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AuH20
12-18-2012, 11:53 AM
So add this fascination with his daily prescription of Fanapt and suddenly the lines blur between fantasy and reality.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9752141/Connecticut-school-massacre-Adam-Lanza-spent-hours-playing-Call-Of-Duty.html

aGameOfThrones
12-18-2012, 11:58 AM
“The boys were fans of the military. They had posters all over the wall in the basement.

“They had one poster of every piece of military equipment the US ever made.

“It was a huge poster with every tank every made. The kids could tell you about guns they had never seen from the 40s, 50s and 60s.

..

ravedown
12-18-2012, 12:00 PM
according to a visiting plumber...ha. talk about an exclusive!

tod evans
12-18-2012, 12:07 PM
Guess just accepting that the kid was nuts isn't good enough.............Gotta blame something or someone..

dannno
12-18-2012, 12:10 PM
He was on fanapt?

AuH20
12-18-2012, 12:10 PM
He was on fanapt?

According to his uncle. I think Loughner was on the same poision.

torchbearer
12-18-2012, 12:12 PM
fanapt

Brian4Liberty
12-18-2012, 12:13 PM
Guess just accepting that the kid was nuts isn't good enough.............Gotta blame something or someone..

Always the search for something or someone to blame.

Ban Call of Duty! :rolleyes:

It would be interesting to know the percent of people who play Call of Duty who murder people, vs. the percent of people on psych drugs that kill people. (Yeah, might as well continue with the blame game. ;) )

James Madison
12-18-2012, 12:14 PM
Guess just accepting that the kid was nuts isn't good enough.............Gotta blame something or someone..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA

Acala
12-18-2012, 12:17 PM
It is in human nature to try and find a cause for events like this to make them seem more predictable than they really are. It is a way of trying to make a largely unpredictable world seem more controllable. But it is often illusory.

CaptUSA
12-18-2012, 12:18 PM
Ugh... It's exhausting playing whack-a-mole with all the things people want to blame.

brandon
12-18-2012, 12:19 PM
A 20 year old boy obsessed with a video game..ya don't say. Are ya going to tell me he watched porn and had a disorganized room next?

squarepusher
12-18-2012, 12:19 PM
another gem from the article


Lanza was apparently so emotionally detached in his teens that school officials assigned him a psychiatrist. They feared that he might harm himself, but did not regard him as a danger to others.

so we know modern psychology was on board this train, just like Colorado shooter

torchbearer
12-18-2012, 12:20 PM
Ugh... It's exhausting playing whack-a-mole with all the things people want to blame. our society glorifies war. government practices violence on a mass scale daily. Ron warned that government was going to find out it didn't have the monopoly on violence.

Dark_Horse_Rider
12-18-2012, 02:26 PM
another gem from the article



so we know modern psychology was on board this train, just like Colorado shooter

psychiatry

tod evans
12-18-2012, 02:33 PM
Please don't forget to compare the folks who consume canned fruit too...........

Ya' never know..:eek:


Always the search for something or someone to blame.

Ban Call of Duty! :rolleyes:

It would be interesting to know the percent of people who play Call of Duty who murder people, vs. the percent of people on psych drugs that kill people. (Yeah, might as well continue with the blame game. ;) )

Keith and stuff
12-18-2012, 02:36 PM
We must ban plastic! We must ban TVs. We must ban metal. We must nationalize the videogame companies. Quick, quick!

itshappening
12-18-2012, 02:37 PM
Blame Someone!!

http://grist.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/angry_mob_simpsons.jpg

mac_hine
12-18-2012, 03:12 PM
Fanapt may cause aggressive/violent behavior (frequent).

This drug may also cause the following symptoms that are related to aggressive/violent behavior:

* Hyperactivity Hyperactivity (uncommon)
* Impulse control problems Impulse control problems (uncommon)
* Mania (an emotional disorder with an exagerated feeling of well-being and hyperactivity - can cause racing thoughts; distraction; increased sexual urges; sleeplessness; irritability; anger; delusions; hyper-religiosity; talkativeness; rapid speech; buying sprees; grandiose plans; abnormally elevated mood) Mania (uncommon)
* Restlessness Restlessness (uncommon)


Medical Source Information
Yellow highlights indicate symptoms related to aggressive/violent behavior.

Psychiatric side effects including restlessness, aggression, and delusion have been reported frequently. Hostility, decreased libido, paranoia, anorgasmia, confusional state, mania, catatonia, mood swings, panic attack, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bulimia nervosa, delirium, polydipsia psychogenic, impulse-control disorder, and major depression have been reported infrequently.

