Celebrities Call to Ban Guns From Government [VIDEO]

[paul-for-liberty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJhWVf4e4-s

[tttppp]

I cant see the video, but thats not that bad of an idea.

[aGameOfThrones]

Lol hahaha

[presence]

Nice!

[Captain Shays]

I don't get it. What they are saying doesn't make any sense to me at all. It's so unrealistic that my mind just can't grasp it.

[Danke]

I don't get it. What they are saying doesn't make any sense to me at all. It's so unrealistic that my mind just can't grasp it.

It is a parody.

[Confederate]

I'm sure criminals are glad to know every single one of those liberal douchebag pieces of shit are unarmed.

[Antischism]

Never mind.

[Confederate]

What is it with you making everything a party issue? The constant "LIBRULZ THIS, LIBRULZ THAT," is what puts some people off from ever listening or being open to the message of liberty.

It's pretty safe to say that Hollywood actors making a video in favor of disarming Americans are progressive liberals. I never mentioned any party though, there are plenty of those in the GOP as well as in the Democratic Party.


Then again, you have Jesse Helms in your signature and a laughable quote that only makes your username and image even more stereotypical.

Jesse Helms was an American hero and patriot.

[Antischism]

It's pretty safe to say that Hollywood actors making a video in favor of disarming Americans are progressive liberals. I never mentioned any party though, there are plenty of those in the GOP as well as in the Democratic Party.

Why can't it just be "stupid people" and not "GODDAMN LIBRULZ" is all I'm saying. I don't really want to make a huge issue of it which is why I deleted my post, but it kind of makes me upset to see it since I know people who get turned off by that kind of thing. I think in some cases, they would otherwise be more open to listening.

[torchbearer]

can we make a petition to call for the ban of celebrities? after all, all the animals on this farm are equal... right?

[Confederate]

Why can't it just be "stupid people" and not "GODDAMN LIBRULZ" is all I'm saying. I don't really want to make a huge issue of it which is why I deleted my post, but it kind of makes me upset to see it since I know people who get turned off by that kind of thing.

There are stupid people, who don't choose to be stupid, they just weren't born very bright.

Then there are liberals, who actively choose to be stupid and ignorant.

[ClydeCoulter]

There are stupid people, who don't choose to be stupid, they just weren't born very bright.

Then there are liberals, who actively choose to be stupid and ignorant.

Yea, that ought to attract more into the liberty movement. (/sarc, in case it was not properly taken)

[cbrons]

Yea, that ought to attract more into the liberty movement. (/sarc, in case it was not properly taken)

He's right. "Liberals" (or "progressives") in America today refers to leftists. They are by far the biggest group of hypocrites and scum on the American political spectrum. Contrary to what most think though, it includes the majority of Republicans (what we call neo-cons).

Left-wing = Collectivism
Right-wing = Individualism

This was all articulated by Murray Rothbard in "Betrayal of the American Right" and by Ludwig von Mises in "Omnipotent Government."

Yes I know when you hear people say "liberals bad, liberals suck, liberals dumb, etc." it is usually by some parrot on Faux News or Neo-Con (left-wing) talk radio, but the term can still be used to describe the exact opposite of where we stand. Sadly we used to be the "liberals" until the leftists co-opted that term at the turn of the last century (again, covered by Rothbard).

[Confederate]

He's right. "Liberals" (or "progressives") in America today refers to leftists. They are by far the biggest group of hypocrites and scum on the American political spectrum. Contrary to what most think though, it includes the majority of Republicans (what we call neo-cons).


Liberal progressives make up the vast majority of both parties.

Those who call themselves social conservatives in the Republican Party are usually fiscal liberals, which makes their so-called "social conservatism" hypocritical because they value the state more than they do family, community and Church.

[John of Des Moines]

Ask a candidate this: If you had the power to either prohibit the possession of weapons by the people or by government agents which one would you chose and why?

[torchbearer]

Ask a candidate this: If you had the power to either prohibit the possession of weapons by the people or by government agents which one would you chose and why? I like.
If I could ever ask a question in a debate, that would be the one.

[shane77m]

LOL

+rep

[MelissaWV]

Ask a candidate this: If you had the power to either prohibit the possession of weapons by the people or by government agents which one would you chose and why?

