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Mach
12-17-2012, 11:59 PM
Pharmaceuticals that is.....

http://psychiatricfraud.org/2011/04/the-real-lesson-of-columbine-psychiatric-drugs-induce-violence/


A growing number of school shootings and other shooting rampages were committed by individuals under the influence of, or in withdrawal from, psychiatric drugs known to cause mania, psychosis, violence and even homicide. Consider this list of 13 massacres over the past decade or so, resulting in 54 dead and 105 wounded – and these are just the ones where the psychiatric drugs are known. In other cases, medical records were sealed or autopsy reports not made public or, in some cases, toxicology tests were either not done to test for psychiatric drugs or not disclosed to the public. But this is what we do know about the mental health “treatment” of those who committed these acts of violence:

* Dekalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 16 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system.
* Omaha, Nebraska – December 5, 2007: 19-year-old Robert Hawkins killed eight people and wounded five before committing suicide in an Omaha mall. Hawkins’ friend told CNN that the gunman was on antidepressants, and autopsy results confirmed he was under the influence of the “anti-anxiety” drug Valium.
* Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide.
* Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa Coon stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone.
* Blacksburg, Virginia – April 16, 2007: 23-year-old Seung Hui Cho shot to death 32 students and faculty of Virginia Tech, wounding 17 more, and then killing himself. He had received prior mental health treatment, however his mental health records remained sealed.
* Red Lake, Minnesota – March 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 7 students and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself.
* Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking “medication for depression”.
* El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School.
* Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.
* Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with antidepressants when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.
* Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox. Klebold’s medical records remain sealed.
* Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.
* Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 22. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac.

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A lot more detail here...

http://ssristories.com/index.php[/url] (Click the two links at the top of this page for even more.



66 School Shootings/Incidents Involving SSRIs

Most of the stories on this site describe events that occurred after the year 2000. The increase in online news material and the efficiency of search engines has greatly increased the ability to track stories. Even these 4,800+ documented stories only represent the tip of an iceberg since most stories do not make it into the media. There are 115 cases of bizarre behavior, 66 school shootings/incidents, 68 road rage tragedies, 19 air rage incidents, 101 arson cases, 70 postpartum depression cases, over 1,000 murders (homicides) or murder attempts, over 300 murder-suicides (30% committed by women) and other acts of violence including workplace violence on this site. There are also over 100 Journal Articles and FDA reports listed in the Index. They are at the top of the Index immediately below the 66 school shootings/incidents and the 29 "won" criminal cases.


The Physicians' Desk Reference

The Physicians' Desk Reference lists the following adverse reactions (side effects) to antidepressants among a host of other physical and neuropsychiatric effects. None of these adverse reactions (side effects) is listed as Rare. They are all listed as either Frequent or as Infrequent:


* Manic Reaction (Mania, e.g., Kleptomania, Pyromania, Dipsomania, Nymphomania)
* Hypomania (e.g., poor judgment, over spending, impulsivity, etc.)
* Abnormal Thinking
* Hallucinations
* Personality Disorder
* Amnesia
* Agitation
* Psychosis
* Abnormal Dreams



* Emotional Lability (Or Instability)
* Alcohol Abuse and/or Craving
* Hostility
* Paranoid Reactions
* Confusion
* Delusions
* Sleep Disorders
* Akathisia (Severe Inner Restlessness)
* Discontinuation (Withdrawal) Syndrome
* Impulsivity

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Why don't you ever hear about this on the "News"?

edited... direct links...

https://ssristories.org/

https://ssristories.org/all-posts/

http://ssristories.net/archive/indexb6a1.html?sort=date&p=

James Madison
12-18-2012, 12:00 AM
As a person who has experience mild psychosis brought on from abruptly halting SSRI treatment, I can say these stories are absolutely true.

Natural Citizen
12-18-2012, 12:02 AM
Why don't you ever hear about this on the "News"?

Ever watch the commercials in between the news? There you have it.

MSM will continue to run interference for this industry and those who are complicit with it. They'll call for more complicit psychiatry and more pharmaceuricals in what is essentially damage control that creates yet more demand for a market to alter the state of man. And the people will love them for it.

There ought to be a specific thread with all of these advertisements posted in video format. Almost every one mentions of suicidal tendencies and many other things that they do to the mind. Of course, they spew it a gazilion mph much like the finance terms on a new car ad but it's there. They know what they are doing to minds. Make no mistake about it. And they want to keep doing it. MSM is practically screaming for more phsycological guinea pigs for them.

Carehn
12-18-2012, 12:10 AM
I agree with this to an extent... The question is why all the drugs. Because we are a quick fix nation. So the question is why are we a quick fix nation???

kcchiefs6465
12-18-2012, 12:14 AM
Ever watch the commercials in between the news? There you have it.

