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Warrior_of_Freedom
12-30-2012, 12:12 PM
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Kylie
12-30-2012, 12:14 PM
IMO, yes.

They put people on this shit, which has side effects of suicide and psychosis, and wonder why they get all nutty and want to kill everyone, including themselves.

acptulsa
12-30-2012, 12:19 PM
Only the legal ones.

Funny how that works.

Anti Federalist
12-30-2012, 12:28 PM
Ya think?

http://www.ssristories.com/index.php?sort=date&p=school


What Drug Date Where Additional
School Stabbing Med For Depression 2011-10-25 Washington **Girl, 15, Stabs Two Girls in School Restroom: 1 Is In Critical Condition
School Shooting Zoloft Antidepressant & ADHD Med 2011-07-11 Alabama **14 Year Old Kills Fellow Middle School Student
School Shooting Meds For Depression & ADHD 2011-03-18 South Carolina **Teen Shoots School Official: Pipe Bombs Found in Backpack
School Massacre Plot Prozac Withdrawal 2011-02-23 Virginia **Teen Sentenced to 12 Years in Prison For Columbine Style Plot
School Hostage Situation Med For Depression 2010-12-15 France **17 Year Old with Sword Holds 20 Children & Teacher Hostage
School Incident/Bizarre Zoloft* 2010-08-22 Australia **School Counselor Exhibits Bizarre Behavior: Became Manic On Zoloft
School Knifing/Murder Meds For Depression & ADHD 2010-04-28 Massachusetts **Sixteen Year Old Kills 15 Year Old in High School Bathroom in Sept. 2009
School Shooting SSRI 2010-02-19 Finland **On Sept. 23, 2008 a Finnish Student Shot & Killed 9 Students Before Killing Himself
School Shooting Threats Celexa Antidepressant 2010-01-25 Virginia **Senior in High School Theatens to Kill 4 Classmates: Facebook Involved: Bail Denied
School Hostage Situation Cymbalta Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2009-11-09 New York **Man With Gun Inside School Holds Principal Hostage
School/Assault Antidepressant 2009-11-04 California **School Custodian Assaults Student & Principal: Had Manic Reaction From Depression Med
School Shooting Plot Antidepressants 2009-09-22 England **Two English School Boys Plot to Blow Up High School
School Bomb Threat Med For Depression 2009-06-29 Australia **Vexed Father Makes Bomb Threat Against Elementary School
School Shooting Med For Depression 2009-03-13 Germany **16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
School Knife Attack Treatment For Depression & Strattera 2009-03-10 Belgium **Three Dead in School Day Care: Two Children & a Caregiver: Happened Jan 23, 2009
School Shooting Plot Med For Depression WITHDRAWAL 2008-08-28 Texas **18 Year Old Plots a Columbine School Attack
School Threat/Lockdown Lexapro* 2008-04-18 California **Violent High School Student Shot to Death on Campus by Police
School Threat Antidepressants 2008-03-20 Indiana **Teen [16 Years Old] Brings Gun to School: There Is a Lockdown
School Stabbing Med For Depression 2008-02-29 Texas **Teen [17 Year Old GIRL] Stabs Friend & Principal at High School
School / Child Endangerment Antidepressants 2008-02-27 Canada **Wacky School Bus Driver Goes Berserk: Also Involved Painkillers
School Suicide/Lockdown Med For Depression 2008-02-20 Idaho **Teen [16 Years Old] Kills Self at High School: Lockdown by Police
School Shooting Prozac WITHDRAWAL 2008-02-15 Illinois ** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
School Threat Prozac Antidepressant 2008-01-25 Washington **Student Takes Loaded Shotgun & 3 Rifles to School Parking Lot: Plans Suicide
School Shooting Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2007-11-07 Finland **Student Kills 8: Wounds 10: Kills Self: High School in Finland
School Shooting Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2007-10-12 Ohio **Teen [14 Years Old] School Shooter Possibly on Antidepressants or In Withdrawal
School Suspension Lexapro Antidepressant 2007-07-28 Arkansas **Student Has 11 Incidents with Police During his 16 Months on Lexapro
School Threat Wellbutrin Antidepressant 2007-04-24 Tennessee **Young Boy, 12, Threatens to Shoot Others at School
School Threat Antidepressants 2007-04-23 Mississippi **Student Arrested for Making School Threat Over Internet
School Shooting Antidepressant? 2007-04-18 Virginia **Possible SSRI Use: 33 Dead at Virginia Tech
School Knife Attack Med for Depression 2006-12-06 Indiana **Teen Knife Attacks Fellow Student