I like it, and I know your motivation, but I can already see how the answer would be framed.

"I'm not sure I understand the question. Government agents? You mean like the police and our military? I think they are people, too, and obviously have a right to bear arms. I have a profound respect for our ladies in gentlemen in uniform --- both at home and abroad... "

[seraphson]

So around the 0:48 mark they talk about "no more list of names". Would that be...*cough* El Presidente's KILL LIST? Gee, I'm getting the hunch that it isn't. In addition the Lew Rockwell blog makes a damn good point:

"They left out Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia. I "wonder" why?" I guess that means if you're brown and/or follow Islam you can just get fucked. Something I'd never think I'd indirectly hear from socialists/collectivists/hypocrites that are so pro "civil rights" and for "equality" (sarcasm).

The title of the blog post also is also appropriately titled "So This Is Where the Anti-War Left Went". I also wondered where they went after Bush took a hike and their Monarch got the thrown.

[itshappening]

So around the 0:48 mark they talk about "no more list of names". Would that be...*cough* El Presidente's KILL LIST? Gee, I'm getting the hunch that it isn't. In addition the Lew Rockwell blog makes a damn good point:

"They left out Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia. I "wonder" why?" I guess that means if you're brown and/or follow Islam you can just get fucked. Something I'd never think I'd indirectly hear from a socialist/collectivist/hypocrite (sarcasm).

The title of the blog post also is also appropriately titled "So This Is Where the Anti-War Left Went". I also wondered where they went after Bush took a hike and their Monarch got the thrown.

Instead of being anti-war they're now anti-constitution.

Liberals love a cause to rally around and a villain to target (no more Bush).

http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/13576/large/NRAtabloid.jpg?1356268338

[roho76]

We should make a list of all these actors/songwriters and post it all over the intertubes to boycott their stuff since most of them glorify and profit from violence in entertainment. If anybody knows the names of them and maybe any films/songs that they are in where they glorify violence.

[Neil Desmond]

I wanted to see what kind of comments there were for the original video "Demand A Plan to End Gun Violence" and all I see is this: "Comments are disabled for this video." Ironic how they only want their message (whatever that is) to be heard but don't want anyone else to be heard. I do demand a plan to end all violence (not just gun violence); part of that plan would be to quit forcing law-abiding people to be defenseless by imposing gun bans and restrictions.

[phill4paul]

We should make a list of all these actors/songwriters and post it all over the intertubes to boycott their stuff since most of them glorify and profit from violence in entertainment. If anybody knows the names of them and maybe any films/songs that they are in where they glorify violence.

Actors from the original video....

John Hamm: Sucker Punch

Jamie Foxx: Collateral

Chris Rock: Lethal Weapon 4, Bad Company

Julianne Moore: Hannibal

Camaron Diaz: Gangs of New York

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/search.php?searchid=7461119

[EgoistX]

Here's a quick vid I put together showcasing these socially conscious "artists'" greatest hits...er shots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OayyLQi6vE

[Shane Harris]

Dammit Ron Swanson. For Shame.

[Confederate]

Dammit Ron Swanson. For Shame.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who was extremely disappointed at that.

[Origanalist]

Here's a quick vid I put together showcasing these socially conscious "artists'" greatest hits...er shots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OayyLQi6vE

Excellent.

[green73]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IJhWVf4e4-s

[FrankRep]

Edit: I thought you posted this video.

Demand A Plan to End Gun Violence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64G5FfG2Xpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64G5FfG2Xpg


My Bad.


It's the same old story....


http://cnsnews.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/medium/images/64744.jpg
Author, screenwriter and commentator Andrew Klavan spoke with CNSNews.com on Monday about conservatives coming out of the closet in Hollywood to create entertainment that reflects traditional American values.


Screenwriter Says Hollywood Conservatives ‘Have to Meet in Secret’ and ‘Talk in Whispers’ (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/screenwriter-says-hollywood-conservatives-have-meet-secret-and-talk-whispers)


CNS News
April 26, 2010

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Hollywood Party: How Communism Seduced the American Film Industry in the 1930s and 1940s (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0761521666/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217153&creative=399349&creativeASIN=0761521666)
- Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley, 1998

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Communism in Hollywood: The Moral Paradoxes of Testimony, Silence, and Betrayal (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0810869489/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217153&creative=399349&creativeASIN=0810869489)
- Alan Casty, 2009

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[acptulsa]

So, Frank, you consider the vid in the OP to be a communist plot? Just a bunch of pinko celebs trying to end these wars for the greater good of the collective? A bunch of well meaning idiots trying--wittingly or unwittingly--to further Commie China's agenda? Was that your point?

