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osan
12-28-2012, 02:10 PM
I do not have my UCRs before me and I am not recalling this item, so I would like to ask whether there are any reliable figures on what proportion of the total homicides committed with firearms are deemed "justifiable", "accidental" and "suicide" v. outright murder? I am looking to calculate the actual criminal homicide rate by firearm, as the routinely cited figures are complete bullshit.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

KingNothing
12-28-2012, 02:17 PM
I do not have my UCRs before me and I am not recalling this item, so I would like to ask whether there are any reliable figures on what proportion of the total homicides committed with firearms are deemed "justifiable", "accidental" and "suicide" v. outright murder? I am looking to calculate the actual criminal homicide rate by firearm, as the routinely cited figures are complete bullshit.

Sorry for the inconvenience.


I'd check out the NRA's, or any gun advocate's site, for these numbers.
What I've found is that the anti-gun nuts usually cite the "30,000+" gun deaths number, which includes suicide, justifiable homicide, etc. I'm relatively certain that the most accurate number is the one that shows 10,000-ish homicides and 14,000-ish suicides.

TonySutton
12-28-2012, 02:22 PM
there is a lot of data here

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-offense-data

not sure if it will have everything you are looking for

TonySutton
12-28-2012, 02:28 PM
also check here

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_03.pdf

page 81 (table 18) shows what you are looking for