MSM will continue to run interference for this industry and those who are complicit with it. They'll call for more complicit psychiatry and more pharmaceuricals in what is essentially damage control that creates yet more demand for a market to alter the state of man. And the people will love them for it.
They do have class action lawsuit commercials for Seroquel and a couple other pharmaceutical drugs. (Paxil I believe I've seen?) Suicidal tendencies, tardive dyskinesia, etc. Even with, they still prescribe the shit like Motrin.

kcchiefs6465
12-18-2012, 12:14 AM
I agree with this to an extent... The question is why all the drugs. Because we are a quick fix nation. So the question is why are we a quick fix nation???
Printing money?

Peace Piper
12-18-2012, 02:34 AM
While clicking around to find some ammo (sorry) to counter the latest ban the guns frenzy I found an interesting NIH.GOV web page--
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/
This link is hard for the "liberals" to discredit because it comes from their favorite thing: Big Daddy Gov

NIH.GOV: Antidepressants and Violence-Problems at the Interface of Medicine & Law

"Recent regulatory warnings about adverse behavioural effects of antidepressants in susceptible individuals have raised the profile of these issues with clinicians, patients, and the public. We review available clinical trial data on paroxetine and sertraline and pharmacovigilance studies of paroxetine and fluoxetine, and outline a series of medico-legal cases involving antidepressants and violence.

Both clinical trial and pharmacovigilance data point to possible links between these drugs and violent behaviours. The legal cases outlined returned a variety of verdicts that may in part have stemmed from different judicial processes. Many jurisdictions appear not to have considered the possibility that a prescription drug may induce violence.

...Legal systems are likely to continue to be faced with cases of violence associated with the use of psychotropic drugs, and it may fall to the courts to demand access to currently unavailable data. The problem is international and calls for an international response.

...In 1989, Joseph Wesbecker shot dead eight people and injured 12 others before killing himself at his place of work in Kentucky. Wesbecker had been taking the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) antidepressant fluoxetine for four weeks before these homicides, and this led to a legal action against the makers of fluoxetine, Eli Lilly . The case was tried and settled in 1994, and as part of the settlement a number of pharmaceutical company documents about drug-induced activation were released into the public domain. Subsequent legal cases, some of which are outlined below, have further raised the possibility of a link between antidepressant use and violence.

...Some regulators, such as the Canadian regulators, have also referred to risks of treatment-induced activation leading to both self-harm and harm to others . The United States labels for all antidepressants as of August 2004 note that “anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder as well as for other indications, both psychiatric and nonpsychiatric” . Despite these developments, few data are available on the links between antidepressant usage and violence. We here offer new data, review the implications of these data, and summarise a series of medico-legal cases.

...In these trials, hostile events are found to excess in both adults and children on paroxetine compared with placebo, and are found across indications, and both on therapy and during withdrawal. The rates were highest in children with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), where the odds ratio of a hostile event was 17 times greater (95% confidence interval

Emotional blunting

Another mechanism that may contribute to hostile events is treatment-induced emotional blunting. Several reports published since 1990 have linked SSRI intake with the production of emotional blunting, detachment, or an amotivational syndrome, described in one report as the equivalent to a “chemical lobotomy”

It is quite common in clinical practice to find people who say they simply are not bothered any more. Things that would previously have worried them no longer do so...


Mania and psychosis

Another mechanism that may link SSRIs to violence are the manic or psychotic states reported to be induced by drug treatment. These drug-induced states often resolve once the medication is removed. However, the full dimensions of treatment-induced psychotic or manic reactions have yet to be mapped; some may continue for a long period after treatment has stopped . It has recently been estimated that these drug-induced manic or psychotic states may account for up to eight percent of admissions to psychiatric facilities .

...The development of a psychotic episode or of command hallucinations has traditionally been linked to both violence and suicide. The labels for most SSRIs now concede a causal relationship to psychosis and to hallucinations...(more)

Conclusion

The new issues highlighted by these cases need urgent examination jointly by jurists and psychiatrists in all countries where antidepressants are widely used. The problem is international, and it would make sense to organise an international effort now.

Annex: The Illustrative Medico-Legal Cases

Case 1

DS was a 60-year-old man with a history of five prior anxiety/depressive episodes. These did not involve suicidality, aggressive behaviour, or other serious disturbance. All prior episodes had resolved within several weeks...

...In 1998, a new family doctor, unaware of this adverse reaction to fluoxetine, prescribed paroxetine 20 mg to DS, for what was diagnosed as an anxiety disorder. Two days later having had, it is believed, two doses of medication, DS using a gun put three bullets each through the heads of his wife, his daughter who was visiting, and his nine-month-old granddaughter before killing himself.

Case 3

DH was a 74-year-old man from New South Wales with a history of mixed anxiety/depressive episodes, many of which resolved without drug treatment. He had no history of violence or suicidality, and had remained gainfully employed throughout...