School Stabbing Wellbutrin 2006-12-04 Indiana **Stabbing by 17 Year Old At High School: Charged with Attempted Murder
School Hostage Situation Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2006-11-28 North Carolina **Teen Holds Teacher & Student Hostage with Gun
School Shooting Antidepressant 2006-09-30 Colorado **Man Assaults Girls: Kills One & Self
School Shooting Celexa Antidepressant 2006-08-30 North Carolina **Teen Shoots at Two Students: Kills his Father: Celexa Found Among his Personal Effects
School Hostage Situation Med for Depression 2006-03-09 France **Young Ex-Teacher Holds 21 Students Hostage
School/Assault Zoloft Antidepressant 2006-02-15 Tennessee **Teen Attacks Teacher at School
School Violence Antidepressant 2005-11-19 Arizona **Violent 8 Year Old GIRL Handcuffed by Police at School
School Shooting Prozac Antidepressant 2005-03-24 Minnesota **10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
School Violence Paxil 2004-10-23 Washington DC **Young Boy, 10 Year Old, Has Violent Incidents at School
School Shooting Threat Med for Depression* 2004-10-19 New Jersey **Over-Medicated Teen Brings Loaded Handguns to School
School Shooting Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant 2004-02-09 New York **Student Shoots Teacher in Leg at School
School Shooting Threat Antidepressant 2003-05-31 Michigan **Teen Threatens School Shooting: Charge is Terrorism
School Shooting/Suicide Celexa 2002-10-07 Texas **Young Girl [13 Years Old] Kills Self at School With a Gun
School Arson Incidents Paxil 2002-04-12 Michigan **Unusual Personality Change on Paxil Caused 15 Year Old to Set Fires inside High School
School Violence Celexa Antidepressant 2002-01-23 Florida **Violent 8 Year-Old Boy Arrested At School
School Shooting Antidepressant? 2002-01-17 Virginia **Possible SSRI Withdrawal Mania: 3 Dead at Law School
School Hostage Situation Paxil 2001-10-12 North Carolina **Young Man Holds Three People Hostage in Duke University President's Office
School Machete Attack Med for Depression 2001-09-26 Pennsylvania **Man Attacks 11 Children & 3 Teachers at Elementary School
School Stabbings Antidepressants 2001-06-09 Japan **Eight Dead: 15 Wounded: Assailant Had Taken 10 Times his Normal Dose of Depression Med
School Shooting Celexa & Effexor Antidepressants 2001-04-19 California **Teen Shoots at Classmates in School
School Hostage Situation Paxil & Effexor Antidepressants 2001-04-15 Washington **Teen Holds Classmates Hostage with a Gun
School Shooting Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant 2001-03-10 Pennsylvania **14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
School Hostage Situation Prozac/ Paxil Antidepressants 2001-01-18 California **Teen [17 Years Old] Takes Girl Hostage at School: He is Killed by Police
School Threats Prozac Antidepressant 1999-10-19 Florida **Teen [16 Years Old] Threatens Classmates With Knife & Fake Explosives
School Shooting Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants 1999-04-20 Colorado **COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
School Shooting Threat Antidepressant 1999-04-16 Idaho **Teen Fires Gun in School
School Shooting Plot Med For Depression 1998-12-01 Wisconsin **Teen Accused of Plotting to Gun Down Students at School
School Shooting Prozac Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 1998-05-21 Oregon **Four Dead: Twenty Injured
School Violence/Murder Antidepressants* 1998-05-04 New York **Sheriff's Deputy Shoots his Wife in an Elementary School
School Stand-Off Zoloft Antidepressant 1998-04-13 Idaho **Teen [14 Years Old] in School Holds Police At Bay: Fires Shots
School Shooting Zoloft Antidepressant 1995-10-12 South Carolina **15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
School Murder Attempt Med For Depression 1995-03-04 California **Young Woman Deliberately Hits 3 Kids with Her Car at Elementary School: Laughed During Attack
School Shooting Related Luvox 1993-07-23 Florida **Man Commits Murder During Clinical Trial for Luvox: Same Drug as in COLUMBINE: Never Reported
School Shooting Antidepressants 1992-09-20 Texas **Man, Angry Over Daughter's Report Card, Shoots 14 Rounds inside Elementary School
School Shooting Prozac Antidepressant 1992-01-30 Michigan **School Teacher Shoots & Kills His Superintendent at School
School Shooting Anafranil Antidepressant 1988-05-20 Illinois **29 Year Old WOMAN Kills One Child: Wounds Five: Kills Self

