 1994), 99% of people will pussy up and turn in their guns. They'll yell and scream and curse about it, but they will do it out of fear. The 1% who refuses will be overpowered by ATF forces. Sorry to break it to you, but the American Revolution happened at a very different time and under very different circumstances. If you think it can happen in the same way now, you're fooling yourselves.

I'm not saying this because I want any of it to be true, in fact quite the opposite. But I'm just trying to be realistic.

So are you going to pussy up and turn in your guns, or are you going to address the ATF issue?

[Pericles]

So are you going to pussy up and turn in your guns, or are you going to address the ATF issue?

The entire ATF has less than 5000 personnel, including lawyers and secretaries.

After declaring war on the people of this country, I get to change status from weapons hold, to weapons free.

[fisharmor]

So are you going to pussy up and turn in your guns, or are you going to address the ATF issue?

I have guns. And a wife and kids. Who need to eat.

Perhaps there will be lone wolves... perhaps some group will organize.
This will all be AFTER the confiscations, if it happens at all. Which is dubious.
The confiscations are either going to go off without a hitch, or there are going to have to be people getting overwhelmingly gunned down.

A lot of them. Consider how many innocent people are gunned down by the pigs already, and nobody gives a shit.
You'd have to multiply that number by at least ten before people will start to care about confiscation show-downs.

If it was me, I'd leave a widow and her children behind, who hasn't worked in the better part of a decade.
And don't think for a second that they'd leave her with any of our money or belongings.
I have family, most of whom would resent the hell out of the fact that they'd be taking care of them thereafter all because of what they would undoubtedly see as a complete waste of a life.

The economics of this idea just don't work for me.
I'm simply not going to be one of the fifty thousand people who needs to die in order to bring political pressure to the situation.
And I suspect that the vast majority of the gun-owning population is in a similar situation.

[Pericles]

I have guns. And a wife and kids. Who need to eat.

Perhaps there will be lone wolves... perhaps some group will organize.
This will all be AFTER the confiscations, if it happens at all. Which is dubious.
The confiscations are either going to go off without a hitch, or there are going to have to be people getting overwhelmingly gunned down.

A lot of them. Consider how many innocent people are gunned down by the pigs already, and nobody gives a shit.
You'd have to multiply that number by at least ten before people will start to care about confiscation show-downs.

If it was me, I'd leave a widow and her children behind, who hasn't worked in the better part of a decade.
And don't think for a second that they'd leave her with any of our money or belongings.
I have family, most of whom would resent the hell out of the fact that they'd be taking care of them thereafter all because of what they would undoubtedly see as a complete waste of a life.

The economics of this idea just don't work for me.
I'm simply not going to be one of the fifty thousand people who needs to die in order to bring political pressure to the situation.
And I suspect that the vast majority of the gun-owning population is in a similar situation.

This is why we are where we are.

The above strategy has been the rational thing for an individual to do. Passing such a law changed the calculus for gun owners. When you know that the only thing that can stop the confiscation of any of your property (your firearms are your private property - yes?) is you and a firearm, defense is no longer a winning strategy for the individual, except to hope that you are so far down on the list that others fight before they get to you. Offensive action taken surreptitiously then becomes much more effective for the rational individual.

[TheTexan]

I have guns. And a wife and kids. Who need to eat.

Perhaps there will be lone wolves... perhaps some group will organize.
This will all be AFTER the confiscations, if it happens at all. Which is dubious.
The confiscations are either going to go off without a hitch, or there are going to have to be people getting overwhelmingly gunned down.

A lot of them. Consider how many innocent people are gunned down by the pigs already, and nobody gives a shit.
You'd have to multiply that number by at least ten before people will start to care about confiscation show-downs.

If it was me, I'd leave a widow and her children behind, who hasn't worked in the better part of a decade.
And don't think for a second that they'd leave her with any of our money or belongings.
I have family, most of whom would resent the hell out of the fact that they'd be taking care of them thereafter all because of what they would undoubtedly see as a complete waste of a life.

The economics of this idea just don't work for me.
I'm simply not going to be one of the fifty thousand people who needs to die in order to bring political pressure to the situation.
And I suspect that the vast majority of the gun-owning population is in a similar situation.