That night, apparently feeling worse after a first dose of sertraline, DH took four more doses of sertraline. The next morning, after his wife got up he met her in the kitchen and strangled her...(more)

(More cases detailed at link)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/

here's a pretty good video that explains how these drugs work their "magic"(if you can tolerate the on screen caption)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRj9CxkVrz0

The DUmmieRats (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1002) don't want to talk about this because it derails their agenda of gun control and demonizing people.

Natural Citizen
12-18-2012, 05:40 AM
I agree with this to an extent... The question is why all the drugs. Because we are a quick fix nation. So the question is why are we a quick fix nation???

Well. This is just my opinion but here goes. We have become quite a wreckless generation of consumers. And that's exactly how we are referred to now. As well, we should be. We don't attempt to reclaim our status in any way any more. No longer are we referenced as the citizens that we are. We're just consumers. What is worse is that many have this misguided view that we consume from a free market. When governments begin to force that we undergo psych evaluations from the very psychiatrists who are complicit in what the pharmaceutical industry has helped to usher in as of late then what you have is a government controlled market. Heck, the industry feeds these politicians millions. Maybe more. Of course, the msm remain in their efforts to run interference for them. After all, one only has to watch the Big Pharma ads in between the bullshit segments they call news.

Yep. We're a fast food mindset type nation across the board. Gimme, gimme, gimme. Whatsit, 5 bucks? Lemme havit...if it clogs me up then I'll go get some of that medicine to treat it so I can go back and consume more. Reality tv? Gimme! Video games? Gimme! iphone? Gimme! What a mess. We need to return to things that are meaningful.

We're consuming ourselves out of relevant existence in producing representation of, by and for us too. It's convenient. And there certainly is a market for it. Hell, we demand it.

I don't remember it being this way when I was young. Cripes, we picked our food, canned it, worked the fields and hardly ever had to go into town except to check the mail. Heck, I spent my whole day hiking through the blue ridge mountains hunting and fishing. I had a blast. Even brought home supper. Everyone was healthy. Only thing I ever took was an Anacin once in a while.

People are just so spoiled in a world where everything is convenient but not very good for them in a lot of ways. And it's amazing how transparent these industries work in synergy against the citizen....sorry...consumer. After all, you didn't build that.

Wasn't like this until corporations were granted the gift of constitution and commenced to reminding elected representatives that hey...we're people too now...so you represent us. When the sheep scream for liberty then remember that they scream for us. They just think it means them. Here's a few million bucks just so you know exactly who you speak for from now on. The folks you used to represent? Meh...fuggem. There for a while we made em feel welcomed by calling them average voters but now we just call em consumers. They know their role and shut their mouth. Heck, they don't even care to know how we screw with their food and as such them. Yep. We own em. Got a patent to prove it. Heck, they even helped us to get by with it. They can just take this medicine...after they see this quack. Hey, if it screws a couple of em up and all hell breaks loose then then we'll check em out. You just tell them they have to make an appointment. Don't worry. They'll not question it. They think yer gonna take their guns if they don't because of the last mess we made with the meds. Actually, you know, fuggit. We'll just barcode em or something. We own the darn genes they carry now anyhow. Remember? They asked for it. Yeah, we'll keep a tab on em. We bought a healthcare bill too so...yeah...they're beat.. I think we paid for them to scribble in the term device...so...we're ready. :rolleyes:

Good old consumers. Gotta love em.

Natural Citizen
12-18-2012, 06:22 AM
Seriously though. What we have systematically done is relinquished our want for representation through wreckless consumerism. Multi-national corporations are the people now. They are the ones who are represented. Why do you think they are getting a free pass on this stuff? It's obvious that the pharmaceutical companies and complicit quacks have played a large role in current events. Yet we are the ones who the msm says needs to be evaluated. Problem...Reaction...Solution...Growth. And you'll do as they tell the politicians to tell you to do. If you want to change it then take back your 14th amendment from their control. It's the only way.

And I've only heard 1 representative reflect that reality. Just 1. If folks are going to fear their 2nd amendment being hijacked then they may as well have a fighting chance at the same time. I'm going to start supporting Dennis. Well...at least until another politician starts speaking up on behalf of the living, breathing citizens that live as opposed to the artificial variety who just grow...like a virus. Is doubtful that I'll see one though. These corporations who like to play with our human genes like the big pharmas and Monsanto's have too much support from the establishment politicians.Every one of these shooters had their physical genes all screwed up in some form or another as a result of these "markets".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6FY3YlxND4&playnext=1&list=PL2669822812C6 EF70&feature=results_video

Mach
12-18-2012, 01:04 PM
http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/rappoport3.1.1.html


You may as well say that, from this point on, the rest of the events in Newtown, Connecticut, will be brought to you by Merck, Glaxo, and Pfizer.

Media outlets are already reporting that “a raft of services” will be available for the children of Sandy Hook Elementary school, and the Newtown community, where Adam Lanza killed 26 people yesterday.

