Union Thugs in Michigan... classy!

[itshappening]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_F3oev06i0

Wow... this is what we're dealing with !

[Acala]

The gun under the table.

[gwax23]

typical behavior from people like that.

[Confederate]

Fucking animals.

Although in a way I'm a bit happy that Steven Crowder got his face punched.

[AuH20]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/11/hoffa-predicts-civil-war-in-michigan/

[Confederate]

"What they're doing is basically betraying democracy," he told CNN's Brooke Baldwin.

Democratically elected representatives voting on a issue which passes by a majority in both houses of the state legislature is "betraying democracy????"

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

Was just coming here to post this. These people are f'n nuts.

[specsaregood]

Democratically elected representatives voting on a issue which passes by a majority in both houses of the state legislature is "betraying democracy????"

Yes, as democracy = mob rule.

[AuH20]

Unions = good.
Militias = bad.

ROFL

[AGRP]

Its Steven Choder. The guy who wants to prohibit marijuana.

[cajuncocoa]

Disgusting.

[Demigod]

Did the first guy said that "They can benefit from all the parasitical benefits and outrages ... pay??? the unions have negotiated for free ".You really have to be something to know that all you do is blackmail and be proud of it.

Having mandatory government unions,or having mandatory unions at all is outrages.I mean we didn't have mandatory unions even in socialism,let alone now.

[Brian4Liberty]

CNBC did a report on this and portrayed it as though it was the Police harassing the Union members. They took footage after the attack when the Police came in, and it implied that the Police were hitting and pushing these innocent Union protesters.

[Lucille]

Fucking animals.

Although in a way I'm a bit happy that Steven Crowder got his face punched.

Heh.

ZH (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-11/meanwhile-lansing-michigan) has another vid of the progs' peaceful demonstration and rational discourse:


Incidentally, these same workers would be better advised to direct their anger at Chairman Bernanke who has done everything in his power in the past several years to shift the balance of power far more in benefit of capital courtesy of ZIRP and zero cost of capital, which allows companies to cut as many workers as needed in order to pursue the almight bottom line dollar, while extracting unprecedented productivity gains out of those still employed, as workers no longer can fall back on savings and are forced to accept any labor conditions in a New Normal world in which living paycheck to paycheck is becoming the norm for most, and thus giving employers all the leverage.

But that is a philosophical debate for a different place. But for now, here are two short clips to serve as a harbinger of what may and most likely will happen in the US as labor unions are stripped of even more power in the coming months and years, showcasing their reluctance to go gentle into that good night. This is how close the US is from violence at any one moment.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtbWbw66KrI

Malkin has more:

hxxp://michellemalkin.com/2012/12/11/video-gallery-of-union-thuggery-in-michigan/

[SpreadOfLiberty]

I really dislike angry unions.

[nobody's_hero]

It's times like this I'm glad I live way the fuck out in the countryside.

Then, I think, it probably won't save me from falling victim to the mobs, but rather, I'll just be the last to fall. :(

LOL at one youtube comment:


hegreenfamilybooks 1 minute ago

For union workers, they sure got that tent down fast!

[nobody's_hero]

Happened to one of our GA for Ron Paul state coordinators, Bill Greene a while back as well. (watch for a guy in a green sweater around 2:50).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUKJllTweE

[FrancisMarion]

Meanwhile, the one who decided to go to work instead received a promotion and a raise.

[itshappening]

It's times like this I'm glad I live way the fuck out in the countryside.

Then, I think, it probably won't save me from falling victim to the mobs, but rather, I'll just be the last to fall. :(

LOL at one youtube comment:

The mobs are coming for you dude. when people are hungry and need shelter they're going to go on the rampage.

[Tod]

Happened to one of our GA for Ron Paul state coordinators, Bill Greene a while back as well. (watch for a guy in a green sweater around 2:50).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUKJllTweE

Policeman refused to arrest the union guy who shoved. Cop probably a union guy too. Protecting his fellow union member (even though different union).

[angelatc]

I wanted to go, but I was reluctant to go alone. Makes me sad that I missed all the fun.

[Rudeman]

Did anyone else find the freeloader comment ironic? These same people support the current welfare system.

[EBounding]

Unions can't exist without threats and violence.

