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Schifference
12-15-2012, 05:44 AM
AUSTIN, Texas -- A deputy police chief in South Texas has asked legislators to consider setting up permanent DWI checkpoints to save lives.

San Antonio police Deputy Chief Anthony Trevino appeared Monday in Austin before the Texas House Criminal Jurisprudence Committee.

The San Antonio Express-News reports Trevino urged legislators to allow law officers to stop drivers and do routine sobriety tests near so-called drinking-and-driving “hot spots.” He says local data could be used to identify areas where such behavior is prevalent.

Trevino says San Antonio this year has had more than 7,000 arrests for driving while intoxicated.

Jim Harrington with the Texas Civil Rights Project argued against the proposal, saying sobriety checkpoints allow for police manipulation and abuse of power.

The Legislature convenes in January.
http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/Texas-deputy-police-chief-wants-DWI-checkpoints--182002221.html

aGameOfThrones
12-15-2012, 06:00 AM
OT heaven.

presence
12-15-2012, 08:30 AM
IV



The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Oath of Enlistment

I, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

HOLLYWOOD
12-15-2012, 08:44 AM
Please remember, this isn't just a permanent DWI checkpoint, it's a checkpoint for anything: valid insurance, registration, licenses, citizen status, traffic fines due, drugs, cash/currency check, failure to maintain, warrants check.

America has become the new Soviet Union/KGB/Nazi state

Origanalist
12-15-2012, 09:52 AM
Papers please.

Scratch that, show me your dam papers or I'll empty my gun into you..do it now!

acptulsa
12-15-2012, 10:01 AM
First they designed cities in such a way that bicycling is dangerous, mass transit is ineffective because of major inconvenience, and walking takes way too long. Then they decided that by driving a car, you voluntarily waive all of your Constitutional rights...

Keith and stuff
12-15-2012, 11:35 AM
Does TX and many other states already have permanent checkpoints at the border? Plus there are the roving checkpoints. Plus the DWI checkpoints. Now this?

Aeroneous
12-15-2012, 11:37 AM
Does TX and many other states already have permanent checkpoints at the border? Plus there are the roving checkpoints. Plus the DWI checkpoints. Now this?

Which border? There aren't any between TX and OK.

acptulsa
12-15-2012, 12:02 PM
Does TX and many other states already have permanent checkpoints at the border?

Truck weigh scales aside, I've never seen or heard of such a thing in the U.S. except where California is concerned.

Keith and stuff
12-15-2012, 12:06 PM
Which border? There aren't any between TX and OK.

The US/Mexican border.

presence
12-15-2012, 01:16 PM
The US/Mexican border.

Those are called border crossings. The border control check points are


located between 25 and 75 miles of the Mexico – United States border (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_–_United_States_border) along major U.S. highways (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highways).
[and]
within 100 miles from the Canadian border.[/URL]


[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_Interior_Checkpoints (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_Interior_Checkpoints#c ite_note-COE2011-3)

tangowhiskeykilo
12-15-2012, 01:24 PM
Is this within the constitution free zone? http://www.aclu.org/constitution-free-zone-map

Brian4Liberty
12-15-2012, 01:33 PM
Just remember, this isn't just a permanent DWI checkpoint, it's a checkpoint for anything: valid insurance, registration, licenses, citizen status, traffic fines due, drugs, cash/currency check, failure to maintain, warrants check.

America has become the new Soviet Union/KGB/Nazi state

Don't forget to search your person and effects for guns.

presence
12-15-2012, 01:34 PM
Is this within the constitution free zone? http://www.aclu.org/constitution-free-zone-map
Actually Austin, TX is about 120 miles from the coast, so no... this is in constitutional territory.

kcchiefs6465
12-15-2012, 01:42 PM
Is this within the constitution free zone? http://www.aclu.org/constitution-free-zone-map
I've yet to hear this.. any other information you can provide? What exactly does it mean to live within it? You still get a trial by jury, etc.

ETA: I assume it is only in regards to the 4th?

Anti Federalist
12-15-2012, 02:09 PM
Actually Austin, TX is about 120 miles from the coast, so no... this is in constitutional territory.

The byline on the story is Austin, but the police force that is going to carry that out is in San Antonio, so no, no constitution for you, Mundane.

http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/cfz_map/Image-Map.gif

tangowhiskeykilo
12-15-2012, 02:10 PM
I've yet to hear this.. any other information you can provide? What exactly does it mean to live within it? You still get a trial by jury, etc.

ETA: I assume it is only in regards to the 4th?

Decent information here. http://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/fact-sheet-us-constitution-free-zone

Some damning info
-Nine of the top 10 largest metropolitan areas as determined by the 2000 census, fall within the Constitution-free Zone. (The only exception is #9, Dallas-Fort Worth.) Some states are considered to lie completely within the zone: Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island and Vermont.
-This trend is also typical of the Bush Administration’s dragnet approach to law enforcement and national security. Instead of intelligent, competent, targeted efforts to stop terrorism, illegal immigration, and other crimes, what we have been seeing in area after area is an approach that turns us all into suspects. This approach seeks to sift through the entire U.S. population in the hopes of encountering the rare individual whom the authorities have a legitimate interest in.

nobody's_hero
12-15-2012, 02:14 PM
Better idea:

If everyone were exterminated at birth then it would save lives because some of those people might grow up to be mass murderers. --- Logic of the statist

Anti Federalist
12-15-2012, 02:24 PM
Better idea:

If everyone were exterminated at birth then it would save lives because some of those people might grow up to be mass murderers. --- Logic of the statist

Nothing new here.

Roughly 2013 years ago, the "powers that be" of that time did exactly that, trying to kill an infant that was going to grow up and become a threat to their power.

Keith and stuff
12-15-2012, 03:58 PM
-Nine of the top 10 largest metropolitan areas as determined by the 2000 census, fall within the Constitution-free Zone.

I's pretty sure the federal government ignores all of the parts of the Constitution it doesn't like, anywhere in the country, whenever it wants to do so :(