This is phase two. It always happens at these mass murder events. The grief counselors. The social service workers. The psychologists.

They pour in. And they end up referring people to psychiatrists, who will in turn prescribe some of the very drugs that trigger murder and suicide.

The drugs that cause people to kill.

This is one way the psychiatric drug industry spreads its heinous influence.

Antischism
12-18-2012, 01:15 PM
My question is, would the outcome be the same if these people completely neglected drugs and just continued to suffer with their mental conditions? It's easy to point at instances where people on medication commit crimes, just like one can point to instances where legal gun owners commit crimes. There's a bigger issue that must be tackled. It's the society we live in, which is creating these mental health issues.

pcosmar
12-18-2012, 01:26 PM
It's the society we live in, which is creating these mental health issues.

I certainly believe that most of these "mental Health Issues" are created, I don't believe it is "society" that is responsible.
Except the Social Planners, Social Engineers, Social Controllers out there. Most of whom work for or with the Government and in collusion wit both Pharmaceutics and Psychiatry. And both those have a serious lack of ethics, historically.

Anti Federalist
12-18-2012, 01:34 PM
My question is, would the outcome be the same if these people completely neglected drugs and just continued to suffer with their mental conditions? It's easy to point at instances where people on medication commit crimes, just like one can point to instances where legal gun owners commit crimes. There's a bigger issue that must be tackled. It's the society we live in, which is creating these mental health issues.

Allow me a re-post:


What is driving the need for these drugs?

Cognitive Dissonance is a term thrown about, too loosely I think. It is important to understand just what CG is.

It is the pain, upset, mental unbalance and discomfort caused by a rational person trying to adjust to Orwell's world, where one plus one equals three, or five, or nothing.

It is knowing that we have NOT always been at war with Eastasia.

Basically, these drugs are being used like camphor under the nose is used when dealing with a decomposed body.

They are being used to mask the stink of a dying society, to keep the semblance of sanity in people that smell the stink every day, and can neither acclimate themselves to it, nor properly identify what, and where, that stink is coming from.

donnay
12-18-2012, 01:38 PM
I certainly believe that most of these "mental Health Issues" are created, I don't believe it is "society" that is responsible.
Except the Social Planners, Social Engineers, Social Controllers out there. Most of whom work for or with the Government and in collusion wit both Pharmaceutics and Psychiatry. And both those have a serious lack of ethics, historically.

+rep x 1000

We are bombarded day in and day out with Big pHARMa advertisements--TV, radio, billboards, newspapers and magazines.

It also doesn't help when teachers recommend to parents that their children have learning disabilities and to have them look into getting their children on meds for this so-called disability. As a side note; The more schools that have children on these drugs get more federal funds! So there is an absolute incentive for teachers to become drug pushers.

AGRP
12-18-2012, 01:48 PM
Anyone who understands homeostasis or "what goes up must come down" can understand how dangerous ssris are. If people feel euphorically happy on these drugs then one can only imagine how incredibly bad one must feel when stopping them. And to think the media responsible for pushing them demonizes natural medicinals such as marijuana.

Mach
12-18-2012, 02:06 PM
Allow me a re-post:


What is driving the need for these drugs?

Cognitive Dissonance is a term thrown about, too loosely I think. It is important to understand just what CG is.

It is the pain, upset, mental unbalance and discomfort caused by a rational person trying to adjust to Orwell's world, where one plus one equals three, or five, or nothing.

It is knowing that we have NOT always been at war with Eastasia.

Basically, these drugs are being used like camphor under the nose is used when dealing with a decomposed body.

They are being used to mask the stink of a dying society, to keep the semblance of sanity in people that smell the stink every day, and can neither acclimate themselves to it, nor properly identify what, and where, that stink is coming from.

I agree, they downright breed Cognitive Dissonance (rationalization).

UpperDecker
12-18-2012, 03:37 PM
I have to say, I didn't really think about the drug problem until a recent visit to the doctor. This guy was trying to tell me I might be in the early stages of schizophrenia, but he obviously was not listening to me. He kept asking me about hearing things, which I never once said and it seemed like he was trying to push me into a misdiagnosis of a mental disorder. I know with 100% certainty that I do not have any mental disorders, but it is rather frightening to see how doctors are pushing things like this these days. Needless to say, I ignored any and all calls from his office since then.

acptulsa
12-18-2012, 03:48 PM
We need to define this debate, and I say it comes down to this: If we get rid of all the guns, then we make the world safer for Big Pharma's antidepressants. So, do we want our antidepressants (and the occasional misdiagnosed loose screw who has the fortitude to walk into a school with a knife, Chinese style) or would we rather be able to hunt and protect ourselves?

Working Poor
12-18-2012, 04:02 PM
The libs are trying to kick my ass on something I posted using the NIH link that
"Peace Pipe" provided above. The libs want guns banned and nothing anyone says about mental health drugs is going to change their minds.