cbrons
12-30-2012, 12:50 PM
Yes there is a correlation (but only for anti-depressants, not all classes of psychotropic drugs) But that doesn't mean that taking anti-depressants causes mass murder.

Most mass murderers are a priori mentally disturbed individuals, so it really is no surprise that they're on anti-depressants and anti-psychotics.

Also, what's a "mind-altering" medication?

truelies
12-30-2012, 01:14 PM
Yes there is a correlation (but only for anti-depressants, not all classes of psychotropic drugs) But that doesn't mean that taking anti-depressants causes mass murder.

Most mass murderers are a priori mentally disturbed individuals, so it really is no surprise that they're on anti-depressants and anti-psychotics.

Also, what's a "mind-altering" medication?

I have seen first hand enough IRL cases of teens who became utterly different people and frankly scary after starting on the anti-depressants. Did they have issues before starting on the drugs? Yeah........IF you consider being a strong-willed surly teen boy an 'issue'.

From my corner it looks like not a one of the school shooters would have done their deed had the anti-depressants never been ingested.

Sooooooo, will feeding your teen anti-depressants make him into a serial killer? Probably not..........BUT there is a small but REAL chance it might and at best the real miserly these drugs cause in teens simply does not justify the drive to make surly boys more docile.

truelies
12-30-2012, 01:16 PM
.........................
Most mass murderers are a priori mentally disturbed individuals, ............................


Not hardly- 99% of mass murderers are zealous fully rational individuals doing the work of State, Crime Family and/or Diety.

Ender
12-30-2012, 01:17 PM
Is there a correlation between mind-altering medications and school shootings?

Is the Pope Catholic?

Does a bear doo-doo in the woods?

cbrons
12-30-2012, 01:21 PM
Not hardly- 99% of mass murderers are zealous fully rational individuals doing the work of State, Crime Family and/or Diety.

You can be fully rational and still have significant psychopathology.

Not sure what you mean by "doing the work of State," etc.

cbrons
12-30-2012, 01:23 PM
I have seen first hand enough IRL cases of teens who became utterly different people and frankly scary after starting on the anti-depressants. Did they have issues before starting on the drugs? Yeah........IF you consider being a strong-willed surly teen boy an 'issue'.

From my corner it looks like not a one of the school shooters would have done their deed had the anti-depressants never been ingested.

Sooooooo, will feeding your teen anti-depressants make him into a serial killer? Probably not..........BUT there is a small but REAL chance it might and at best the real miserly these drugs cause in teens simply does not justify the drive to make surly boys more docile.

Really because I'm sure I've seen a great deal more people who take these drugs and if anything it does nothing to improve whatever problem they are taking it for.

SSRI anti-depressants likely work no better than placebo. There is evidence that they can increase suicidal tendency in some young children.

Kylie
12-30-2012, 01:25 PM
I.e; cops, military, CIA ops. That's what I think he meant by the state.

Zippyjuan
12-30-2012, 01:25 PM
Let's consider the proposal that "mind altering" drugs makes people into homocidal maniacs. How many people are currently taking such drugs? Probably millions. How many have gone on killing sprees? A very, very tiny few. If the medications were the causes, we should have hundreds of thousands if not millions of killers- but we don't. Which makes the converse more likely- that being that killers are more likely to be "crazy"to begin with and taking some medication due to that condition. That same personality disorder caused them to commit their crimes. The "psycho" came first- not the meds.