I say if Commie China wants us out of the way so they can kill children all over the world, well, at least that'll be an improvement. When I was a kid, the communists were the bad guys, and despised the world over. Now we're the bad guys, and despised the world over. I liked it better the way it was before.

[Danke]

So, Frank, you consider the vid in the OP to be a communist plot? Just a bunch of pinko celebs trying to end these wars for the greater good of the collective? A bunch of well meaning idiots trying--wittingly or unwittingly--to further Commie China's agenda? Was that your point?

I say if Commie China wants us out of the way so they can kill children all over the world, well, at least that'll be an improvement. When I was a kid, the communists were the bad guys, and despised the world over. Now we're the bad guys, and despised the world over. I liked it better the way it was before.

It is a parody. They want to disarm Americans.

[FrankRep]

So, Frank, you consider the vid in the OP to be a communist plot?


Every Communist/Socialist country has used Gun Control to dominate and control its citizens. I say they're following a standard blueprint.


Innocents Betrayed - The History of Gun Control (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmKT43j4Tc)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmKT43j4Tc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmKT43j4Tc

[FrankRep]

So, Frank, you consider the vid in the OP to be a communist plot? Just a bunch of pinko celebs trying to end these wars for the greater good of the collective? A bunch of well meaning idiots trying--wittingly or unwittingly--to further Commie China's agenda? Was that your point?

I say if Commie China wants us out of the way so they can kill children all over the world, well, at least that'll be an improvement. When I was a kid, the communists were the bad guys, and despised the world over. Now we're the bad guys, and despised the world over. I liked it better the way it was before.

I thought this video was posted:


Demand A Plan to End Gun Violence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64G5FfG2Xpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64G5FfG2Xpg

[acptulsa]

It is a parody. They want to disarm Americans.

Yes, the vid above is obviously somewhat of a parody. Certainly turning the disarmament arguments back on the government is a twist that has its irony. Yes, there are many in Hollywood that would be happy to disarm us all, if they could. Indeed, some of the very celebrities in this very video might be among them. But whether or not they call attention to the cause of peace by parodying the gun control debate, they are two seperate issues.

But characterizing a call for peace in our time as a Communist Plot is the sort of knee jerk, unreasonable reaction that keeps us in these messes. We could have been out from under the albatros of Vietnam years earlier but for the persistent notion that pulling out was the same as letting the commie bastards win. The truth was, us fighting that quagmire was one of the best things that ever happened to them.

If I wanted this nation to crumble to dust, I would do everything I could think of to keep us in all of these splendid little wars until the currency went the way of Zimbabwe's and our economy collapsed completely under the weight of it all.

Now there's a communist plot for you.

[FrankRep]

Yes, the vid above is obviously somewhat of a parody. Certainly turning the disarmament arguments back on the government is a twist that has its irony.

Usually the "Anti-War" Left is only "Anti-War" when we're fighting a Communist country.

Example:


Wikipedia:

Soviet influence on the peace movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_influence_on_the_peace_movement)


During the Cold War (1947–1991), when the Soviet Union and the USA were engaged in an arms race, the Soviet Union promoted its foreign policy through the World Peace Council and other front organizations. It has been claimed that it also influenced non-aligned peace groups in the West.


The World Peace Council


Soviet foreign peace propaganda was led by the World Peace Council (WPC), an organization said by Richard Felix Staar to have received $63 million in Soviet funding. It organized international peace conferences which condemned western armaments and weapons tests but refrained from criticizing Russian arms. For example, in 1956 it condemned the Suez war but not the Russian invasion of Hungary.