Peace Piper
12-18-2012, 04:07 PM
The libs are trying to kick my ass on something I posted using the NIH link that
"Peace Pipe" provided above. The libs want guns banned and nothing anyone says about mental health drugs is going to change their minds.

feed 'em this and watch their tiny little heads pop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04UqzYOdGNs

Tpoints
12-18-2012, 04:11 PM
Drugs don't kill people, people who take them kill themselves.

dannno
12-18-2012, 04:11 PM
The libs are trying to kick my ass on something I posted using the NIH link that
"Peace Pipe" provided above. The libs want guns banned and nothing anyone says about mental health drugs is going to change their minds.

They obviously don't understand that banning guns only gets guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens and keeps them in the hands of criminals, who now know that the vast majority of law abiding citizens are unarmed.

Tell them they can try and ban guns all they want, but gun control is the biggest part of the problem and gun free zones are the best target for someone who wants to go on a successful shooting rampage. If they want more shooting massacres, they should continue to push for gun control.

Working Poor
12-18-2012, 05:28 PM
The libs want what they want

heavenlyboy34
12-18-2012, 06:14 PM
About 4 years old, but still relevant: http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2008/11/20/71-psychiatry-as-an-arm-of-the-state/ Psychiatry As An Arm Of The State.

RonPaulFanInGA
12-18-2012, 06:30 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/police-find-no-evidence-connecticut-gunman-was-on-medication/


While Newtown buried two more young victims Tuesday in the shooting massacre, authorities said they found no evidence the gunman who killed 27 people was being medicated for mental illness.

Investigators searching the Connecticut home gunman Adam Lanza shared with his mother, Nancy Lanza, seized cellphones, computers and computer games, but found nothing at the residence to indicate he was taking medication, Hearst Connecticut Newspapers reported.

dannno
12-18-2012, 06:35 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/police-find-no-evidence-connecticut-gunman-was-on-medication/

Sounds like they need to do a blood test.

Anti Federalist
12-18-2012, 07:56 PM
The libs are trying to kick my ass on something I posted using the NIH link that
"Peace Pipe" provided above. The libs want guns banned and nothing anyone says about mental health drugs is going to change their minds.

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Natural Citizen
12-26-2012, 01:34 PM
I was going to add this to the transhumanism thread but it actually makes sense here. Besides nobody reads the4 thing anyhow. You know? Anyhoo, since Infrastructure is technically already in place for public testing and such... think...it'll come to you...

This Scientist Wants Tomorrow’s Troops to Be Mutant-Powered (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/12/andrew-herr/)


It’s warfare waged at the evolutionary level. And it’s coming sooner than many people think. According to the futurists at the U.S. National Intelligence Council, by 2030, “neuro-enhancements could provide superior memory recall or speed of thought. Brain-machine interfaces could provide ‘superhuman (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/12/superhumans-instant-cities/)‘ abilities, enhancing strength and speed, as well as providing functions not previously available.”

Qualities that today must be honed by years of training and education could be installed in a relative instant by, say, an injection or a targeted burst of electricity to the brain. Rapid advancements in neurology, pharmacology (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/gitmo/) and genetics (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/track-changes-for-your-genes-darpa-goal/) could soon make such installations fairly easy.

Peace Piper
12-26-2012, 02:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u4vZlHTNiA

DrugAwareness.Org Youtube channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/icfda/videos

See what users say:
http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/
US National Institutes of Health: Antidepressants and Violence-problems at the
Interface of Medicine & Law

PROZAC-PANACEA OR PANDORA? Our Serotonin Nightmare
2001 UPDATE SPECIAL EDITION free here-(PDF)
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Health/Articles/ProzacReport-DrTracy.pdf

Working Poor
12-26-2012, 03:21 PM
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Ne

Natural Citizen
12-26-2012, 04:21 PM
Mainstream media avoiding any mention of link between psychiatric drugs and violent shootings (http://www.naturalnews.com/038456_mainstream_media_psychiatric_drugs_school_s hootings.html)

Big Pharma dollars doing the talking?

In calling for a long-overdue federal investigation into the link between psychiatric drugs (http://www.naturalnews.com/psychiatric_drugs.html) and violence, the Citizens Commission on Human Rights International cites three telling facts:

-- Despite 22 international drug regulatory warnings on psychiatric drugs that cite effects like mania, violence, hostility and homicidal ideation, as well as scores of high-profile shootings and other killings tied to psychiatric drug (http://www.naturalnews.com/drug.html) use, "there has yet to be a federal investigation on the link between psychiatric drugs and acts of senseless violence," the CCHRI said.

-- At least 14 recent shootings at schools have been committed by someone taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs. The results are telling: 58 killed, 109 wounded. In other school shootings (http://www.naturalnews.com/school_shootings.html), "information about their drug use was never made public - neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs," CCHRI said.