Natural Citizen
12-30-2012, 01:26 PM
I have seen first hand enough IRL cases of teens who became utterly different people and frankly scary after starting on the anti-depressants. Did they have issues before starting on the drugs? Yeah........IF you consider being a strong-willed surly teen boy an 'issue'.

From my corner it looks like not a one of the school shooters would have done their deed had the anti-depressants never been ingested.

Sooooooo, will feeding your teen anti-depressants make him into a serial killer? Probably not..........BUT there is a small but REAL chance it might and at best the real miserly these drugs cause in teens simply does not justify the drive to make surly boys more docile.

If you put all of the speak about whether or not such mind altering markets cause mass shootings for a time and really look in the other direction less discussed at the transhumanist market that is a monolithic industry militarily I think one could also surmise that the pharmaceitical industry annd a few psychiatrists are complicit in testing some of these reactions themselves on the public as simple guinea pigs before such application are used in other areas of ...lets say infrastructure.

But anyhoo...that's a little different direction but one that is very real if people care to research it. This is exactly why i made the transhumanism thread. It's very relevant. Perhaps even the larger aspect of the matter.

Ender
12-30-2012, 01:29 PM
Let's consider the proposal that "mind altering" drugs makes people into homocidal maniacs. How many people are currently taking such drugs? Probably millions. How many have gone on killing sprees? A very, very tiny few. If the medications were the causes, we should have hundreds of thousands if not millions of killers- but we don't. Which makes the converse more likely- that being that killers are more likely to be "crazy"to begin with and taking some medication due to that condition. That same personality disorder caused them to commit their crimes. The "psycho" came first- not the meds.

Not entirely true.

I've seen a lot of kids put on these drugs for simply being angry or not being able to stand public school.

The answer is to call it ADHD and depression and drug 'em.

cbrons
12-30-2012, 02:12 PM
Let's consider the proposal that "mind altering" drugs makes people into homocidal maniacs. How many people are currently taking such drugs? Probably millions. How many have gone on killing sprees? A very, very tiny few. If the medications were the causes, we should have hundreds of thousands if not millions of killers- but we don't. Which makes the converse more likely- that being that killers are more likely to be "crazy"to begin with and taking some medication due to that condition. That same personality disorder caused them to commit their crimes. The "psycho" came first- not the meds.

That's essentially what I was saying as well.

Want another scary perspective?

The dean at our medical school said that in self-reported surveys over 70% of medical students (future MDs) are on anti-depressants. Not sure if that was just at our school, though. At our orientation, a few students openly admitted to being on Prozac and other related anti-depressants because of how stressed out there were.

Peace Piper
12-30-2012, 02:27 PM
most definitely and the media used to talk about it.
Why don't they talk about it now?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-tc19XR5nk

even Michael Moore thinks it might be the drugs, not the guns.
This 2 1/2 min. vid really leaves the gun grabbers aghast. Their hero abandons them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpinCRaAQOk

This paper, available at the US GOV National Institutes of Health lays it out pretty well:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/
US National Institutes of Health: Antidepressants and Violence-problems at the Interface of Medicine & Law

Dr.David Healy (author of the paper above and interviewed in the first video above) turns out to be probably the worlds top expert on SSRI drugs. He's got a lot of good ideas about our health care industry:

His brand new book Pharmageddon - check out the reviews
http://www.amazon.com/Pharmageddon-David-Healy/dp/0520270983/

here's a free podcast featuring Dr. Healy:- October 2, 2012 Phamargeddon
http://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/jpr/id/2084251

Here's a sourced, sortable (location, drug, description) database that blows away everyone that takes the time to look at it and click around:
http://ssristories.com/index.php

Anti Federalist
12-30-2012, 09:24 PM
Let's consider the proposal that "mind altering" drugs makes people into homocidal maniacs. How many people are currently taking such drugs? Probably millions. How many have gone on killing sprees? A very, very tiny few. If the medications were the causes, we should have hundreds of thousands if not millions of killers- but we don't. Which makes the converse more likely- that being that killers are more likely to be "crazy"to begin with and taking some medication due to that condition. That same personality disorder caused them to commit their crimes. The "psycho" came first- not the meds.

Why are tens of millions of people on these drugs?

If the psycho came first, why are tens of millions of people going nuts?