The WPC tried to use non-aligned peace organizations to spread the Soviet point of view. In the 1950s, there was limited co-operation between non-aligned peace groups and the WPC, but western delegates who tried to criticise the Soviet Union at WPC conferences were often shouted down. This led them to dissociate themselves from the WPC. In 1953, the International Liaison Committee of Organizations for Peace stated that it had "no association with the World Peace Council". In 1956, the German section of War Resisters International condemned the WPC for its failure to respond to Soviet H-bomb tests. In Sweden, Aktionsgruppen Mot Svensk Atombomb discouraged its members from participating in communist-led peace committees. In Britain, CND advised local groups in 1958 not to participate in a forthcoming WPC conference. In the USA, SANE rejected WPC appeals for co-operation. The WPC attempted to co-opt the eminent peace campaigner Bertrand Russell, much to his annoyance, and he refused to associate with them. As a result of confrontation between western and Soviet delegates at the 1962 World Congress for Peace and Disarmament, organised by the WPC, forty non-aligned organizations decided to form a new international body, the International Confederation for Disarmament and Peace, to which Soviet delegates were not invited.

In 1980, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence received reports that six peace groups were "closely connected" with the World Peace Council:



* the Christian Peace Conference, which received $210,000 from Soviet sources;
* the International Institute for Peace, which received $260,000;
* International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, which the Committee said had "overlapping membership and similar policies" to the WPC;
* the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs and
* the Dartmouth Conferences, both of which the Committee said were used by Soviet delegates to promote Soviet propaganda; and
* the Esperantist Movement for World Peace, which was said to have had had a "special slot" in the WPC.


However, Joseph Rotblat, one of the leaders of the Pugwash movement, said in his 1998 Bertrand Russell Peace Lecture that there were a few participants in the conferences from the Soviet Union "who were obviously sent to push the party line, but the majority were genuine scientists and behaved as such"; and the World Esperanto Movement for Peace, being most strongly represented in Hungary and East Germany, was not really part of the Western peace movement.

Following the large peace demonstrations in Europe in October and November 1981, US President Ronald Reagan said that "those are all sponsored by a thing called the World Peace Council, which is bought and paid for by the Soviet Union". The Soviet defector Vladimir Bukovsky claimed that the "Soviets ... were running the whole show", and that they co-ordinated the demonstrations at the 1980 World Parliament of Peoples for Peace in Sofia. The peace activist E.P.Thompson said that he had never met anyone who had attended the Sofia conference. Dr Julian Lewis, a British Conservative MP, claimed that it was attended by the CND treasurer, Mick Elliott. The Soviet Peace Committee, a Soviet government organization, is said by the Russian defector and double agent Sergei Tretyakov to have funded and organized demonstrations in Europe against US bases. After mass demonstrations in West Germany in 1981, an official investigation turned up circumstantial evidence but no absolute proof of KGB involvement and western intelligence experts believed that the mass movement in opposition to NATO missiles in Europe at that time was probably not Soviet-inspired. The Soviet Peace Committee, a Soviet government organization, is said to have funded and organized demonstrations in Europe against US bases.

In testimony before the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the FBI claimed that a Communist-front group, the U.S. Peace Council, was among the organizers of a large 1982 peace protest in New York City, but said that the KGB had not manipulated the American movement "significantly."


Wider Soviet influence


Some writers have suggested that the influence of the Soviet Union reached beyond the World Peace Council. An analysis of Soviet attempts to influence Western peace movements was presented by Staar in his book Foreign Policies of the Soviet Union, in which he said that the goal of such movements was to "spread Soviet propaganda themes and create false impression of public support for the foreign policies of Soviet Union." Non-communist peace movements without overt ties to the USSR, he said, were "virtually controlled" by it and most of their supporters - so-called "useful idiots" - were unwitting instruments of Soviet propaganda.

Russian GRU defector Stanislav Lunev said in his autobiography that "the GRU and the KGB helped to fund just about every antiwar movement and organization in America and abroad," and that during the Vietnam War the USSR gave $1 billion to American anti-war movements, more than it gave to the VietCong, although he did not mention any organization by name. Lunev described this as a "hugely successful campaign and well worth the cost". A US State Department official estimated that $600 million may have been spent on the peace offensive up to 1983.

Oleg Kalugin, a former KGB general, said that the KGB ran "all sorts of congresses, peace congresses, youth congresses, festivals, women's movements, trade union movements, campaigns against U.S. missiles in Europe, campaigns against neutron weapons" and that "all sorts of forgeries and faked material - [were] targeted at politicians, the academic community, at [the] public at large," although he did not name any organizations either.