-- Between 2004 and 2011, there have been 11,000 reports to the Food and Drug Administration's MedWatch system regarding the side effects of psychiatric drugs in relation to violence. Included in these reports: 300 cases of homicide, nearly 3,000 cases of mania and over 7,000 cases of aggression. By the FDA's own admission, CCHRI notes, only 1-10 percent of side effects are even reported to the agency, "so the actual number of side effects occurring are most certainly higher," the international organization said.

Despite these horrendous statistics, there have been no calls by the mainstream media (http://www.naturalnews.com/mainstream_media.html) to have use of these drugs examined, let alone banned - unlike guns.

Could that be, in large part, due to the fact that Big Pharma spends tens of millions a year in advertising with the corporate media?

Peace Piper
12-26-2012, 04:32 PM
In calling for a long-overdue federal investigation into the link between psychiatric drugs and violence, the Citizens Commission on Human Rights International cites three telling facts:

Here's something to consider when quoting CCHR to a dirty clueless "liberal"- they will instantly try to discredit it (even though CCHR is right in this case) by calling it a Scientology front.

Which it is. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Commission_on_Human_Rights) Once they throw this stink bomb no one listens anymore.

That's why links like that US Gov Institutes of Health link (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/) is so good- the little dunderheads can't even begin to discredit it.

I'm not saying CCHR is bogus or wrong or bad or anything like that, I don't know hardly a thing about them besides what is in Wiki. Just sayin, if you use them in front of the sicko's you'll have to deal with the scientology thingy.

Natural Citizen
12-26-2012, 04:38 PM
Here's something to consider when quoting CCHR to a dirty clueless "liberal"- they will instantly try to discredit it (even though CCHR is right in this case) by calling it a Scientology front.

Which it is. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Commission_on_Human_Rights) Once they throw this stink bomb no one listens anymore.

That's why links like that US Gov Institutes of Health link (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1564177/) is so good- the little dunderheads can't even begin to discredit it.

I'm not saying CCHR is bogus or wrong or bad or anything like that, I don't know hardly a thing about them besides what is in Wiki. Just sayin, if you use them in front of the sicko's you'll have to deal with the scientology thingy.

Regardless of who says what about anything, the terms of controversy remain the terms of controversy. Folks are free to spin themselves into any particular kind of circle they wish and as long as it keeps them amused and out of the way of actual progress then I say let them have at it.

PaulConventionWV
12-26-2012, 05:50 PM
It would probably be more fitting to try to name the school shootings that we know occurred without pharmaceuticals involved, either from "treatment", abuse, or withdrawal.

PaulConventionWV
12-26-2012, 05:53 PM
I agree with this to an extent... The question is why all the drugs. Because we are a quick fix nation. So the question is why are we a quick fix nation???

That seems like a very vague and possibly misleading question. We haven't examined the angles enough to know that it's all because we are a "quick fix nation" (whatever that is).

PaulConventionWV
12-26-2012, 09:27 PM
My question is, would the outcome be the same if these people completely neglected drugs and just continued to suffer with their mental conditions? It's easy to point at instances where people on medication commit crimes, just like one can point to instances where legal gun owners commit crimes. There's a bigger issue that must be tackled. It's the society we live in, which is creating these mental health issues.

It would be a much better outcome if these people neglected drugs. They may still suffer, but there are other ways to deal with that. You don't need these drugs. They only hurt, never help. It's easy to point to instances where people on medication commit crimes because it happens all of the freaking time. This stuff never happens with people who are completely sober. Give me one instance in which someone who didn't abuse anything did something like this. You'd be hard-pressed to find them.

Now, when you say "society", what do you mean? People think they can say society caused the problem and that gives us the answer. Actually, it gives us nothing. It's vague and it doesn't address any of the real issues. You might as well blame the universe. What good does that do? Blame the big bang theory. It leads us to the same conclusion as if we blamed society because "society" is mostly a fictional concept. People who blame society never have answers. They just blame society perpetually without actually saying what they think is happening. It's a bunch of bullshit if you ask me.

PaulConventionWV
12-26-2012, 09:30 PM
Take cocaine, you go to jail. Take ritalin, you go to school.

Peace Piper
12-27-2012, 05:33 AM
Regardless of who says what about anything, the terms of controversy remain the terms of controversy. Folks are free to spin themselves into any particular kind of circle they wish and as long as it keeps them amused and out of the way of actual progress then I say let them have at it.

I was trying to give you a heads up so you would be able to expect and/or avoid the inevitable scientology smear.

Sorry I bothered. Won't happen again. Good luck bringing up CCHR with the masses of fools. I guarantee you will remember this exchange one day.

Natural Citizen
12-27-2012, 06:51 AM
I was trying to give you a heads up so you would be able to expect and/or avoid the inevitable scientology smear.

