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jay_dub
12-24-2012, 08:33 AM
New Pentagon effort will send Army teams to Africa as terror threat grows

WASHINGTON – A U.S. Army brigade will begin sending small teams into as many as 35 African nations early next year, part of an intensifying Pentagon effort to train countries to battle extremists and give the U.S. a ready and trained force to dispatch to Africa if crises requiring the U.S. military emerge.

The teams will be limited to training and equipping efforts, and will not be permitted to conduct military operations without specific, additional approvals from the secretary of defense.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/24/new-pentagon-effort-will-send-army-teams-to-africa-as-terror-threat-grows/

Original_Intent
12-24-2012, 08:51 AM
Oh, sounds perfectly safe and legit...I mean they require specific, additional approval from the SECRETARY OF DEFENSE! What could possibly go wrong?

/sarc

ghengis86
12-24-2012, 08:54 AM
Oh, sounds perfectly safe and legit...I mean they require specific, additional approval from the SECRETARY OF DEFENSE! What could possibly go wrong?

/sarc

Lol, first thing I thought too. The SecDef must approve?? Then it must be super-serial!

Confederate
12-24-2012, 09:01 AM
Lol, first thing I thought too. The SecDef must approve?? Then it must be super-serial!

Didn't you hear? The executive branch has the power to declare war.

tangent4ronpaul
12-24-2012, 09:12 AM
McKenna acknowledged the challenge, but said the military has to tap its conventional fighting forces for this task because there aren't enough special operations forces to meet the global training needs. He said there will be as many as a dozen different training segments between February and September, each designed to provide tailored instruction for the particular teams.

The mission for the 2nd Brigade -- known as the "Dagger Brigade" -- will begin in the spring and will pave the way for Army brigades to be assigned next to U.S. Pacific Command and then to U.S. European Command over the next year. The brigade is receiving its regular combat training first, and then will move on to the more specific instruction needed for the deployments, such as language skills, cultural information and other data about the African nations.

Yep!, this will end badly...

-t

acptulsa
12-24-2012, 09:21 AM
Oh, sounds perfectly safe and legit...I mean they require specific, additional approval from the SECRETARY OF DEFENSE! What could possibly go wrong?

/sarc

Yeah, because if the Secretary of Defense does things we don't want done, well, we can just vote his ass out of office! Problem solved!

Oh, wait...

Seraphim
12-24-2012, 09:32 AM
Has nothing to do with terrorists and everything to do with China.

tangent4ronpaul
12-24-2012, 09:48 AM
Africa is a continent that has known peace for perhaps 3 weeks in all of recorded history. There is always a war going on there someplace. So we are going to send regular infantry soldiers to 35-40 countries, many of which hate each others guts, after putting them through a quickie how to be a military adviser class with all the training on our end taking less than a year.

Your average SF soldier is a Sargent. has to have been in for a couple of years before he can volunteer for the school, has to be a ranger before he can volunteer, goes through about a year of the basic school, then a year of training specific to their MOS and then goes to a year of language school. After several years, you end up with someone that is basically a drill Sargent and knows how to instruct locals, who often have no formal education, how to, say, operate, maintain and use effectively any light weapon still in use, including quite a few dating back to WWII. And to do this in their local language. They also have to understand local taboos, for example, sticking your thumb up as if to flag down a ride or say "right on", is the local equivalent of flipping the bird to someone in the US, in parts of the continent.

That the army is searching it's ranks for anyone that grew up in or lived in these various countries as subject experts says that they are not ready to do this and it's looking to be a train wreck!

-t

sailingaway
12-24-2012, 09:55 AM
because, what could go wrong?

sigh....

awake
12-24-2012, 09:59 AM
Evil needs global "markets" as well.

phill4paul
12-24-2012, 10:01 AM
If the leaders in this regions wish to have their forces trained then they need to hire Blackwater/Xi. American taxpayers footing the bill again.

tangent4ronpaul
12-24-2012, 10:09 AM
If the leaders in this regions wish to have their forces trained then they need to hire Blackwater/Xi. American taxpayers footing the bill again.

If they hired Blackwater/Xi the US taxpayers would still pay the bill via a foreign aid grant. The only difference is that it would be more expensive than having US troops do the job.

-t

TheTexan
12-24-2012, 11:14 AM
and give the U.S. a ready and trained force to dispatch to Africa if crises requiring the U.S. military emerge.

And by "crises requiring the U.S. military" they mean either:
1) crises that threaten their oil
2) crises that threaten their central banks
3) any crises that meets their random whims and/or fancies, for "democracy" or whatnot

TheTexan
12-24-2012, 11:16 AM
If they hired Blackwater/Xi the US taxpayers would still pay the bill via a foreign aid grant. The only difference is that it would be more expensive than having US troops do the job.

-t

But then our military overlords get to proclaim that they don't have soldiers in that country. Always a bonus!

Pericles
12-24-2012, 11:24 AM
Conventional units suck at SF missions, and contractors suck at conventional unit missions. Massive fail in the making. Just another recruiting opportunity for Oathkeepers.

phill4paul
12-24-2012, 11:30 AM
If they hired Blackwater/Xi the US taxpayers would still pay the bill via a foreign aid grant. The only difference is that it would be more expensive than having US troops do the job.

-t

Not if we quit giving foreign aid grants. ;)

TheTexan
12-24-2012, 11:41 AM
Not if we quit giving foreign aid grants. ;)

I just realized that of all our goals as a movement, this should be the easiest, but we can't even convince the people in this country to stop giving away money to other countries, even when we're 16 trillion in debt.

Ya, politics is going to work. LOL

luctor-et-emergo
12-24-2012, 12:24 PM
Has nothing to do with terrorists and everything to do with China.

This.
First thing I thought about.
Africa is still full of resources.

ninepointfive
12-24-2012, 12:37 PM
I just realized that of all our goals as a movement, this should be the easiest, but we can't even convince the people in this country to stop giving away money to other countries, even when we're 16 trillion in debt.

Ya, politics is going to work. LOL

look man, all we need is top notch training from C4L and we're set! :p

Pauls' Revere
12-24-2012, 12:45 PM
Has nothing to do with terrorists and everything to do with China.

How so?

KingRobbStark
12-24-2012, 12:51 PM
Are we going to free them too?