According to the Danish Ministry of Justice, the KGB promised to help finance advertisements signed by prominent Danish artists who wanted Scandinavia to be declared a nuclear-free zone. In November 1981, Norway expelled a suspected KGB agent who had offered bribes to Norwegians to get them to write letters to newspapers denouncing the deployment of new NATO missiles.

There have been reports of Soviet attempts to influence scientific debate about the effects of nuclear war. In 1985 Time magazine noted "the suspicions of some Western scientists that the nuclear winter scenario was promoted by Moscow to give antinuclear groups in the U.S. and Europe some fresh ammunition against America's arms buildup." Journalist Pete Earley reported in his book Comrade J claims by Sergei Tretyakov that some time between 1979 and 1982 nuclear winter was invented by the KGB at the bidding of Yuri Andropov and foisted on the west shortly after NATO approved the deployment of Pershing II missiles. Tretyakov says that two un-named fraudulent papers about global cooling were commissioned by the KGB, one alleged to be by physicist Kirill Kondratyev about dust storms in the Karakum Desert, the other alleged to be by climatologist Georgii Golitsyn with mathematicians Nikita Moiseyev and Vladimir Alexandrov about dust storms after a nuclear war. Tretyakov says that the KGB suspected that Western scientists would not believe the "ridiculous" reports in these bogus papers, so they were never published, and the KGB resorted instead to "covert active measures" to spread their findings. He claims that "Information from the study's key findings was distributed by KGB officers to their contacts in peace, anti-nuclear, disarmament, and environmental organisations in an effort to get these groups to publicize the propagandists' script." Tretyakov says that the KGB "targeted" the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences journal, Ambio. According to Earley, in 1982, an editor at Ambio asked Nobel laureate Paul Crutzen to write about the impact of nuclear blast on the atmosphere. Earley is critical of Carl Sagan's role in the dissemination of the idea of nuclear winter but he does not claim that he was used by the KGB. However, Nigel West in a review of Comrade J draws from Earley's account the conclusion that the KGB's propaganda offensive was "led by Carl Sagan". Despite Tretyakov's claims about KGB covert measures between 1979 and 1982, US scientists had been publishing reports on similar topics since the 1960s. Starley L. Thompson of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, Colorado, said that the nuclear winter model had been developed in the United States in the early 1970s. Kondratyev's work on dust storms was published in the USA in 1976. Work on the effects of nuclear war had been initiated by Ambio in 1980 and in 1981 the United States National Research Council had set up a study panel on the dust effects of nuclear explosions.

[MelissaWV]

The end music was a wee bit offputting, but that response video was very nice.

[roho76]

So I started this the other day and haven't' had a chance to post it until now. I will keep updating it so it can be shoved up the collective asses of all these asses. :)
Put up or shut up, right. I say before these guys can go around running their mouths off about gun control, they have to donate all the money they have made of of these films to the families of the victims of that school massacre.


Jamie Fox:
Collateral
Law Abiding Citizen
Miami Vice
Jarhead
Stealth


Jason Batemen:
Hit and Run
Horrible Bosses (about killing your boss)
Smoking Aces
Hancock
State of Play
A Taste for Killing
Right to Kill? (about mass murderers)


Paul Rudd:
Two Days (Glorifies killing yourself on camera)
Gen-X Cops 2: Metal Mayhem
Romeo + Juliet (The Leonardo version) Nuff said
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers


Michelle Williams:
Shutter Island
Blue Valentine (glorifies domestic violence)
Deception
Incendiary
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later
Killing Mr. Griffin


Jeremy Renner:
The Bourne Legacy
The Avengers
Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol
Thor
The Town
PRETTY MUCH EVERY MOVIE THIS GUY EVER MADE


Amanda Peet:
The Whole Nine Yards (including all sequels)
What Doesn't Kill You
Battle for Terra (Children's cartoon)
Syriana
Identity
Changing Lanes
High Crimes


Jon Hamm:
Sucker Punch
The Town
The A Team
We Were Soldiers


Jessica Alba:
Sin City: A Dame to Kill For
Machete Kills (violent, Robert Rodriguez film)
Machete