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Anti Federalist
12-07-2012, 01:26 PM
In Which Harold and Kumar Go Into Hiding

Posted: 12/06/2012 11:37 pm

By: Radley Balko

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/radley-balko/in-which-harold-kumar-go-_b_2255029.html?utm_hp_ref=the-agitator

Well, dammit.

I was so very excited about all that sensible drug policy we were going to get out of President Obama in his second term. I mean sure, Obama had spent a good deal of his first term waging more raids on medical marijuana clinics in four years than Bush had waged in eight. And his administration defended DEA agents who point guns at the heads of children during drug raids. And his appointees continued to defend the carnage in Mexico as merely the consequence of good, sensible drug policy.

Sure. There was all of that. But there were also all of these progressive pundits who kept telling drug war reformers that they should go ahead and vote for Obama anyway . . . because they just knew, or at least they were pretty sure, or at least they had heard rumors, that maybe, possibly, Obama would turn the corner and show some leadership.

Remember Marc Ambinder? Under the headline "In His Second Term, Obama Will Pivot to the Drug War," Ambinder wrote . . .


According to ongoing discussions with Obama aides and associates, if the president wins a second term, he plans to tackle another American war that has so far been successful only in perpetuating more misery: the four decades of The Drug War . . . the best thing a president can do may be what Obama winds up doing if he gets re-elected: using the bully pulpit to draw attention to the issue.

Remember Lawrence O'Donnell?


Although, president Obama thinks it's entirely legitimate to have a conversation about whether our drug laws are doing more harm than good, he has absolutely no intention of having that discussion in the United States until after he is reelected to a second term. With exactly 204 days remaining until the election, that makes possibly ending the war on drugs the 204th reason to vote for President Obama on November 6th.
Remember Ana Marie Cox?

Obama appears to be part of the growing number of politicians who are willing to recognize that not only is the drug war a failure, but that the only solution to the crime and misery it exacerbates is community engagement, treatment for addicts, and appropriate consequences for abuse by casual users.

Remember this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h7O_ADbgQ8k

Yeah, so never mind to all of that. Here's Charlie Savage at the New York Times:


Senior White House and Justice Department officials are considering plans for legal action against Colorado and Washington that could undermine voter-approved initiatives to legalize the recreational use of marijuana in those states, according to several people familiar with the deliberations.

Even as marijuana legalization supporters are celebrating their victories in the two states, the Obama administration has been holding high-level meetings since the election to debate the response of federal law enforcement agencies to the decriminalization efforts.

Marijuana use in both states continues to be illegal under the federal Controlled Substances Act. One option is to sue the states on the grounds that any effort to regulate marijuana is pre-empted by federal law. Should the Justice Department prevail, it would raise the possibility of striking down the entire initiatives on the theory that voters would not have approved legalizing the drug without tight regulations and licensing similar to controls on hard
alcohol

More Coloradans voted for pot than for Obama.

No matter. We can't have something as silly as "the will of the people" undermining the might and authority of the federal government. Court action to undermine the initiatives is only one option the administration is considering. Here's the other one:


One option is for federal prosecutors to bring some cases against low-level marijuana users of the sort they until now have rarely bothered with, waiting for a defendant to make a motion to dismiss the case because the drug is now legal in that state. The department could then obtain a court ruling that federal law trumps the state one.

Notice what words and phrases do not appear in the New York Times article: pivot, possibly ending the war on drugs, whether our drug laws are doing more harm than good, the drug war a failure, crime and misery [the drug war] creates.

You'd think that if Obama were going to "pivot," simply leaving alone two states that overwhelmingly legalized pot and gave him their electoral votes would be the best place to start.

As for "bring some cases against low-level marijuana users....," I think that means you, Harold and Kumar. Hope you guys aren't dog people.

Lucille
12-07-2012, 01:52 PM
Interesting how there are only 2 pages of comments. I guess it's too much work for the Obama cult to rationalize away their cognitive dissonance on this one.

Cody1
12-07-2012, 06:29 PM
Interesting how there are only 2 pages of comments. I guess it's too much work for the Obama cult to rationalize away their cognitive dissonance on this one.