[HOLLYWOOD]

This country is doomed. These clowns can't see a foot in front of their noses whats truly caused the strife in this country/planet. I can imagine the banksters sipping on 100 year Remy Martin's Louis XIII. Just chuckling how the proletariat are just red and black ants squabbling over dirt as the referee (US government) throws them crumbs.

http://www.seektress.com/frank.jpg

[pochy1776]

Some say that AFP took it down themselves to portray the unions as evil. i dunno, they were pretty pissed.

[Kodaddy]

I'm not sure I understand...you can still join a union in a right-to-work state, right? Nobody is prohibiting anyone from joining a union, right? Why would anyone want someone in their union that didn't want to be there? Doesn't make sense...

[Pisces]

I'm not sure I understand...you can still join a union in a right-to-work state, right? Nobody is prohibiting anyone from joining a union, right? Why would anyone want someone in their union that didn't want to be there? Doesn't make sense...

They can't force workers to pay union dues now. It's all about the money.

[awake]

Democratically elected representatives voting on a issue which passes by a majority in both houses of the state legislature is "betraying democracy????"

I believe in democracy only when the outcome is in my favor. If it doesn't go my way, then I want a strong man to make sure that it does.

Meet the bullies.

[awake]

They can't force workers to pay union dues now. It's all about the money.

This is breaking the back of the unions by removing their power to tax. The principle that the government is championing is ironically the same one that applies to the whole federal government. They need to tread lightly, lest the smart ones catch on.

[belian78]

This is breaking the back of the unions by removing their power to tax. The principle that the government is championing is ironically the same one that applies to the whole federal government. They need to tread lightly, lest the smart ones catch on.
You're way more optimistic than I, friend.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

The mobs are coming for you dude. when people are hungry and need shelter they're going to go on the rampage.


They better come with more than that. lol That old guy is lucky he didn't get his ass beat.

[matt0611]

This is what democracy looks like.

[malkusm]

Meanwhile, the one who decided to go to work instead received a promotion and a raise.

You must not have much experience with unions - I'm willing to bet that the crowd in that video was being paid by the union to attend.

[VoluntaryAmerican]

AUSTERITY BABY - bright it on.

[AuH20]

AUSTERITY BABY - bright it on.

It must a SHARED SACRIFICE! (Don't you just loving using the statist lexicon?)

[FrancisMarion]

You must not have much experience with unions - I'm willing to bet that the crowd in that video was being paid by the union to attend.

You are correct. Absolutely none.

[rprprs]

My question: Is Right to Work legislation in Michigan now an ABSOLUTE & IRREVOCABLE done deal? If there is any way it could be challenged or overturned, I would imagine there will be continued tremendous pressure to do so, including pressure from the Obama administration at the federal level.

[BAllen]

Here's the rub. In a right to work state like here in NC, one does not have to join the union to get union pay. I think if someone doesn't want to join the union, fine. But they must negotiate for their pay with mgmt. instead of just getting the union pay automatically without contributing. That's about as bad as being forced to join the union. Then again, the corp. could just pay more than union wages to get everyone to quit the union, then drop the pay back down after the union loses all its members.

[SpreadOfLiberty]

Crowder tells thug to fight him in MMA match or he will press charges and send him to jail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ooEkSlNFEwE

[cbrons]

Unions = good.
Militias = bad.

ROFL
Lol. Im gunna address the union goons heavy on my show tomorrow hopefully.

I bet that assault doesnt fare well for the union image.

[FrankRep]

Lol. Im gunna address the union goons heavy on my show tomorrow hopefully.

Mention this:


Rep. Ron Paul: Want More Jobs? End Political Cronyism, Support Right To Work Laws (http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-09-12/ron-paul-want-more-jobs-end-political-cronyism-and-support-right-to-work-legislation/)
Sept. 12, 2011

[puppetmaster]

I saw this on fox this morning and swear I heard this guy say he was going to kill whitey.......did I hear that correctly?

[V-rod]

Crowder is a douchey, phony conservative comedian wannabe.

Still shouldn't give the thug who punched him a free pass.

[angelatc]

This is breaking the back of the unions by removing their power to tax. The principle that the government is championing is ironically the same one that applies to the whole federal government. They need to tread lightly, lest the smart ones catch on.

In bizarroland, one of the memes that went around Twitter yesterday was that union dues equated to taxes, in that because everybody got the benefit, everybody should pay the fees. (Yes, I know - there is so much wrong with that statement that rebutting it in 140 characters was impossible.)

