Bioshock Infinite pissing off both Unions and the Tea Party.

[BenIsForRon]

http://www.shacknews.com/article/77065/bioshock-infinite-creator-hearing-criticism-from-opposite-political-sides

Which means it must have a good message.

[FrankRep]

Bioshock Infinite pissing off both Unions and the Tea Party.

Which means it must have a good message.


Correction: "... relatives of mine were very offended, because they thought it was an attack on the Tea Party."

The Tea Party has not released any statements.

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GamePolitics.com (2011): Political Themes in BioShock Infinite Mirror OWS, Tea Party (http://gamepolitics.com/2011/10/28/political-themes-bioshock-infinite-mirror-ows-tea-party#.UMyDj3dIUs8)


In BioShock Infinite a fight has erupted between two factions: the Founders and the group Vox Populi. Levine claims that the Vox Populi is based loosely on the Baader-Meinhof Group, a left-leaning German student movement that devolved into extremism in the mid-1970s to become the RAF (Red Army Faction).

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Wikipedia: Red Army Faction (Baader-Meinhof) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction)


The Red Army Faction or Red Army Fraction in its early stages commonly known as Baader-Meinhof Group (or Baader-Meinhof Gang), was post–World War II Germany's most prominent left-wing militant group. The RAF was founded in 1970 by Andreas Baader, Gudrun Ensslin, Horst Mahler, and Ulrike Meinhof. The RAF described itself as a communist and anti-imperialist "urban guerrilla" group engaged in armed resistance against what they deemed to be a fascist state. As such, members of the RAF generally used the Marxist-Leninist term "Faction" when they wrote in English.




Sounds like the game may have a Pro-Communist message, which might be "good" in your opinion.

[BenIsForRon]

It doesn't depict the Vox Populi in a positive light though. Stop being dumb and not understanding stuff Frank Rep, you fuck up too many threads.

[talkingpointes]

Yeah, if anyone thinks this franchise has ever put collectivism in a positive light they need to actually play the series.

[sluggo]

Can't wait. Loved the first two.

[EBounding]

Play System Shock 2 if you want a real FPS-RPG that's really frightening.

[emazur]

Play System Shock 2 if you want a real FPS-RPG that's really frightening.

I own it but it made a bad first impression on me - high difficulty, corridors all look the same, respawning enemies, and I have no interest in learning to mix dozens of chemicals

[AuH20]

Bioshock is a great series, but this particular version takes some unnecessary shots at the Founding Fathers. But it is just fiction, so you roll with it.

[FrankRep]

http://www.shacknews.com/article/77065/bioshock-infinite-creator-hearing-criticism-from-opposite-political-sides

Which means it must have a good message.


After looking at the Plot and background information about the game, I really don't see anything that would be considered a "good message." it's just a game based on fiction so I remain neutral on it.

Wikipedia: BioShock Infinite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioShock_Infinite

[VIDEODROME]

Playing Bioshock 2 right now.

I just take the series as loosely challenging different ideologies. Or at least showing the dark side of them.

But I only take it as the backdrop of a sci-fi game. I don't take any of this game as a serious effort to analyze political philosophies. I'd almost equate it to the movie V for Vendetta which was a very watered down version of the Alan Moore book. In Rapture, I think the exploration of these kinds of politics is literally watered down. :p


otherwise, I have to say this game could be an interesting film and I wish James Cameron would look at it.

[AGRP]

"He viewed African-Americans as a lesser race. He just thought they should be free. Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. George Washington owned slaves. People were men of their times, and this is a game that's set in a time where, if you don’t have those elements in the game, it's just dishonest, you know?"

Yeah. Free to be sent back to africa lol.

[2young2vote]

I'm just glad that there are games that are even discussing this kind of topic. Too many games are just aim/shoot or have some pointless story about saving your wife or something. The Bioshock series actually tries to go above the norm and do something special and I appreciate that, even if I don't necessarily agree with the way things are portrayed.

[cbrons]

http://www.shacknews.com/article/77065/bioshock-infinite-creator-hearing-criticism-from-opposite-political-sides

Which means it must have a good message.

Haha true. The first Bioshock was kinda dumb though, in that it showed "total anarchy" as leading to totalitarianism, but actually it was sort of a de facto fascist setup to begin with.