Nervous system side effects including dizziness (up to 20%), somnolence (up to 15%), extrapyramidal disorder (up to 5%), tremor (3%), and lethargy (up to 3%) have been reported. Paraesthesia, psychomotor hyperactivity, restlessness, amnesia, and nystagmus have been reported infrequently. Restless legs syndrome has been reported rarely.
http://doublecheckmd.com/EffectsDetail.do?dname=Fanapt&sid=164543&eid=2127

Wen need a government agency to test these drugs before they're allowed to be sold......:rolleyes:

Here's a review from someone was was prescribed this poison:


was on this medication for 24 hours when my husband noticed a change in my behavior, not sleeping, hyperactive. Within 3 days I was taken to the hospital ER. I was paranoid, delusional, hallucinating and having violent outbursts. I had to be watched 24 hours a day for over a week while I detoxed from this medication. My pyschiatrist never told me the medication was for schizophrenia and misdiagnosed me as bipolar.

nobody's_hero
12-18-2012, 03:21 PM
Seriously? Call of Duty sucks. He probably went insane from being sold the same exact game over and over again, with one or two new gadgets.

Indy Vidual
12-18-2012, 03:25 PM
fanapt

http://www.fanapt.com/images/home.jpg
http://www.fanapt.com


http://www.fanapt.com/images/aboutfanapt-head.jpg

How to take Fanapt:

Take 1 tablet in the morning and 1 tablet in the evening.
Swallow the tablets whole, with or without food.
Never change your dose or stop taking your meds without discussing it with your doctor.
One of the most important things to remember is to keep taking your Fanapt even when you start to feel better.



http://www.fanapt.com/images/safety-head.jpg

The company selling fanapt knows it may cause you to be suicidal.

http://www.fanapt.com/images/admin-isi.jpg

Athan
12-18-2012, 03:29 PM
So add this fascination with his daily prescription of Fanapt and suddenly the lines blur between fantasy and reality.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9752141/Connecticut-school-massacre-Adam-Lanza-spent-hours-playing-Call-Of-Duty.html
Don't pass the blame ball to the video game industry. They should by the way unite and get Joe Leiberman out of office.

mac_hine
12-18-2012, 03:38 PM
The Antipsychotic Prescribed To Adam Lanza Has A Troubled History All Its Own

By now the whole country is fully embroiled in the Gun Control debate, spurred by the grisly murder of 27 people, mostly kids, at the Sandy Hook Elementary school last Friday.

Guns might not be the only problem though.

New York Magazine wrote a piece about shooter Adam Lanza's supposed "aspergers" syndrome as a "red herring" meant to distract from the real problem (guns, of course, the subject goes without mentioning).

Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine.

Fanapt was the subject of a Bloomberg report when it passed regulators, after previously getting the "nonapproval" stamp. Why wasn't it approved, you might ask?

There are many reasons, some of which have to do with competing entities in a competitive market.

The main cited reason for the rejection was that it caused severe heart problems in enough patients to cause a stir.

Maybe more importantly, though, Fanapt is one of a many drugs the FDA pumped out with an ability to exact the opposite desired effect on people: that is, you know, inducing rather than inhibiting psychosis and aggressive behavior.

In fact, Fanapt was dropped by its first producer, picked up by another, initially rejected by the FDA, then later picked up and mass produced. The adverse side-effect is said to be "infrequent," but still it exists, and can't be ignored.

The reaction invoked by the drug in some people is reminiscent of the Jeffrey R. MacDonald case, where a Green Beret slaughtered his entire family and then fabricated a story about a marauding troop of "hopped up hippies".

MacDonald though, had Eskatrol in his system, a weight-loss amphetamine that's since been banned in part for its side effects of psychotic behavior and aggression.

These drugs are not the only ones that can cause the opposite of their desired effect. Several anti-depressant medications are also restricted to adults, for the depression they inspire in kids rather than eliminate.
http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychotic-fanapt-2012-12#ixzz2FRSjO5CL

acptulsa
12-18-2012, 03:44 PM
New York Magazine wrote a piece about shooter Adam Lanza's supposed "aspergers" syndrome as a "red herring" meant to distract from the real problem (guns, of course, the subject goes without mentioning).

Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine.

So, the website says the drug is for schizophrenia. Yet schizophrenia and Asperger's are about a trillion miles apart. The disease and the 'Syndrome' have basically nothing in common. The 'New Autisms' are all applied to people who, if anything, can focus too well. Schzophrenia is in no way similar to that. Asperger's and psychosis are almost mutually exclusive.

I wonder if there's an ambulance chaser out there who's smart enough to institute and pull off a class action malpractice suit against Lanza's shrink? Seems to me that would do wonders for hitting Big Pharma where it hurts--their pushers.

mac_hine
12-18-2012, 03:51 PM
So, the website says the drug is for schizophrenia. Yet schizophrenia and Asperger's are about a trillion miles apart. The disease and the 'Syndrome' have basically nothing in common. The 'New Autisms' are all applied to people who, if anything, can focus too well. Schzophrenia is in no way similar to that. Asperger's and psychosis are almost mutually exclusive.

I wonder if there's an ambulance chaser out there who's smart enough to institute and pull off a class action malpractice suit against Lanza's shrink? Seems to me that would do wonders for hitting Big Pharma where it hurts--their pushers.