The other option is to do nothing and comply, and allow your children to be raised in a land without freedom.

Shitty choices all around.

[fisharmor]

The other option is to do nothing and comply, and allow your children to be raised in a land without freedom.

Shitty choices all around.

I didn't say anything about complying.
I'm only discounting being the guy who helps start the rebellion.

[presence]

To live on your knees or die on your feet....

[NoOneButPaul]

Reading that actually gave me great hope.

I'm in decent shape but my new year's resolution is to quit smoking, rebuild my lung capacity, and get into better shape so I CAN be one of those lone wolfs.

When they come for my Dad's guns i'll beg him to report them stolen and then i'll hide them myself.

[Acala]

This is a cute story and all, but let's not fool ourselves. If there is actually an assault weapons ban (as there was in 1994), 99% of people will pussy up and turn in their guns. They'll yell and scream and curse about it, but they will do it out of fear. The 1% who refuses will be overpowered by ATF forces. Sorry to break it to you, but the American Revolution happened at a very different time and under very different circumstances. If you think it can happen in the same way now, you're fooling yourselves.

I'm not saying this because I want any of it to be true, in fact quite the opposite. But I'm just trying to be realistic.

Nobody turned in their guns under the prior AW ban. And 1% of gun owners resisting would so far outgun the ATF that ATF wouldn't even try. The ONLY entity on earth that can go toe to toe with an angry, armed American public is the US armed forces. And even they could only fight to a draw.

[Danke]

The ONLY entity on earth that can go toe to toe with an angry, armed American public is the US armed forces. And even they could only fight to a draw.

And to shut down an army, go for the easier targets, those supplying the army.

[AuH20]

This is a cute story and all, but let's not fool ourselves. If there is actually an assault weapons ban (as there was in 1994), 99% of people will pussy up and turn in their guns. They'll yell and scream and curse about it, but they will do it out of fear. The 1% who refuses will be overpowered by ATF forces. Sorry to break it to you, but the American Revolution happened at a very different time and under very different circumstances. If you think it can happen in the same way now, you're fooling yourselves.

I'm not saying this because I want any of it to be true, in fact quite the opposite. But I'm just trying to be realistic.

The big problem is the rural south with some of the older vets in declining health and no real future. They are going to engage with no concern for themselves. That's who the ATF is very worried about. In any of type of attrition scenario, this could get ugly quick. The powers at be who have initiated this aggressive push do not understand the sentiment which some of the population holds due to this dystopian world we live in. Some don't care if they die, in fact they welcome it.

[LibForestPaul]

The other option is to do nothing and comply, and allow your children to be raised in a land without freedom.

Shitty choices all around.

and allow your children to be raised on a farm for others to devour.
If you believe these words to strong, take a look at some second world countries, such as Mexico, China, Bulgaria. Children whores, rife corruption, life means nothing in these states.

[pochy1776]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wf054ifHhw

(Y2K version with Chad Brock, John Anderson, George Jones, and Hank Jr.)

Slightly jingoistic and survivalist music. I'd rather die in Manhattan or Montreal to be honest.

[presence]

I'd rather die in Manhattan or Montreal to be honest.


Good luck with that...

"I got a shotgun, a rifle, and a 4wd."

[cbrons]

More on the military and political realities of total tyranny brought down by the political class:

http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/what-i-saw-at-the-coup/

This is by Matt Bracken, who has done a lot of writing on the subject.

[A Son of Liberty]

This fall, as I was walking in the boggy wetland bush on my land on a rainy day, I was carrying my .22 semi-auto pistol and my Mosin Nagant - bear country, and all, you know. Well, one of my feet got stuck in some muck and I tipped over into a deep puddle. I ended up dropping both guns into that muck, and I haven't been able to locate them since. Can't recall exactly where I was that day, but I'm certain they're buried at least a foot-and-a-half deep in that mud somewhere.

Shame. The pistol is already registered, of course, but if it weren't for that accident, I'd be fine with registering the rifle. Law's the law, and all.