Anti Federalist
12-30-2012, 10:36 PM
Allow me a re-post:


What is driving the need for these drugs?

Cognitive Dissonance is a term thrown about, too loosely I think. It is important to understand just what CG is.

It is the pain, upset, mental unbalance and discomfort caused by a rational person trying to adjust to Orwell's world, where one plus one equals three, or five, or nothing.

It is knowing that we have NOT always been at war with Eastasia.

Basically, these drugs are being used like camphor under the nose is used when dealing with a decomposed body.

They are being used to mask the stink of a dying society, to keep the semblance of sanity in people that smell the stink every day, and can neither acclimate themselves to it, nor properly identify what, and where, that stink is coming from.

Brian4Liberty
12-30-2012, 10:51 PM
Is there a correlation between mind-altering medications and school shootings?

IIRC, even the drug companies list violence and homicidal idealization as possible side effects of their drugs.

There are problems with the statistics from a scientific perspective, as there are no control groups. The real world "study group" consists of people with issues that have caused them to look for help from Doctors in the first place, thus the group has a bias. The drugs are not given to people who are "normal". A real study would give placebos to some patients, and the real drugs to others to see if there is a difference. In the big experiment that is the pharma-medical profession, they give the drugs to all patients, thus there is no placebo group for comparison.

pochy1776
12-30-2012, 11:13 PM
Really because I'm sure I've seen a great deal more people who take these drugs and if anything it does nothing to improve whatever problem they are taking it for.

SSRI anti-depressants likely work no better than placebo. There is evidence that they can increase suicidal tendency in some young children.

There is some debate with that statement.

pochy1776
12-30-2012, 11:15 PM
That's essentially what I was saying as well.

Want another scary perspective?

The dean at our medical school said that in self-reported surveys over 70% of medical students (future MDs) are on anti-depressants. Not sure if that was just at our school, though. At our orientation, a few students openly admitted to being on Prozac and other related anti-depressants because of how stressed out there were.
Med school will do that. It sucks. The only way to be happy is being a nerd or a gunner. I can't even fathom getting in.

Peace Piper
12-31-2012, 12:02 AM
IIRC, even the drug companies list violence and homicidal idealization as possible side effects of their drugs.

The "black box warning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box_warning)" for Prozac:


WARNING: Suicidality and Antidepressant Drugs

Antidepressants increased the risk compared to placebo of suicidal thinking and behavior (suicidality) in children, adolescents, and young adults in short-term studies of major depressive disorder (MDD) and other psychiatric disorders. Anyone considering the use of Prozac or any other antidepressant in a child, adolescent, or young adult must balance this risk with the clinical need. Short-term studies did not show an increase in the risk of suicidality with antidepressants compared to placebo in adults beyond age 24; there was a reduction in risk with antidepressants compared to placebo in adults aged 65 and older. Depression and certain other psychiatric disorders are themselves associated with increases in the risk of suicide. Patients of all ages who are started on antidepressant therapy should be monitored appropriately and observed closely for clinical worsening, suicidality, or unusual changes in behavior. Families and caregivers should be advised of the need for close observation and communication with the prescriber. Prozac is not approved for use in pediatric patients.





There are problems with the statistics from a scientific perspective, as there are no control groups. The real world "study group" consists of people with issues that have caused them to look for help from Doctors in the first place, thus the group has a bias. The drugs are not given to people who are "normal". A real study would give placebos to some patients, and the real drugs to others to see if there is a difference. In the big experiment that is the pharma-medical profession, they give the drugs to all patients, thus there is no placebo group for comparison.

Does this qualify? From the NIH Study (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/):


Summary of Evidence Found

Data from regulatory agencies

In paroxetine clinical trials, aggression and violence were commonly coded under the rubric of hostility. This coding term includes homicide, homicidal acts, and homicidal ideation as well as aggressive events and “conduct disorders”, but no homicides were reported from these trials. The material posted on the company Web site (http://www.gsk.com) suggests that these hostile behaviours in children primarily involved aggression rather than frank violence. When hostile events occurring in both adult and paediatric trials are summed, both on therapy and during the 30-day drug-free phase after taper had finished, 60 (0.65%) of 9,219 patients overall had hostile events. Table 1 shows the results [5].

