Rifle wasn't even used... He used two pistols...

[Reason]

I don't see the mainstream media going out of their way to correct this little piece of info...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/15/article-2248197-16857C87000005DC-954_634x1030.jpg

[cbrons]

Well they won't correct it because they don't see it as being important, showing their own bias. We have a de facto statist media, marching lock-step with the gun-grabbing tyrants.

[DerailingDaTrain]

They're reporting now that he shot the kids 3-11 times each with the Bushmaster and had two pistols near his person as well. A fourth "long gun" was found in the car.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

I don't see the mainstream media going out of their way to correct this little piece of info...

Even point one says two "automatic handguns," whatever that is. (Ok, I know what it is technically... just don't believe it.)

[Ronulus]

They also reported that his mom teached at the school for 20 years. In reality she was never employed there.

[pcosmar]

The story has changed several times. First reports (From Police) was 3 dead including the gunman and a rifle .223 was used.

Reports were of a second shooter,, and one was pursued and arrested.

The story has "developed" since. And logic is lacking.

I would be very interested in ballistic and forensic evidence,, (which will never be seen)
Who was the second guy? (he has vanished from all stories)
Where did the reports of the rifle come from? (it was not found till a later search of his car.)

Many questions lead to obvious speculation.

[Origanalist]

Many questions lead to obvious speculation.

It happens every time, they seem to "adjust" the story as they go along.

[matt0611]

I've seen conflicting reports. First there was no evidence the rifle was used, then I heard he did shoot with it...

[Expatriate]

I've seen conflicting reports. First there was no evidence the rifle was used, then I heard he did shoot with it...

People hear what they want to hear. If a bunch of mistaken information is put out in the media and later corrected, it still has an effect. If someone on the fence suddenly decided it was time to ban AR-15s because of the news they heard, do you think they are going to go back on that decision when (or if) they hear that the media retracted what they said?

[LibertyRevolution]

The local paper here says he used the riffle.
He used it to shoot the glass door to gain entry, then turned and used it to shoot a bunch of the kids.
They have recovered shell casing from a .223 high power riffle.

[newbitech]

see where they are talking about his mom being a "member" of the "doomsday prepper" "movement"?

Even the guys former classmates they found to interview seem to give conflicting accounts of who he was. Many of them say he always wore black trench coats, but the only picture of him he's wearing white.

Also, I have a problem with the report that 7 kids were shot 3-11 times each. that's between 21 and 77 rounds and yet 13 more children plus 6 adults were killed. The 3 guns in this report have 65 rounds total. Did he reload?

I have heard of any clips being found laying around yet. I have heard 4 weapons were used, also heard 2 handguns were recovered and 1 rifle in the car.

Seems like the story has some serious holes in what should be a pretty much open and shut case as far as evidence goes.

And I just read were the kids was described as both "goth" and a "techie". Both hanging out with smart people and hanging out with freaks. I don't know. His dad is a GE exec, had a 1.6million dollar home, was paying 325,000 a year in support.

I gotta believe there is much more to this story besides the "shape" and "spin" that the "authorities" and media are putting on it.

[pcosmar]

The local paper here says he used the riffle.
He used it to shoot the glass door to gain entry, then turned and used it to shoot a bunch of the kids.
They have recovered shell casing from a .223 high power riffle.

And how is that possible if the rifle was locked in his trunk..
(unless there was a second shooter)

[youngbuck]

They have recovered shell casing from a .223 high power riffle.

As opposed to a .223 low power rifle? Or did you add the "high power" power for effect?

[madengr]

Not to mention .223 are uncommon as opposed to 5.56mm.

I read the long gun in the car was a Saiga 12. The media will just make shit up, tossing out names of guns to condition the sheep.

[pcosmar]

Not to mention .223 are uncommon as opposed to 5.56mm.

Nope,, not really.
Stacks of it at Walmart. And it is very often used in rifles that are chambered for 5.56.
5.56 and .223 are virtually interchangeable. (for practical purposes)

[madengr]

I was thinking of the rifle itself. I have not seen a true .223 in a long time.

[erowe1]

Nope,, not really.
Stacks of it at Walmart. And it is very often used in rifles that are chambered for 5.56.
5.56 and .223 are virtually interchangeable. (for practical purposes)

Plus, if all they're talking about is a shell casing someone found, they wouldn't necessarily be expected to be precise about it. Either of those are clearly enough not from a handgun.

I think part of the problem is that it's not clear that the 2 handguns were the only ones he used. There was a rifle in the trunk, two handguns with him, plus whatever other gun/s he used that haven't been named yet.

[Noob]

They even said he was home schooled.

[Brian4Liberty]

Unfortunately, it's completely normal for people to repeat rumors and falsehoods. The media is a failure, as they freely reports unsubstantiated rumors. On top of that, they also spin and exclude information, as is their duty as the propaganda arm of the "Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex."

[pcosmar]

I was thinking of the rifle itself. I have not seen a true .223 in a long time.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_60/products_id/61658/Bushmaster+A1+Semi-Automatic+223+Remington5.56+NATO+30%2B1
http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_473701_-1

And I just pulled up a couple of Bushmasters,, (the brand that was mentioned by police/media)
I could pull a bunch more of various other brands.

[muzzled dogg]

I was surprised to hear a female teacher at a public school in the liberal northeast had more than one pistol and a rifle

[pcosmar]

I think part of the problem is that it's not clear that the 2 handguns were the only ones he used. There was a rifle in the trunk, two handguns with him, plus whatever other gun/s he used that haven't been named yet.

Or one someone else had. (the reported second person)

Did the response team fire any?

Story of full of fail. (omissions/distractions/ and lies)