HA! That was my first thought as well, even the comments that are posted are chock full of extreme rationalizations depicting an ongoing incrementalization approach by the feds to make it legal.

Anti Federalist
12-07-2012, 06:33 PM
Interesting how there are only 2 pages of comments. I guess it's too much work for the Obama cult to rationalize away their cognitive dissonance on this one.

Meh, Balko is cutting his own throat moving his site to PuffHo (thanks for that quip).

They'll kill by ignoring it.

paulbot24
12-07-2012, 06:33 PM
Right now I swear I can hear the Judge saying something that sounds like............"Nullify!"

coastie
12-07-2012, 06:37 PM
Meh, Balko is cutting his own throat moving his site to PuffHo (thanks for that quip).

They'll kill by ignoring it.

On that note, it was quite sometime after the move that he posted, well, anything there(or, they kept him in the back room). I stopped even trying to look over there for any of his stuff quite a while back, and just read his blog.

AGRP
12-07-2012, 07:30 PM
Those huffpo comments are actually mostly sensible. My faith is renewed.

EBounding
12-07-2012, 07:35 PM
Interesting how there are only 2 pages of comments. I guess it's too much work for the Obama cult to rationalize away their cognitive dissonance on this one.

I think the only thing democrats/progressives care about is Gay/Government marriage.

fr33
12-07-2012, 07:41 PM
Those huffpo comments are actually mostly sensible. My faith is renewed.There are so few of them compared to the recent Rand articles. For the most part huffpo commentators are saying nothing bad about Obama. The few comments in that article are the few reasonable people you can wade through and find amongst thousands of idiots on any topic over there.

AGRP
12-07-2012, 07:45 PM
There are so few of them compared to the recent Rand articles. For the most part huffpo commentators are saying nothing bad about Obama. The few comments in that article are the few reasonable people you can wade through and find amongst thousands of idiots on any topic over there.

Well, i think theyre right in that he hasnt been in office for too long to make a judgment yet. I dont think WA or CO has experienced any raids yet.

Anti Federalist
12-07-2012, 08:20 PM
Well, i think theyre right in that he hasnt been in office for too long to make a judgment yet. I dont think WA or CO has experienced any raids yet.

That is truly "whistling past the graveyard".

The Eye of Sauron is fully alerted to WA and CO now.

The raids are on the way.

twomp
12-07-2012, 08:32 PM
Well, i think theyre right in that he hasnt been in office for too long to make a judgment yet. I dont think WA or CO has experienced any raids yet.

It's only been 2 days. They can't let Washington and Colorado get away with this. They need to do something to show that they are in control "establishment style". Because if they let the states get away with defying the federal government on cannabis, the states will try to defy the federal government on Obamacare too! And we can't have that now can we?

fr33
12-07-2012, 09:01 PM
Well, i think theyre right in that he hasnt been in office for too long to make a judgment yet. I dont think WA or CO has experienced any raids yet.His raids already on pot are more in number than Bush's. If you read the articles in this topic you know that his administration's mindset is already combative over these new states. Obama is terrible on pot. The only reason Romney was worse is because it's a religious belief for him.

Lucille
12-12-2012, 05:37 PM
Meh, Balko is cutting his own throat moving his site to PuffHo (thanks for that quip).

They'll kill by ignoring it.

Heh. I wish I had made it up! It fits.

Pearls before swine! His morning links (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/radley-balko/morning-links-dc-murder-r_b_2285067.html?utm_hp_ref=the-agitator) got a total of 4 comments today.

ETA: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/radley-balko/

You're absolutely right. He is being ignored. He must leave that awful place.

torchbearer
12-12-2012, 05:51 PM
Interesting how there are only 2 pages of comments. I guess it's too much work for the Obama cult to rationalize away their cognitive dissonance on this one. this entire country will have to deal with cognitive dissonance when the curtain finally falls.

torchbearer
12-12-2012, 05:53 PM
His raids already on pot are more in number than Bush's. If you read the articles in this topic you know that his administration's mindset is already combative over these new states. Obama is terrible on pot. The only reason Romney was worse is because it's a religious belief for him. on Romney- it wasn't that it was his religious belief, it was because it was his religious belief that he wanted to force on people using government.