In these trials, hostile events are found to excess in both adults and children on paroxetine compared with placebo, and are found across indications, and both on therapy and during withdrawal. The rates were highest in children with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), where the odds ratio of a hostile event was 17 times greater (95% confidence interval [CI], 2.22–130.0).

...Finally, in healthy volunteer studies, hostile events occurred in three of 271 (1.1%) volunteers taking paroxetine, compared with zero in 138 taking placebo [5]. Although not statistically significant, this finding is striking because hostile events are unusual in healthy volunteer trials, and this figure was higher than the rate reported in clinical populations above. GlaxoSmithKline ascribed these episodes to the fact that the volunteers were confined, although this applied to both paroxetine and placebo volunteers. One other healthy volunteer study has reported aggressive behaviour in one volunteer taking sertraline [8].

In data from sertraline paediatric trials submitted by Pfizer, aggression was the joint commonest cause for discontinuation from the two sertraline placebo-controlled trials in depressed children [9]. In these trials, eight of 189 patients randomised to sertraline discontinued for aggression, agitation, or hyperkinesis (a coding term for akathisia), compared with no dropouts for these reasons in 184 patients on placebo (95% CI, 1.72–infinity). When discontinuations for any manifestation of treatment-induced activation (suicidal ideation or attempts, aggression, agitation, hyperkinesis, or aggravated depression) were considered, there were 15 discontinuations on sertraline compared with two on placebo, a relative risk of 7.3 (95% CI, 1.70–31.5; p = 0.0015). The report of these studies does not include an analysis of these data [9]. In the only other placebo-controlled sertraline paediatric trial, undertaken in children and adolescents with OCD, there were ten dropouts out of 92 patients on sertraline, five of whom discontinued for behavioural activation, two for agitation, one for aggression, one for nervousness, and one for emotional lability. In comparison, there was one discontinuation for hyperkinesis out of a total of two dropouts from 95 patients on placebo [10].



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/

Antidepressants and Violence: Problems at the Interface of Medicine and Law
David Healy,* Andrew Herxheimer, and David B Menkes

RickyJ
12-31-2012, 12:27 AM
I don't know. But I don't think Adam Lanza killed anyone despite whatever he was taking if anything. However mind altering synthetic drugs and some natural drugs do cause some damage IMO.

RickyJ
12-31-2012, 12:30 AM
That's essentially what I was saying as well.

Want another scary perspective?

The dean at our medical school said that in self-reported surveys over 70% of medical students (future MDs) are on anti-depressants. Not sure if that was just at our school, though. At our orientation, a few students openly admitted to being on Prozac and other related anti-depressants because of how stressed out there were.

At least 70% of them are idiots then. It's either a bad medical school or it is a bad sign indeed.

coastie
12-31-2012, 10:35 AM
Really because I'm sure I've seen a great deal more people who take these drugs and if anything it does nothing to improve whatever problem they are taking it for.

SSRI anti-depressants likely work no better than placebo. There is evidence that they can increase suicidal tendency in some young children.

We're not talking about whether they work or not. They don't, everyone agrees with this. We're talking about the side effects of these drugs, especially withdrawal, and their correlation with over the top, sudden, brutal and violent death, especially school shootings. The side effects that pharmaceutical companies and the FDA cover up or downplay, the Doctors ignore, the media ignore, the parents ignore....until the net effect is most people reflexively dismiss side effects as having anything at all to do with these behaviors.

Zippyjuan
12-31-2012, 01:46 PM
Not entirely true.

I've seen a lot of kids put on these drugs for simply being angry or not being able to stand public school.

The answer is to call it ADHD and depression and drug 'em.

Did it turn them into homicidal maniacs?

Zippyjuan
12-31-2012, 01:48 PM
The "black box warning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box_warning)" for Prozac:







Does this qualify? From the NIH Study (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/):




http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/

Antidepressants and Violence: Problems at the Interface of Medicine and Law
David Healy,* Andrew Herxheimer, and David B Menkes

From the NIH study:

Although not statistically significant, this finding is striking because hostile events are unusual in healthy volunteer trials, and this figure was higher than the rate reported in clinical populations above.