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itshappening
12-21-2012, 12:51 PM
Committee chairmen were engaging their rank and file, and whip team members were asked to speak to every member with whom they had a personal relationship, whether it be a delegation colleague or just a friend.

“This is a point where his speakership’s on the line,” the member said regarding Boehner. “It’s a big vote and we want to be able to deliver for our speaker.”

At the same time, the member said the names of those who vote against the measure are being noted, an ominous sign after leaders recently pulled four GOP members from their plum committee assignments, apparently in retribution for not hewing the party line.

“You don’t think that list is going to be around for a long time and you need something from the speaker?” the member said. “In this business, if you can’t be here when your friend is in a fight like this, he’s not your friend.”

Even though Senate Democrats vowed they would not take up the measure and Obama has threatened to veto it, the vote was seen as important because Boehner cast it as not just a show of strength to Democrats but a dose of reality for his conference.

“He’s trying to condition the conference for what’s ahead. This isn’t going to be the last big negotiation we’re going to have,” the member said. “Some of these people are going to have to learn you can’t have absolute victories with a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate. If you think this is bad, wait until you get to tax reform.”

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They don't seem to learn do they? We don't care about your threats.

torchbearer
12-21-2012, 12:54 PM
the tighter they clinch the fist in an effort to extort their caucus, the more members will slip through their fingers.
Boner is done.

mz10
12-21-2012, 01:03 PM
Jim Jordan for speaker

CaptUSA
12-21-2012, 01:04 PM
Boehner is an idiot. Instead of fighting his own side, he could have come out strong against the President. He was afraid his party was going to get blamed if they couldn't get a deal. Now, he's going to get blamed anyway. Stupid. He tried to find some middle ground to get a deal done. Dumb.

If taxes and spending are to go up, you make sure you don't have anything to do with it! Rand's idea is looking better and better. If Boehner adopts it, his party may still have a chance. Otherwise, they're going to get slaughtered in their primaries.

liveandletlive
12-21-2012, 09:41 PM
idk but you but ive always thought somethins a little off about the guy. I always thought he was heavily medicated.

Boner is an embarrassment even to the establishment

Matt Collins
12-21-2012, 09:47 PM
Well, the Republicans will get blamed either way, so there is no reason not to fight and at least not piss off their base.

Constitutional Paulicy
12-21-2012, 10:09 PM
Rand's idea is looking better and better.

I was just thinking this very thing.

itshappening
12-21-2012, 10:28 PM
I'm guessing the speaker will do rand's idea now, probably before 31st Dec.

Negotiating with Obama is pointless.

jkob
12-21-2012, 11:55 PM
I so want Boner to have to resign in shame

puppetmaster
12-22-2012, 12:10 AM
Boehner is an idiot. Instead of fighting his own side, he could have come out strong against the President. He was afraid his party was going to get blamed if they couldn't get a deal. Now, he's going to get blamed anyway. Stupid. He tried to find some middle ground to get a deal done. Dumb.

If taxes and spending are to go up, you make sure you don't have anything to do with it! Rand's idea is looking better and better. If Boehner adopts it, his party may still have a chance. Otherwise, they're going to get slaughtered in their primaries. you did not forget they are on the same team and this is just a dog and pony show.