Yup. It's like prescribing Viagra for an ear infection.

alucard13mmfmj
12-18-2012, 05:31 PM
If they ban Call of Duty, pornography and guns... think of the rebellion.

BenIsForRon
12-18-2012, 05:40 PM
Millions of people in this country are obsessed with Call of Duty. I'd say they're crazy for not playing other games, but it certainly isn't the reason this guy was crazy.

torchbearer
12-18-2012, 06:17 PM
If they ban Call of Duty, pornography and guns... think of the rebellion. true. a good colon cleansing is what this country needs.

torchbearer
12-18-2012, 06:19 PM
Millions of people in this country are obsessed with Call of Duty. I'd say they're crazy for not playing other games, but it certainly isn't the reason this guy was crazy. didn't the latest release make a record $500million in sales in 24 hours, over 1 billion in total sales thus far? that is a low of people playing.

FindLiberty
12-18-2012, 06:29 PM
I call BS on that CoD blame game crap-ola. There are no kindergarteners in that game.
(Fallout3 mentions children: I saw kids in this video clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiAHktEN6aM)

I can spend many hours playing L4D2 on-line, shooting at everything I see IN THE GAME ...
I'm 100% certain that I'm not going to go batsh!7 crazy and shoot (or harm) anyone in the real world.
I only shoot (with the PC mouse) at the thousands of in-game zombies (OK, some players experience occasional friendly fire accidents).

I bet any connection with FPS gamers and actual murder spree shooters is even weaker than any slight connection between all "legal" gun owners and the evil murderous rampage sprees hyped on the MSM lately. How does this compare to the odds of being struck by lightning, or winning at Lotto?

Those meds must be the biggest part of the problem! If not, it must be traced back to early childhood drinking because, as everyone already knows, milk has been the original gateway drug ...ever since cows (and vaccines) were invented.

Maybe crazy stuff just happens sometimes. Maybe the next fame-crazy wacko is getting their improved (SSRI drug enhanced?) evil idea from the current MSM saturation coverage of last week's evil.

TheTexan
12-18-2012, 06:36 PM
So add this fascination with his daily prescription of Fanapt and suddenly the lines blur between fantasy and reality.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9752141/Connecticut-school-massacre-Adam-Lanza-spent-hours-playing-Call-Of-Duty.html

"Was she the type to have these guns under lock and key"
"Oh, yes, absolutely, she was very responsible"

"She taught him to respect guns, he was always very careful with guns, it was a source of pride" [this is the plumber? if so, how the fuck would a plumber know]?

It seems the narrative this interview is trying to get across is this:

EVEN IF YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE AND TEACH YOUR KIDS WELL YOUR KID MAY GO SHOOT UP AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

That guy at the end.. definitely something off. He pauses and looks up like he's trying to remember the rest of his lines, and the phrasing is fucking awkward.

Staged interview imo.

Natural Citizen
12-18-2012, 08:25 PM
Ugh... It's exhausting playing whack-a-mole with all the things people want to blame.

One of the main obstacles in getting any where at all is when we drop a simple line like "oh, they just want to blame something". That has a quirky way of getting in the way of any actual discussion that would expand upon outliers. I'm probably going to get hammered for this but it's just an observation. Libertarians are good for this. Nobody is looking to just blame. At least not practical thinker. I'm sure some do. Using that kind of language just interferes with the process of critical thought regarding these things, in my opinion. It's a popular meme that usually serves to distract from the nuts and bolts where many people gather for discussion.

I'm not saying that you are doing that and even if I were I'm sure you wouldn't care what I think anyhow. I'm just saying that this rebuttal is rather standard and does interfere with deeper reason when discussing things that are a broad spectrum.

talkingpointes
12-18-2012, 09:26 PM
Should something happen to me, let it be known I have probably 10,000+ hours in the Civilization game series. Just saying.

squarepusher
12-18-2012, 09:27 PM
Should something happen to me, let it be known I have probably 10,000+ hours in the Civilization game series. Just saying.

maybe you might build a real civilization??!?

brushfire
12-18-2012, 09:44 PM
This guy is Feinstein's wet dream. Way to go, Adam... One more reason why you should rot in hell.

tod evans
12-19-2012, 04:16 AM
One of the main obstacles in getting any where at all is when we drop a simple line like "oh, they just want to blame something". That has a quirky way of getting in the way of any actual discussion that would expand upon outliers.

I'm guilty of attributing the search for something to blame to the medias focus on both guns and video games.

That said, I tend to give people credit that they are able to discern fantasy from reality.

Others have set forth the beliefs that they believe some people are unduly influenced by entertainment in video game format.

It's entirely probable that both positions are right.............

Which leads to the simple question; If some members of society are unduly influenced by a product is it in societies best interests to legislate against said product?

I say no, a resounding NO!

Would it be wise and prudent for folks to educate themselves about potential hazards of any product before purchasing it?

Absolutely!

For me anyway, this philosophy applies to video games/drugs/guns/cars...etc.