Cory Booker: I'm not afraid of law-abiding gun owners

[AuH20]

This the second time he has openly deviated from the globalist manifesto which governs the democratic party. Keep it up Cory.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/24/booker-im-not-afraid-of-law-abiding-gun-owners/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-X4ynyu6t9M


Booker pushed for stronger background checks on people looking to purchase guns and said a key way to curb gun violence is to shut down secondary markets.

“I’m not afraid of law-abiding citizens who buy a gun,” he said. “Buy the guns you want. What the problem is in America right now is that a terrorist person who is on the no-fly list could go into the secondary market today and buy a weapon.”

“Criminals are killing people,” the mayor added. “Not law-abiding gun owners.”…

“Listen to me, the people dying in Chicago, the people dying in Newark are not being done with law-abiding gun owners,” Booker continued. “We do not need to go after the guns. A law-abiding mentally stable American, that’s not America’s problem.”

“We trace the weapons that come into my city,” the mayor added. “And when residents look to me and they say, ‘Stop the carnage, Cory,’ what I say is with the guns we’re tracing, I have no power to stop them coming into my city as (Chicago Mayor) Rahm (Emanuel) does them coming into Chicago. They’re coming from places that have free secondary markets where criminals and gun runners so easily buy weapons and pump them into communities like mine where it is easy for a person who is a criminal to get their hands on a gun.”

[tony m]

Terrorist person on the no fly list.

Terrorist person.

Those declassified DHS docs seem to vaguely compartmentalize lump sums of the population into categories aiming towards the terrorist niche.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Too much bullshit in that paragraph.



Booker pushed for stronger background checks on people looking to purchase guns


No thanks. That's the same as going after guns.



“I’m not afraid of law-abiding citizens who buy a gun,” he said.


As long as they purchase what his laws allow, under the conditions of his laws.




A law-abiding mentally stable American, that’s not America’s problem.”


They can take that in all sorts of directions.



“We trace the weapons that come into my city,” the mayor added. “And when residents look to me and they say, ‘Stop the carnage, Cory,’ what I say is with the guns we’re tracing, I have no power to stop them coming into my city as (Chicago Mayor) Rahm (Emanuel) does them coming into Chicago.


wtf does that mean? They trace illegal guns coming into the city, yet can't "stop" them. Those statements either don't match each other, or they allow and/or facilitate it.



They’re coming from places that have free secondary markets where criminals and gun runners so easily buy weapons and pump them into communities like mine where it is easy for a person who is a criminal to get their hands on a gun.”


So his answer is to close secondary markets elsewhere = gun control. If he traces guns into his city, they can take care of it there. It's working so well already.

[mz10]

I'm fine with background checks. I do agree that mentally ill people and criminals shouldn't be able to have guns. If that's the solution instead of banning assault weapons, I'm 100% happy with that.

That said, it all needs to be handled at the state and local level. No federal involvement.

[cbrons]

I'm fine with background checks. I do agree that mentally ill people and criminals shouldn't be able to have guns. If that's the solution instead of banning assault weapons, I'm 100% happy with that.

That said, it all needs to be handled at the state and local level. No federal involvement.

Whos mentally ill? Who determines that? I know people with severe mental illness, some who would be dangerous w a gun but many who'd probably be more responsible than average folks.

[paulbot24]

Excuse me Cory but why would anybody be afraid of a law-abiding gun owner?

[coastie]

Whos mentally ill? Who determines that? I know people with severe mental illness, some who would be dangerous w a gun but many who'd probably be more responsible than average folks.


Good question, seeing as how everyone has a diagnosable mental illness, as per DSM-5.

Id say anyone taking any SSRI, SNRI OR Anti-psychotic, no guns.

[NewRightLibertarian]

He's one of the more fair-minded liberal public figures. I don't agree with him on much, but he at least isn't a total piece of garbage and I believe he does what he thinks is right which is more than can be said about most politicians.

[AuH20]

He's one of the more fair-minded liberal public figures. I don't agree with him on much, but he at least isn't a total piece of garbage and I believe he does what he thinks is right which is more than can be said about most politicians.

Politicians like Booker and Wyden I can at least respect. They seem to get it more than their other corrupt brethren.

[69360]

You know at first I though he was only doing all he does as some giant publicity stunt. But slowly the guy is convincing me he is a decent person.

[jkob]

Booker has national ambitions. Remember there was a time when Obama was an anti-war pro-civil liberties constitutionalist.

[Dr.3D]

Excuse me Cory but why would anybody be afraid of a law-abiding gun owner?
For sure, those are the people who obey the law and don't do bad things. That's the point, laws don't keep bad people (law breakers) from doing bad things. They can make all the laws they want and ban everything under the sun, but that won't keep law breakers from doing things that are against those laws.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

They seem to get it more than their other corrupt brethren.


The guy who claims he traces illegal guns, knows where they're coming from, but doesn't stop them on the way in or afterward?? Then he goes on to suggest more gun control elsewhere as a solution?

I don't know that he's not a decent person, but he's just presenting a soft sell instead instead of fear mongering emotional outbursts. He says what he's doing isn't working, then implies it should be done elsewhere for his own perceived benefit.

[Pericles]

Excuse me Cory but why would anybody be afraid of a law-abiding gun owner?

I would like to think that tyrants would be afraid of law abiding gun owners, as they are the legitimate target for the same.

[Danke]

I'm fine with background checks. I do agree that mentally ill people and criminals shouldn't be able to have guns. If that's the solution instead of banning assault weapons, I'm 100% happy with that.

