Is America Too Big?

[Origanalist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCNd7h0fsdE&feature=player_embedded

http://lsrebellion.blogspot.com/2012/12/is-america-too-big.html

[TheTexan]

Way too big

[Origanalist]

Way too big

The bigger they are.....

[DamianTV]

The bigger they are.....

The bigger they need their Central Bank to be?

[Origanalist]

I think you're on to something.

[opal]

Good topic.. I can see this thread going epic in length.

While I agree we're just way too big for our britches - I also like that people in Alaska and Hawaii are part of the same country. Making congress bigger for better representation to me just says bigger out of hand govt

[heavenlyboy34]

Just want to bump this so folks can see this. I've run into some pretty severe opposition to this and I think this vid makes a good case.

[ifthenwouldi]

It's an old question:

http://www.constitution.org/afp/brutus01.htm


History furnishes no example of a free republic, any thing like the extent of the United States. The Grecian republics were of small extent; so also was that of the Romans. Both of these, it is true, in process of time, extended their conquests over large territories of country; and the consequence was, that their governments were changed from that of free governments to those of the most tyrannical that ever existed in the world.


The territory of the United States is of vast extent; it now contains near three millions of souls, and is capable of containing much more than ten times that number. Is it practicable for a country, so large and so numerous as they will soon become, to elect a representation, that will speak their sentiments, without their becoming so numerous as to be incapable of transacting public business? It certainly is not.


In a republic of such vast extent as the United-States, the legislature cannot attend to the various concerns and wants of its different parts. It cannot be sufficiently numerous to be acquainted with the local condition and wants of the different districts, and if it could, it is impossible it should have sufficient time to attend to and provide for all the variety of cases of this nature, that would be continually arising.

[heavenlyboy34]

It's an old question:

http://www.constitution.org/afp/brutus01.htm
I love Brutus. :) Anti-Federalists FTW! :D

[mport1]

Agreed let's start my getting rid of the federal government. That is most important. Then we can get rid of state and local. We need a scale of 1. Self government.

The idea that "we are the government" is laughable. There is not a single politician that effective can represent any person in this county, much less nearly a million of them simultaneously.

[FindLiberty]

interesting concept.

[Origanalist]

Agreed let's start my getting rid of the federal government. That is most important. Then we can get rid of state and local. We need a scale of 1. Self government.

The idea that "we are the government" is laughable. There is not a single politician that effective can represent any person in this county, much less nearly a million of them simultaneously.

Let just try to get started in the right direction, right now it seems almost impossible. It's easy enough to preach to the choir here, but maybe this video would be a good vehicle for planting seeds elsewhere.

[CaptUSA]

This video was probably the most depressing thing I've seen all year.

[PaulConventionWV]

Yes. Next question.

[Lucille]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?398314-America-Is-Too-Big-To-Be-Free

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?397985-Should-the-congress-or-senate-be-bigger

[Lucille]

The Problem, Dear Brutus, Lies Not in the Size
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/128322.html

[Origanalist]

The Problem, Dear Brutus, Lies Not in the Size
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/128322.html


December 13, 2012


The Problem, Dear Brutus, Lies Not in the Size

Posted by Becky Akers on December 13, 2012 01:32 PM


Lew, I loved the clip you posted a few days ago, with a couple of scholars arguing that America is too big for freedom to flourish, that with around 300 million residents and 435 “representatives” in Congress it has exceeded all human scale and become dysfunctional.

It’s a provocative point. But anyone who lives under the despotism of a homeowner’s association, anyone who’s argued with and lost to a petty tyrant at a local bureaucracy, anyone who’s groveled to a cop but failed to avoid a ticket, proves that the problem isn’t government’s size. Rather, it is government itself, its very nature, its brute force and compulsion.

We won’t live free until government is abolished, totally, completely, down to its last ratty little bureaucrat. Good riddance to exceedingly bad trash.


I find it hard not to agree.

[heavenlyboy34]

I find it hard not to agree.
It's true, but verboten around here.

[Origanalist]

It's true, but verboten around here.

Oh I don't know, it seems to me it gets mentioned now and then.