On the bright side, my son walked into one of his classes, and his teacher was wearing a red shirt. He asked her if she was supporting the RTW legislation, and she said,"Oh God no! Is that today?" He saw her later in the lunchroom and she was wearing a lab coat. :)

[angelatc]

You must not have much experience with unions - I'm willing to bet that the crowd in that video was being paid by the union to attend.

They bussed people in from as far away as West Virginia.

[UWDude]

This is breaking the back of the unions by removing their power to tax. The principle that the government is championing is ironically the same one that applies to the whole federal government. They need to tread lightly, lest the smart ones catch on.

Unions can't put someone in prison if they don't pay the "tax", so it isn't a "tax".

If someone doesn't like working for a union shop, they can go find a job elsewhere.

There is no "force" involved.

[Acala]

Unions can't put someone in prison if they don't pay the "tax", so it isn't a "tax".

If someone doesn't like working for a union shop, they can go find a job elsewhere.

There is no "force" involved.

In the private sector, if the employer and the union, without coercion from government or the gun under the table, agree to a closed shop, then you are correct.

The public sector should never allow a closed shop because it costs the taxpayers more money.

[CaptUSA]

If someone doesn't like working for a union shop, they can go find a job elsewhere.

There is no "force" involved.You do realize that unions are a third party, right? I'd agree that if you don't like wokring for a company, you can go elsewhere, but you shouldn't be obligated to pay a third party for the privilege of working for that company. Of course, you shouldn't be able to capitalize on the benefits of collective bargaining either.

[Acala]

Here's the rub. In a right to work state like here in NC, one does not have to join the union to get union pay. I think if someone doesn't want to join the union, fine. But they must negotiate for their pay with mgmt. instead of just getting the union pay automatically without contributing. That's about as bad as being forced to join the union. Then again, the corp. could just pay more than union wages to get everyone to quit the union, then drop the pay back down after the union loses all its members.

Everyone, management and worker, should be free to negotiate in whatever manner they wish and come to whatever terms they can without interference of government or threats of violence.

[nobody's_hero]

I think it's ironic that union members pay dues which get contributed to democrat campaigns, which then those democrats regulate their employers right out of the U.S. Some areas in Detroit look like ex-Soviet town of Pripyat after the Chernobyl disaster.

It's pretty much a given that whenever a company agrees to let workers unionize, the only way to get out of the contract is to fold the company or move overseas.

[angelatc]

Unions can't put someone in prison if they don't pay the "tax", so it isn't a "tax".

If someone doesn't like working for a union shop, they can go find a job elsewhere. It's not their company.


There is no "force" involved.Not any more :)

The unions screwed their own pooch here. When Granholm was in, they rammed a deal through that made everybody who was getting paid home healthcare dollars a union member. (That included parents caring for their disabled children.) Of course, that means that money meant to go to sick kids was flowing into union coffers, without any discernible benefits to the newly minted members.

There was no real vote to do this - they claimed that they sent postcards to everybody, and a majority came back marked "yes," but even the union-friendly media reported that they couldn't find anybody who had actually received the card and voted at all.

The new GOP legislature overturned the law, and the unions immediately got an injunction, and sued. They lost there, too. But they got to collect dues for over two years on that scam.

They got worried about getting the RTW legislation passed here, but the Governor said that he wasn't going to pursue it. In return, they tried to get the voters to amend the Constitution in a manner that would have made it illegal for the legislature to pass Right To Work laws. Note that they were intentionally deceptive about the real effect on the amendment - they insisted that collective bargaining could vanish without it. While yesterday's chatter insisted that the people didn't want Right To Work, I believe if that were true they would have campaigned for their amendment on its true merit. The fact that they didn't is very telling.

The Governor, who is a moderate, tried to tell them that these things were creating a firestorm in the house. He told them that if they tried this amendment, that he wouldn't be able to stop the RTW bills. They went ahead, I suppose assuming that he was soft enough to not sign the bills. But apparently he has a thing about negotiating in good faith, and agreeing not to pursue a RTW bill meant that they shouldn't have gone after an anti-RTW bill either.

I suppose Libertarians actually should view this as government intrusion. The unions negotiate with the employer, and the deals to hold out union dues from all employees is based on that agreement. But here's the rub - as an employer, I can't demand that all my employees donate to causes I agree with. Liberals would never support, say, me hiring people and insisting they had to donate $10 a week to Suzu's cat rescue if they wanted to work there. They would likely get upset if I gave merely assigned premium parking spaces to employees who donated.