Sorry I bothered. Won't happen again. Good luck bringing up CCHR with the masses of fools. I guarantee you will remember this exchange one day.

I know. Wasn't trying to be obtuse or anything. I just really don't care to even get into redundancy with some of those pre-packaged shenanigans anymore. It's just not worth it is all.

Thanks though.

Natural Citizen
12-30-2012, 02:52 PM
Adam Lanza's dead body to be used to criminalize innocents who have similar gene


(NaturalNews) Unknown sources are funneling money into new research aimed at finding the so-called "evil" gene that may have been responsible for the recent mass shooting that allegedly took place at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. According to the U.K.'s Daily Mail, researchers from the University of Connecticut have been tasked with dissecting the dead body of Adam Lanza, the young man accused of killing 20 children and six adults at the school, in search of a malformed or mutated gene that may have triggered his alleged bout of violent rage that fateful December 14 morning.

Even though there is technically no solid evidence proving that Lanza was even responsible for the killings in the first place, the mainstream media has already declared his guilt, which means the pressure is on to manufacture a reason for the killings in light of the fact that there is no identifiable motive. As you may recall, there were at least two other suspects who fled the scene that day, according to initial reports, one of whom was taken down in the woods next to the school. But these two suspects completely disappeared from all subsequent media reports, and Lanza was pinned as the patsy who committed the crimes (http://www.naturalnews.com (http://www.naturalnews.com/038409_Sandy_Hook_mainstream_media_mind_control.ht ml)).

Much of the "official story" surrounding the Sandy Hook massacre, in fact, makes no sense at all, and there are numerous glaring inconsistencies in virtually all major media reports that scream of a coverup. Nevertheless, the general public has apparently been hoodwinked yet again by what appears to be another false flag attack designed not only to eliminate the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, but also to identify a "flawed" gene that supposedly causes people to go on mass shooting sprees for no reason.

"They might look for mutations that might be associated with mental illnesses and ones that might also increase the risk for violence," explained Arthur Beaudet, a professor at the Baylor University College of Medicine in Texas, about the new research. "By studying genetic abnormalities we can learn more about conditions better and who is at risk and what might be dramatic treatments."

Such "dramatic treatments," of course, are sure to include heavy doses of various psychiatric medications, which have actually been shown to induce more erratic and violent behavior (http://www.naturalnews.com (http://www.naturalnews.com/038353_gun_control_psychiatric_drugs_Adam_Lanza.ht ml)). But what is even more concerning about this plan is that it will be used to criminalize innocent people who possess the "defective gene," and who will be declared guilty of crimes before they even happen -- or in Adam Lanza's case, be declared guilty without any evidence or a proper trial.

'Prepping,' storing guns at home to be criminalized along with 'evil' gene Once the researchers preparing the new study identify this "evil" gene, everyone who possesses that gene will become a criminal, or at the very least a major liability when it comes to getting a job that involves interacting with people. Those who possess the "evil" gene will likely never be hired at public schools, for instance, as their genetic "defect" will simply be too high of a risk -- "Think of the children!" they will surely say.

If this Big Brother control scenario is not disturbing enough, the Daily Mail also saw fit to include a caveat that perhaps Adam Lanza's mother's "prepping" tendencies may also have set him off. Described as a "prepper" who "stockpiled food and guns in readiness for a disaster," Nancy Lanza is all but blamed directly in the Daily Mail story for triggering her son Adam's alleged "mental condition."

So guns, prepping, and the "evil" gene are now all responsible for mass shootings, and we must do something about them immediately! Can you see the writing on the wall?

Sources for this article include:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2253797/DNA-Sandy-Hook-killer-Adam-Lanza-examined-evil-gene-study-kind-conducted-mass-murderer.html)

Pauls' Revere
12-30-2012, 03:03 PM
I agree with this to an extent... The question is why all the drugs. Because we are a quick fix nation. So the question is why are we a quick fix nation???

A social Pavolvian Response to insaitable instantaneous gratification. Everything, is expected to be "on demand".

AFPVet
12-30-2012, 04:15 PM
I can definitely agree that the SSRIs and antipsychotics are serious bad drugs, but benzodiazepines such as xanax, valium, ativan... are sedatives and will only result in a calm/sleepy feeling. They are some of the oldest sleeping medications, but they have a risk of dependency.

kcchiefs6465
12-30-2012, 04:31 PM
I can definitely agree that the SSRIs and antipsychotics are serious bad drugs, but benzodiazepines such as xanax, valium, ativan... are sedatives and will only result in a calm/sleepy feeling. They are some of the oldest sleeping medications, but they have a risk of dependency.
Xanax will make you do some shit you would not have normally done and literally forgetting all about it. I still have enemies because of my xanax days.. and quite honestly I can't remember why they hate me lol. (I literally woke up in jail with no recollection of why I was there, in a 'turtle suit.' Found out a few days later it was an OVI) I hardly take them anymore, but I can tell you with a certainty, take enough alprazolam and you will have a variety of these symptoms:

"The Physicians' Desk Reference lists the following adverse reactions (side effects) to antidepressants among a host of other physical and neuropsychiatric effects. None of these adverse reactions (side effects) is listed as Rare. They are all listed as either Frequent or as Infrequent:


* Manic Reaction (Mania, e.g., Kleptomania, Pyromania, Dipsomania, Nymphomania)
* Hypomania (e.g., poor judgment, over spending, impulsivity, etc.)
* Abnormal Thinking
* Hallucinations
* Personality Disorder
* Amnesia
* Agitation
* Psychosis
* Abnormal Dreams

* Emotional Lability (Or Instability)
* Alcohol Abuse and/or Craving
* Hostility
* Paranoid Reactions
* Confusion
* Delusions
* Sleep Disorders
* Akathisia (Severe Inner Restlessness)
* Discontinuation (Withdrawal) Syndrome
* Impulsivity"

I literally laughed out loud when I read through the list and was astounded by how accurate it is. Oh, and I become a kleptomaniac when I take xanax. I literally steal stupid shit for no reason and with no recollection of it. (I mean, something trivial like paper clips or something) I could tell you stories of waking up the next day with a treasure trove of items. A lot of times I'd be surprised and really have to ask myself, just why and the hell did I feel like I needed that last night? Of course, I was taking quite a lot of xanax and drinking. .5mg isn't going to do much but make you drowsy.

Mach
01-12-2013, 03:37 PM
Dr.Breggin helped the pharms evaluate their junk.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPx95sk7k1U

http://breggin.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=117


The Largest Loop Hole

But it gets worse. The primary data on suicidality has been generated in short-term controlled clinical trials planned by drug companies, carried out by drug company hacks, and evaluated by drug company employees at corporate headquarters. If that kind of carefully cultivated evaluation bears such bad fruit, imagine what the real data must show.









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added video


https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Peter+Breggin%2C+MD+-+FDA+Testimony+

Peace Piper
01-12-2013, 06:09 PM
Dr.Breggin helped the pharms evaluate their junk.
http://breggin.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=117

Excellent video. Everyone needs to see it-especially those that try to smear detractors with scientology mud. Breggin is no scientologist. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Breggin)

Looks kind of like Big Pharma/FDA strapped the American people on to the roof of their car and went 4 wheeling.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9226/99percentonroof.gif

This may turn out to be one of the biggest scandals in human history. Just imagine: In the middle of a "drug war" (wherein the Federal Government has been running a protection racket for their biggest customers) FDA sanctioned "medicine" is pushed on children no less, supported by bogus "studies", while Big Pharma makes billions and billions of dollars, using some of that to bribe other countries so they can dump their poisons onto those people.


Eli Lilly Settles SEC Case Involving Overseas Bribery Violations
December 20, 2012

Pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly and Co (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Lilly_and_Company). today agreed to pay $29.4 million to settle charges by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that it violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act by making improper payments to officials in Russia, Brazil, China, and Poland.

According to the SEC complaint filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, Eli Lilly subsidiaries made payments to win millions of dollars of overseas business. Lilly did not admit or deny the allegations, but in a statement the company said it "believes that this civil settlement brings resolution to issues from the past and is in the best interest of the company." http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2012/12/eli-lilly-settles-sec-case-involving-overseas-bribery-violations.html


This is happening right in front of everyone's eyes. And sometimes those of us that question this barge load of rubbish are slimed, ridiculed and called Luddites. Or Scientologists.

It's a regular 3 ring circus.

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/647/3ringcircus.jpg

Mach
01-12-2013, 11:06 PM
ADHD and Ritalin

The New York Times has labeled Breggin as the nation's best-known Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) critic. As early as 1991 he sardonically coined the acronym DADD, stating, "...most so-called ADHD children are not receiving sufficient attention from their fathers who are separated from the family, too preoccupied with work and other things, or otherwise impaired in their ability to parent. In many cases the appropriate diagnosis is Dad Attention Deficit Disorder (DADD)". Breggin has written two books specifically on the topic entitled, Talking Back to Ritalin and The Ritalin Factbook. In these books he has made controversial claims, such as "Ritalin 'works' by producing malfunctions in the brain rather than by improving brain function. This is the only way it works"

Peter R. Breggin, M.D






http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/647/3ringcircus.jpg

Is that Ron Paul?

Natural Citizen
01-13-2013, 08:27 PM
Dr. Peter R. Breggin discussing the complicity of Big Pharma and psychiatry on the evening of the Sandy hook Shooting.

Some may find it useful. Peeter makes the best case and discusses the correct platform in dealing with the mentality of trustees in modern chemestry.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTiE7OpRGGQ

Anti Federalist
02-15-2018, 10:22 PM
Relevant bump