[Danke]

This fall, as I was walking in the boggy wetland bush on my land on a rainy day, I was carrying my .22 semi-auto pistol and my Mosin Nagant - bear country, and all, you know. Well, one of my feet got stuck in some muck and I tipped over into a deep puddle. I ended up dropping both guns into that muck, and I haven't been able to locate them since. Can't recall exactly where I was that day, but I'm certain they're buried at least a foot-and-a-half deep in that mud somewhere.

Shame. The pistol is already registered, of course, but if it weren't for that accident, I'd be fine with registering the rifle. Law's the law, and all.

Thanks, "incident" logged. Anything else you want to get off your chest at this time?

[A Son of Liberty]

Thanks, "indecent" logged.

Just saying. I nearly got hypothermia in that mucky mess - if I hadn't been near freezing I would have made sure I recovered them, but I think I almost died, it was so bad. Had to get into the warm as fast as I could, ya know? Terrible day. Can't believe I lost both of those guns. And they've probably gone through a couple freeze/thaws at this point.

Sucks. Well, at least I didn't pay too much for the Mosin Nagant. Good rifle. Gee, maybe someday I'll get me another one...

[TheTexan]

Just saying. I nearly got hypothermia in that mucky mess - if I hadn't been near freezing I would have made sure I recovered them, but I think I almost died, it was so bad. Had to get into the warm as fast as I could, ya know? Terrible day. Can't believe I lost both of those guns. And they've probably gone through a couple freeze/thaws at this point.

Sucks. Well, at least I didn't pay too much for the Mosin Nagant. Good rifle. Gee, maybe someday I'll get me another one...

Odd, I lost a mac-10 in a similar puddle around the same time

[A Son of Liberty]

Odd, I lost a mac-10 in a similar puddle around the same time

It happens. You're out walking on your land... it's not pristine all the time, especially my property. Certain times of year, it's a mucky mess. I've sunk up to my hip sometimes. Drop something in that, you'll never find it. It was just bad luck that day. Lost both of those guns... the only two I have... had, I guess I should say. Anyway. Just the way it goes, I guess. Like I said, maybe I'll try to replace them sometime later, if I can.

Just a really unlucky day, that.

[JK/SEA]

//

[cbrons]

Odd, I lost a mac-10 in a similar puddle around the same time

AH man well today I had all my guns in the back of my car while shopping. When I came out, they were all gone. Stolen. Theft is on the rise in this area, though. I don't plan on replacing them at all. Oh well, sucks to be disarmed with absolutely no guns in the house at all anymore. All stolen... so no need to register anything bc I've got nothing. :(

Plus I want big brother to like me and know that I'm patriotic b/c I don't have guns like Sheila Jackson Lee said.

Also, Medicaid, Medicare, and the Environment.

[opal]

new years resolution.. get more experience with the 12 ga

[Dianne]

The peeps are too stupid... Every couple of years we are given the likes of Mitch McConnel..Obama.... John McCain.... the laundry list of drug addicts goes well beyond that... Hillary... Bill... Harry Reid.

I'm not saying I'm opposed to legalizing drugs... But the "so called" leaders of the country need to be drug tested tomorrow !!!! cause those jack legged addicts send you to prison for the same thing they do every day.

You guys have to admit this.. Our loser "lawmakers" are nothing but "lawbreakers" .

[presence]

What you'll see in the rebellion

http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.alongtheway.org/rattlesnakes/images/180-degrees.jpg&sa=X&ei=E1niUND4M_HV0gHV14CgBA&ved=0CA4Q8wc&usg=AFQjCNFFNXxeJoTNrTqtmwE3VYusgKR6wg

[AuH20]

Kudos to this man


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gL63OFIdIIM#!

[shane77m]

Hopefully it will never come to rebellion.

[presence]

Hopefully it will never come to rebellion.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWuKKzCGnxHaDP1TFXyl5p-w8fxFKBskDSu0raV7mJEjpjP8-Pk11i8WVp

http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/controlpanel/shoppics/TM-MAG-G36C50.jpg&sa=X&ei=7GbiUL2QOo600QHrmoCwDA&ved=0CAsQ8wc4XA&usg=AFQjCNEit1wHTqfc6gZXdnyh51dIkMFtqw

[Pauls' Revere]

I didn't say anything about complying.
I'm only discounting being the guy who helps start the rebellion.

