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Matt Collins
12-20-2012, 09:09 AM
TN House Speaker Beth Harwell doesn't believe teachers should be able to defend themselves against an armed attack at their school.
(http://tncampaignforliberty.org/wordpress/2012/12/gov-haslam-doesnt-want-teachers-to-be-able-to-defend-students-against-gunmen/)
Call AND e-mail Speaker Harwell to let her know you think that the right to keep and bear arms applies to teachers too!

615-504-5398 (cell phone)
615-463-9228 (district phone #1)
615-385-0357 (district phone #2)
615-741-0709 (office phone)
speaker.beth.harwell@capitol.tn.gov

presence
12-20-2012, 09:26 AM
Don't mind the spam....

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?398499-BREAKING-mass-shooting-at-elementary-school&p=4775971#post4775971
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?398548-Connecticut-gun-code-of-1650&p=4776173#post4776173





These shootings wouldn't happen if



[we] Guard with jealous attention the public liberty.
Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel.
Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force.
Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.
The great object is that every man be armed.

Patrick Henry

Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks.

Thomas Jefferson, 1787

Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American.

Tench Coxe, 1788



http://www.eskimo.com/~bpentium/articles/guns.html (http://www.eskimo.com/%7Ebpentium/articles/guns.html)



Connecticut
gun code of 1650:


"All persons shall bear arms,
and every male person
shall have in continual readiness
a good musket or other gun, fit for service."











So far have we strayed...


The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil influence.
They deserve a place of honour with all that's good.
When firearms go, all goes.
We need them every hour.

George Washington







Guns in Church:

The statute that most clearly states the intent of “bring your guns to church” laws is a 1643 Connecticut
order, “To prevent or withstand such sudden assaults as may be made by Indeans upon the Sabboth or
lecture dayes, It is Ordered, that one person in every several howse wherein is any souldear or souldears, shall
bring a musket, pystoll or some peece, with powder and shott to e[a]ch meeting....” http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...bwy5yg&cad=rja (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=+%5BPDF%5D++Gun+Control+in+Colonial+New+England% 2C+Part+I&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEMQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.saf.org%2Fjournal%2F16%2Fcolo nialfirearmregulation.pdf&ei=1nzMUOG1JeWw0AHakoHwCw&usg=AFQjCNEjSH-M2fj9OMmJdX3M629jbwy5yg&cad=rja)




Suddenly it seems more horrifyingly possible that your child could become a victim
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It's also clear there have been more mass shootings in recent decades.


http://parentables.howstuffworks.com...kids-safe.html (http://parentables.howstuffworks.com/health-wellness/connecticut-mom-scared-witless-by-school-shooting-where-are-our-kids-safe.html)
For three decades, the story of gun control was one of notorious crimes and laws passed in response, beginning with the federal law that followed the assassinations of Robert F. Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in 1968.


http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refere...rol/index.html (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/g/gun_control/index.html)




In 1637, Connecticut changed the law very slightly, with a fine of five shillings for each
failure to appear so armed with a gun and ammunition.
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Connecticut ordered in 1643 that at least one person in
every house “shall bring a musket, pistol or some piece, with powder and shot” to every
church meeting. Like Massachusetts, Connecticut found within a month that so many
people were failing to do so, that they passed a law to fine anyone who neglected to bring
their gun to church.
[]
The very first entry in Public Records of the Colony of Connecticut is a
1636 complaint that a Henry Stiles or one of his servants had traded a gun to the Indians
for corn. In 1640, George Abbott is ordered to pay a £5 fine for “selling a pistol &
powder to the Indians....” A few years later, four different men are each fined £10 (a
very large sum in those days) for selling guns to the Indians.
[]
New Haven Colony, until its acquisition by Connecticut, was an independent colony,
with its own laws. (I am proud to tell you that my ancestor nineteen generations back,
Thomas Nash, was the colony’s armorer—perhaps it runs in the family.) In 1644, the
New Haven legislature ordered every man from 16 to 60 to be armed “with a good gun, a
sword, a pound of good powder, 4 fathom [24 feet] of match for a matchlock, 5 or 6 good
flints fitted for every fire lock, and 4 pound of pistol bullets, or 24 bullets fitted for every
gun....” Militia officers were ordered to “take a strict view once every quarter of a year,
that all the males from 16 to 60 be furnished as above....” Not only were individual
militiamen subject to a 40 shilling fine, but so were the officers if they failed to inspect
and fine their subordinates.15


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...28wcgQ&cad=rja (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=connecticut+gun+code+1690&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CEoQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.claytoncramer.com%2Fpopular%2 FGunControlColonialNewEngland2.PDF&ei=aHrMUJ_4CMP30gH4hYGgBw&usg=AFQjCNFWAgWU_S-0D5nLUxRojOmi28wcgQ&cad=rja)


Much like Massachusetts, [in Connecticut] poverty was not an excuse for not owning a gun. If you
claimed that you were too poor to buy a gun, the militia clerk would sell you one. You
were supposed to bring corn or other sellable goods to the clerk, who would issue you a
weapon, and then sell the goods that you brought. Just to discourage you from not even
trying to buy a gun on your own, the law allowed the clerk to charge you as much as 20%
above the market price.
[]

It is amusing to think

that where today the government of Massachusetts [and Connecticut] does its best to discourage gun
ownership, only three centuries ago, it did its best to make sure that everyone owned a
gun.



http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...J7qRiA&cad=rja (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=+%5BPDF%5D++Gun+Control+in+Colonial+New+England% 2C+Part+I&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.claytoncramer.com%2Fpopular%2 FGunControlColonialNewEngland.PDF&ei=1nzMUOG1JeWw0AHakoHwCw&usg=AFQjCNG-0QjPOJj85XOwjJOTXnbaJ7qRiA&cad=rja)

Anti Federalist
12-20-2012, 09:29 AM
Yes, let's keep all the pris...erm, schools "Gun Free" zones, because, you know, that policy is such a success.

Brett85
12-20-2012, 09:47 AM
John Boehner agrees.

itshappening
12-20-2012, 09:50 AM
GOP = sell outs !

angelatc
12-20-2012, 10:19 AM
The liberals will tell you that this isn't a spaghetti western (yes, I know, but that's what she said) and that the constitution is outdated and obsolete.

I'm not entirely nuts about having teachers carry guns though. Think Detroit Schools. Those things would be on the streets before sunset. Mostly because the teachers would sell them.

RCA
12-20-2012, 10:22 AM
The liberals will tell you that this isn't a spaghetti western (yes, I know, but that's what she said) and that the constitution is outdated and obsolete.

I'm not entirely nuts about having teachers carry guns though. Think Detroit Schools. Those things would be on the streets before sunset. Mostly because the teachers would sell them.

Watch out for liberal logic. Guns that are going to be on the streets ARE ALREADY on the streets. Drugs that are going to be on the streets ARE ALREADY on the streets.

cstarace
12-20-2012, 10:22 AM
No interest in more government megalomaniacs having guns. We have enough police officers already, don't need teachers armed too.

angelatc
12-20-2012, 10:26 AM
Watch out for liberal logic. Guns that are going to be on the streets ARE ALREADY on the streets. Drugs that are going to be on the streets ARE ALREADY on the streets.

If Miss Washington opts to conceal a .22 in her bag - awesome. The problems always begin when the government (district) begins passing out free stuff (guns).

As was the case when the District issued their teachers brand new Ipads. They were showing up in pawn shops by the end of the first week, and it wasn't because the kids were stealing them.