The ship about what employees can and can't do to their employee's salaries sailed a long time ago. The unions just managed to carve out a special exception for themselves all these years.

Philosophically, I guess I don't support it, but in reality - it's nice to see their own anti-employer logic coming around to bite them.

[AuH20]

It's not their company.

Not any more :)

The unions screwed their own pooch here. When Granholm was in, they rammed a deal through that made everybody who was getting paid home healthcare dollars a union member. (That included parents caring for their disabled children.) Of course, that means that money meant to go to sick kids was flowing into union coffers, without any discernible benefits to the newly minted members.

There was no real vote to do this - they claimed that they sent postcards to everybody, and a majority came back marked "yes," but even the union-friendly media reported that they couldn't find anybody who had actually received the card and voted at all.

The new GOP legislature overturned the law, and the unions immediately got an injunction, and sued. They lost there, too. But they got to collect dues for over two years on that scam.

They got worried about getting the RTW legislation passed here, but the Governor said that he wasn't going to pursue it. In return, they tried to get the voters to amend the Constitution in a manner that would have made it illegal for the legislature to pass Right To Work laws. Note that they were intentionally deceptive about the real effect on the amendment - they insisted that collective bargaining could vanish without it. While yesterday's chatter insisted that the people didn't want Right To Work, I believe if that were true they would have campaigned for their amendment on its true merit. The fact that they didn't is very telling.

The Governor, who is a moderate, tried to tell them that these things were creating a firestorm in the house. He told them that if they tried this amendment, that he wouldn't be able to stop the RTW bills. They went ahead, I suppose assuming that he was soft enough to not sign the bills. But apparently he has a thing about negotiating in good faith, and agreeing not to pursue a RTW bill meant that they shouldn't have gone after an anti-RTW bill either.

I suppose Libertarians actually should view this as government intrusion. The unions negotiate with the employer, and the deals to hold out union dues from all employees is based on that agreement. But here's the rub - as an employer, I can't demand that all my employees donate to causes I agree with. Liberals would never support, say, me hiring people and insisting they had to donate $10 a week to Suzu's cat rescue if they wanted to work there. They would likely get upset if I gave merely assigned premium parking spaces to employees who donated.

The ship about what employees can and can't do to their employee's salaries sailed a long time ago. The unions just managed to carve out a special exception for themselves all these years.

Philosophically, I guess I don't support it, but in reality - it's nice to see their own anti-employer logic coming around to bite them.

Yup, the outright failure of Prop #2 brought this forth. The Unions inadevertently laid the seeds for their own destruction. Serves them right.

[youngbuck]

LOL! After the assault occurs on the video, you hear someone yell "He's got a gun!" @ :49. Then, I thin it's the same guy yells: "I'll kill a mother fu***r with a gun! I've killed plenty of mother fu***rs with [read: who had] a gun!" LOLOLOLOL.:rolleyes:

[AuH20]

LOL! After the assault occurs on the video, you hear someone yell "He's got a gun!" @ :49. Then, I thin it's the same guy yells: "I'll kill a mother fu***r with a gun! I've killed plenty of mother fu***rs with [read: who had] a gun!" LOLOLOLOL.:rolleyes:

These fools have no idea how in over their heads they are. I heard that as well. My advice to these goons. Don't bring a gun to a rifle fight. ;)

[angelatc]

These fools have no idea how in over their heads they are. I heard that as well. My advice to these goons. Don't bring a gun to a rifle fight. ;)

Crowder challenged the guy to an MMA fight. I'm not so sure I'd pick Crowder to win. Old guys can be pretty mean.

[HOLLYWOOD]

I think it's ironic that union members pay dues which get contributed to democrat campaigns, which then those democrats regulate their employers right out of the U.S. Some areas in Detroit look like ex-Soviet town of Pripyat after the Chernobyl disaster.

It's pretty much a given that whenever a company agrees to let workers unionize, the only way to get out of the contract is to fold the company or move overseas.Political Croyism... I wouldn't put it past the US government(especially the government union leaders) to incite the "other unions" to commit the protests, destruction, and violence.