That said, it all needs to be handled at the state and local level.

I deem you mentally ill person.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

I would like to think that tyrants would be afraid of law abiding gun owners, as they are the legitimate target for the same.


They should fear moral and ethical gun owners. "Law abiding" gun owners are subject to whatever unjust law they pass, so "law abiding" doesn't mean much in that context.

If guns were made illegal tomorrow, or required a payment of 1k per year per gun, then "law abiding" just changed. Nothing changed regarding a moral and ethical gun owner subject to the changed laws.

[mz10]

Whos mentally ill? Who determines that? I know people with severe mental illness, some who would be dangerous w a gun but many who'd probably be more responsible than average folks.

Severe schizophrenics. I have to think that's what this kid had, not just Aspergers. Some mental illnesses make people violent and erratic, people like that shouldn't have guns.

[mz10]

And of course, the doctors making the determination have to be privately funded. I realize it's a fine line to tread, but I think it's light-years better than banning assault weapons or banning concealed carry.

[Nirvikalpa]

You know at first I though he was only doing all he does as some giant publicity stunt. But slowly the guy is convincing me he is a decent person.

He's as decent as a person a politician could be. During and after Hurricane Sandy he was hand-delivering items to people's address, and he even opened his own home to his neighbors/Newark residents who lost their power, wanted to cook, needed to charge phones, etc etc. Here's an article on it: http://politicker.com/2012/11/inside-cory-bookers-house-afte-hurricane-sandy/

[Confederate]

He's as decent as a person a politician could be. During and after Hurricane Sandy he was hand-delivering items to people's address, and he even opened his own home to his neighbors/Newark residents who lost their power, wanted to cook, needed to charge phones, etc etc. Here's an article on it: http://politicker.com/2012/11/inside-cory-bookers-house-afte-hurricane-sandy/

Politicians do a lot of "nice" things to improve their image, especially when they're considering running for Senate in 2014.

[cbrons]

Severe schizophrenics. I have to think that's what this kid had, not just Aspergers. Some mental illnesses make people violent and erratic, people like that shouldn't have guns.

Key word = some. There's no evidence that this kid had anything other than mild form of Autism spectrum that I've read from anyone.

That said, there are people who've been patients in mental hospitals who would pose 0 threat to anyone with a firearm. Specifically the people with severe anxiety/OCD - in fact some severe OCD patients I've met I would trust with a nuclear bomb because most of them are ultra safety freaks.

[BAllen]

That said, it all needs to be handled at the state and local level. No federal involvement.

That part of your posting is true. Shrink the federal government. It's what Ron & Rand focus on. There is tremendous waste at the federal level. It's redundant to handle these things at the federal level.

[cbrons]

And of course, the doctors making the determination have to be privately funded. I realize it's a fine line to tread, but I think it's light-years better than banning assault weapons or banning concealed carry.

I see what you are saying, but there would have to be some type of protection clause for the physician or psychologist involved. Otherwise, there would be no incentive for them to clear anyone even with a harmless mental illness who came before them. Why take the liability when they can just push deny?

[cbrons]

Id say anyone taking any SSRI, SNRI OR Anti-psychotic, no guns.

Heh good to see the "liberty" minded people advocating for invasive forms of big government, where the goons get to check your medical records anytime you go buy a firearm.

[Nirvikalpa]

Politicians do a lot of "nice" things to improve their image, especially when they're considering running for Senate in 2014.

Some people do things just for the sake of doing good - good Christianly people, you know. Not everyone has some devilish agenda... and if he does, that's on his own conscience and not really my problem.

[John F Kennedy III]

This is far better than I'd expect from the left.

[Confederate]

Some people do things just for the sake of doing good - good Christianly people, you know. Not everyone has some devilish agenda... and if he does, that's on his own conscience and not really my problem.

If he does have a devilish agenda (which he most certainly does) it is your problem as a resident of NJ. If he does succeed in becoming a US Senator as he plans, it makes it a national problem.

[Nirvikalpa]

If he does have a devilish agenda (which he most certainly does) it is your problem as a resident of NJ. If he does succeed in becoming a US Senator as he plans, it makes it a national problem.

When you actually live in the United States, you can sit there and lecture me on how it's my problem. For now, I will praise good behavior as I see fit whether it be by a democrat, republican, socialist, libertarian, or anything else, thank you.

[69360]

Politicians do a lot of "nice" things to improve their image, especially when they're considering running for Senate in 2014.

Yeah, I know. But either he is the king of PR or he's real.

He stuck his neck out as a democrat here to say what he thought was right and that combined with all the good he's done on a personal level maybe he's ok as a person. I'm sure I don't agree with him on policy.

[BenIsForRon]

Cory Booker has also done a lot of work on getting ex-con's rehabilitated and employed by reaching out to local businesses. I think he's a good guy with a much more thoughtful, forward-thinking agenda than most politicians. He's definitely one of the good democrats in my book.

[tod evans]

I'm fine with background checks. I do agree that mentally ill people and criminals shouldn't be able to have guns. If that's the solution instead of banning assault weapons, I'm 100% happy with that.

That said, it all needs to be handled at the state and local level. No federal involvement.

Those are two really broad categories of our citizenry....

Which of the several million "convicted felons" do you wish to continue depriving of their right to own legal firearms?

Which of the several million people who have sought counseling should be deprived of their right to own legal firearms?

You've got the "keep the feds out" part 100% correct..

[TonySutton]

Between DSM-5 and 3 Felonies a Day, no one would be allowed to own a gun in America :(