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aGameOfThrones
12-21-2012, 06:27 AM
Like most major cities, Baltimore has installed a net of speed cameras across its streets to reduce traffic accidents and provide a new source of cash. Last year, those cameras provided 904,000 tickets generating some $36 million — and several complaints that the cameras were inaccurate, including one from a man who got a ticket for speeding in his Mazda 5 even though it was clearly stopped. After a city probe, the camera operator found that it had issued tickets wrongly in 5 percent of cases, a statistic that's only raised more questions about how off other systems might be.

The review was handled by Xerox, which bought the company that installed the 83 speed cameras in Baltimore. When those cameras capture a speeder in the act, the company has its technicians review the evidence before forwarding to Baltimore police, who issue the actual ticket. That $40 ticket carries the same legal weight as one given by an officer standing by your car; it's a sworn statement that law enforcement saw you commit the act.

Except in Daniel Doty's case. As the Baltimore Sun reported, Doty received a ticket for going 38 mph in a 20-mph zone even though the video captured by the camera shows his car stopped at an intersection, with its brake lights on. After his complaint and several others spurred a review by Baltimore officials, Xerox did its own investigation and told the city on Dec. 11 that at five of the 83 cameras, an "unusually high rate of occurrence of radar effects" had caused the cameras to tag speeders when they shouldn't have been. Because the processors didn't catch the errors, Xerox estimated 5.2 percent of the several thousand tickets launched by those five cameras were wrong; outside of those cameras, Xerox says its systems were incorrect just 0.05 percent of the time.

The company says it updated its training to handle errors from two of the five sites, but in three other sites it hasn't been able to turn the cameras back on. Because the cameras use radar to sense speeders, they can be thrown off by large trucks and other surfaces that scramble waves, and Baltimore officials say they will need to void hundreds of tickets from those five sites.

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/review-finds-baltimore-speed-cameras-errors-led-hundreds-184607968.html

FrancisMarion
12-21-2012, 09:29 AM
In my opinion, tickets should only be valid if delivered by hand at the scene of the infraction.

No tickets by mail.

presence
12-21-2012, 09:37 AM
If there was no one manning the camera. And no one in court to attest to the accuracy of the photo then it is:

Hearsay!

http://photoradarscam.com/getout.php

FindLiberty
12-21-2012, 11:25 AM
Automated right turn on red camera/ticket things and these speed camera/tickets all need to go away A.S.A.P.

It's OK if intersection cameras take video recordings (with public access via WWW) that can show what happened and/or who was at fault AFTER AN ACCIDENT.

Schifference
12-21-2012, 04:22 PM
It is probably safer for the driver to get it in the mail rather than hand delivered in person.

Tpoints
12-21-2012, 04:23 PM
Yep, because they're not perfect, we should have no cameras and no laws.