I've been in unions and management... if I had a choice, it's like "COOL", now I have money for myself/family and/or can donate to the prostitute of my choice. I look at it like this: Those that live off or buy influence by flow of union dues, will always push to keep the cash flowing, especially government unions. AFSCME

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Crowder challenged the guy to an MMA fight. I'm not so sure I'd pick Crowder to win. Old guys can be pretty mean.

I wouldn't shed a tear if Crowder got his ass kicked (even by union dudes) in a sanctioned match agreed upon by both parties.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Crowder challenged the guy to an MMA fight. I'm not so sure I'd pick Crowder to win. Old guys can be pretty mean.


I'd like to see a 3 way fight so they can both lose. Toss a pro in there with them.

[QuickZ06]

LOL! After the assault occurs on the video, you hear someone yell "He's got a gun!" @ :49. Then, I thin it's the same guy yells: "I'll kill a mother fu***r with a gun! I've killed plenty of mother fu***rs with [read: who had] a gun!" LOLOLOLOL.:rolleyes:

Yeah that was real cute. Nothing like a self proclaimed badass.

[AuH20]

Crowder challenged the guy to an MMA fight. I'm not so sure I'd pick Crowder to win. Old guys can be pretty mean.

Crowder is like twice his size. He should fight that bear looking union worker as opposed to the one that attacked him.

[Brian4Liberty]

Unions naturally disappear in a healthy economy where there is competition for workers. In a recession/depression, businesses will fail if labor costs are artificially high. The biggest employer of Union employees is the government, and they will attempt to increase revenue (increase taxes) to offset the artificially high wages/benefits. When the government goes bankrupt, then we all suffer. And that is exactly where the Unions and politicians will take us.

[EBounding]

Why do people have such a low opinion of unions?



Clint Tarver’s hot dog cart, which he has operated since 1996, is another casualty of the union protest against the right-to-work law. Union members destroyed the cart and called Tarver an “Uncle Tom,” among other racist epithets, for serving right-to-work proponents.

After destroying the Americans for Prosperity tent, where Tarver was catering hotdogs, the mob turned there attention to the hot dog cart.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2515746#.UMjUWqzahGO

Oh, right. :mad:

[Lucille]

Why do people have such a low opinion of unions?




http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2515746#.UMjUWqzahGO

Oh, right. :mad:

Awful.


“Early today, Clint Tarver, known as “The Hot Dog Guy” here in Lansing had his business attacked by out of line and out of control protesters near the Capitol,” a blog post associated with a fundraiser to restore the hot dog cart explains. “‘It was when he returned to gather his equipment that the taunts and racial slurs began.”

When attacking the cart, the people were “yelling N*gger & Uncle Tom,” according to Michigan Republican State Committee member Nick Hawatmeh. Hawatmeh took a photo of the attack that you can see here.

According to the fundraising blog post, Tarver says (through his wife) that “the working people did not respect the working man. He was not there to be political; he was just there to serve.”

They've raised 12K for him already.

[FSP-Rebel]

Yup, the outright failure of Prop #2 brought this forth. The Unions inadevertently laid the seeds for their own destruction. Serves them right.
http://i47.tinypic.com/35d87fa.jpg
h/t Gov Snyder

[GunnyFreedom]

Happened to one of our GA for Ron Paul state coordinators, Bill Greene a while back as well. (watch for a guy in a green sweater around 2:50).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUKJllTweE

Bill Greene is now a NC'er :D

[Confederate]

Just watched Steven Crowder on Hannity and I gotta say, I respect him for what he said. He gave the guy who punched him two options:

1) Hide like a coward and he will be identified, charged with battery and also sued...most likely go to jail
2) Come forward and fight Crowder in a legal MMA match, with the winner getting to choose a charity for the $6000 raised so far to prosecute the guy

[BlackTerrel]

Its Steven Choder. The guy who wants to prohibit marijuana.

Never heard of this guy before.

Doesn't really matter what his political views are or what he said or if or how big of an asshole he is.

When mobs start punching people for reporting on an issue or voicing an opinion it never ends well.

[nobody's_hero]

Bill Greene is now a NC'er :D

Yes he is. Got tired of the idiot establishment parrots in the GOP in this state, I believe.

[GunnyFreedom]

Yes he is. Got tired of the idiot establishment parrots in the GOP in this state, I believe.

LOL he's not going to like them much better in this state, but at least we have them between a rock and a hard place right now.

[BAllen]

Union thugs destroy man's hot dog vendor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84-0R0Ux4Vc