I wonder what the demographics of the revolutionaries was? We know the founders were doctors, merchants, etc...but what about the everyday soldier? probably a farmer with a family? curious....

[A Son of Liberty]

AH man well today I had all my guns in the back of my car while shopping. When I came out, they were all gone. Stolen. Theft is on the rise in this area, though. I don't plan on replacing them at all. Oh well, sucks to be disarmed with absolutely no guns in the house at all anymore. All stolen... so no need to register anything bc I've got nothing. :(

Plus I want big brother to like me and know that I'm patriotic b/c I don't have guns like Sheila Jackson Lee said.

Also, Medicaid, Medicare, and the Environment.

If they were stolen, then you really should report that to the police.

Lost, or irreparably damaged, however, is a misfortune; but happily no one will be harmed as a consequence.

[cbrons]

If they were stolen, then you really should report that to the police.

Lost, or irreparably damaged, however, is a misfortune; but happily no one will be harmed as a consequence.

Yes I think actually they may have been lost, not stolen. Yes... lost... that's what happened...

[shane77m]

Yes I think actually they may have been lost, not stolen. Yes... lost... that's what happened...


http://youtu.be/iyp9fh-u4w8

[Bossobass]

I'm actually quite taken by surprise at how many people apparently feel that this particular country is worth dying for.

This and many other venues on the net are all hip to the one party system, rigged elections, private CB destroying the currency, insane deficit spending, more insane foreign policy, The impossible to repay "public debt", preposterous bank bailouts and trillions lent to foreign banks with no oversight, the control of MSM by 5 holding companies, spy drones, cameras, the tidal wave-like flight out of the country by anyone who ever manufactured anything anyone wanted to buy... all the way down to cops shooting your dog for sport.

IMHO, to know all of that and still believe it's worth dying for is to have sucked the "Our country is the greatest" tailpipe to irreparable brain damage.

Robert Redford's character in Spy Games said something that jogged my pea brain: "Whatever you do, save enough money to be able to die somewhere where it's warm."

[TheTexan]

I'm actually quite taken by surprise at how many people apparently feel that this particular country is worth dying for.

This country isn't worth dying for. The problem is that there isn't a country on this globe worth dying for.

The potential for a free country.. the first free country in a very long time, that's worth dying for

[cbrons]

This country isn't worth dying for. The problem is that there isn't a country on this globe worth dying for.

The potential for a free country.. the first free country in a very long time, that's worth dying for

Exactly... no one is interested in this country as it and its power structure currently exists.

[Czolgosz]

This country isn't worth dying for. The problem is that there isn't a country on this globe worth dying for.

The potential for a free country.. the first free country in a very long time, that's worth dying for

+bazillion

[oyarde]

This country isn't worth dying for. The problem is that there isn't a country on this globe worth dying for.

The potential for a free country.. the first free country in a very long time, that's worth dying for Correct , I care not for any persons Country, what I do care about is my own dirt and my ability to do as I wish on it.That I will defend.

[S.Shorland]

The muslim 'mehdi' receiving beya in mecca.Then the phoney muslim 'jesus' will appear.The phoney 'jesus' will make an image of the 'mehdi' (he will be called mohammed like his forbear)which will be able to speak.The image may be the black stone? who knows.If you don't subjugate yourself and worship (the new) mohammed,the phoney 'jesus' will have the power to have you killed.Accept death rather than worship him because the punishment for doing so is unimaginably worse.There is no rebellion against the true God.

[youngbuck]

Kudos to this man


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gL63OFIdIIM#!

Excellent video.

[Pauls' Revere]

This country isn't worth dying for. The problem is that there isn't a country on this globe worth dying for.

The potential for a free country.. the first free country in a very long time, that's worth dying for

I found just such a place. However, getting there is the problem.

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=Arim6KrmRtKYl9Wn_JBwR6SbvZx4?fr=yfp-t-701-1-s&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&p=earth%20like%20planet%20discovered

:D

[cbrons]

Bump for Cuomo trying to kill innocent people in New York

[WarAnonymous]

Excellent video.

This guy had a BlogTalk show when he was running for Senate... It was pretty good.