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itshappening
12-06-2012, 09:13 PM
In a three-hour interview with The Wall Street Journal, casino mogul Sheldon Adelson excoriated President Barack Obama, Democrats and unions, as one would expect of a top donor to conservatives and Republican causes in the 2012 election.

But the billionaire, sitting with his wife Miriam, an Israel-born physician, shared political beliefs that may leave some surprised.

“Look, I’m basically a social liberal, I know nobody will believe that,” Mr. Adelson said, as Dr. Adelson nodded.

“Number one, I’m supporting stem-cell research,” he said, pointing to a chart of the new Adelson medical research foundation that is funding some stem-cell based science.

“I’m pro choice,” he said. Republicans are pro-life, but he and his wife are not pro-life in politics, he said.

“You can take your own religious beliefs …and live your life with your own beliefs. But to make it a portion of the government’s policies?” He shook his head.

“Abortion shouldn’t be brought up as a political issue,” he said.

Mr. Adelson continued on his list of liberal leanings.

On immigration: “I’m pro-Dream Act, I’m pro the Dream Act. My parents were immigrants to this country,” he said. “What are we going to do ? Listen, I’m sure a lot of my parents generation …..snuck onto the ship and they came into the country.

“So – people will do anything to leave massacres and to leave the economic conditions – they can’t put food on their own table.

“There has been in our history a lot of illegal immigration. Do I approve of it? No, but it’s here.

“It would be inhumane to send those people back , to send 12 million people out of this country to disrupt a whole potpourri of family issues” over what happens to the children.

“I mean it’s all ridiculous. So we’ve got to find a way, find a route for those people to get legal citizenship,” he said.

Finally, he said casually: “And by the way I’m in favor of a socialized-like health care.”

Asked he was sure he was in the right party, he and his wife laughed.

“Look, nobody agrees with 100 % of their planks” in the GOP platform, he and Dr. Adelson both said.

His interest in health care comes from his wife, and Israel’s national medical-care system, he said, as well as his Judaism.

“I think that to take care of everybody is part of Tikkun Olam” the Hebrew motto meaning “repair the world,” he said. “And to deprive somebody for money of heath care or [medical] testing is bordering on criminal.”

But he said, “I’m against this Obamacare because it’s making the [medical] decisions based upon money.” If one goes to Israel, he said, one chooses among four or five HMO’s. “You go in there you get all your health care from cradle to grave.”

“When I learned about that [Israeli] system, to my own surprise I said, ‘Oh, I’m in favor of socialized medicine’– which is such a bad word here,” he said.

Why does he favor it? “Because everybody pays” into the system, and the doctors don’t deny the elderly health treatments like hip surgery just because they are old, he said.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/12/05/sheldon-adelson-im-basically-a-social-liberal/

itshappening
12-06-2012, 09:21 PM
This guy is single handedly funding the GOP.

His views are quite worrying but probably what most of the GOP elites think in private while playing the base.

twomp
12-06-2012, 09:27 PM
So this guy is:

a) For socialized medicine (Romneycare)
b) pro-choice (Romney)
c) pro-israel
d) pro-war

Doesn't that just make him a neo-con?

Adrock
12-06-2012, 09:29 PM
So this guy is:

a) For socialized medicine (Romneycare)
b) pro-choice (Romney)
c) pro-israel
d) pro-war

Doesn't that just make him a neo-con?

It makes him a liberal. Never mind, same thing.

itshappening
12-06-2012, 09:30 PM
He's very, very bad.

I wonder if Rand Paul can trick him into supporting him? He's visiting Israel and all that.

Sadly billionaires like Adelson is why Israeli foreign aid is so well funded, getting unlimited checks from him to further your political ambitions and all he wants in return is a pro-Israel policy.

Kotin
12-06-2012, 09:32 PM
and yet he says nothing of civil liberties and the drug war.. what a toad dip shit.

itshappening
12-06-2012, 09:32 PM
Jindal, Bob McDonnell and five other GOP governors have met him recently.

They're all sucking his c*ck for $$$.

Could be a very crowded GOP field in 2016 if Adelson decides to fund multiple candidates. sigh.

Vanilluxe
12-06-2012, 09:34 PM
Libertarian = Fiscally Conservative + Socially liberal + Anti-War

itshappening
12-06-2012, 09:36 PM
He's pledging to spend $200-300 million on political funding next time round.

Could be more.

Him and Bloomberg are going to be a nightmare in the next few years throwing their money around.

HOLLYWOOD
12-06-2012, 09:36 PM
Jindal, Bob McDonnell and five other GOP governors have met him recently.

They're all sucking his c*ck for $$$.

Could be a very crowded GOP field in 2016 if Adelson decides to fund multiple candidates. sigh.AMEN... Isn't he up on international bribery charges? Oh, I forgot, he's a corporate billionaire monster, he's above the law. Adelson and Trump are the anchors in the Grand Ole Politburo

itshappening
12-06-2012, 09:39 PM
AMEN... Isn't he up on international bribery charges? Oh, I forgot, he's a corporate billionaire monster, he's above the law. Adelson and Trump are the anchors in the Grand Ole Politburo

He met Boehner the other day and asked for the law they want to prosecute him under to be changed. Boehner will comply since he's basically funding the GOP and I wouldnt be surprised if Reid (Nevada) is in his pocket so expect that to happen.

erowe1
12-06-2012, 09:42 PM
“You can take your own religious beliefs …and live your life with your own beliefs. But to make it a portion of the government’s policies?” He shook his head.

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His interest in health care comes from his wife, and Israel’s national medical-care system, he said, as well as his Judaism.

“I think that to take care of everybody is part of Tikkun Olam” the Hebrew motto meaning “repair the world,” he said.

Uhhh.

Brian4Liberty
12-06-2012, 09:55 PM
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Brian4Liberty
12-06-2012, 10:05 PM
“Look, I’m basically a social liberal, I know nobody will believe that,” Mr. Adelson said

Shocking! Adelson is a neo-conservative? Imagine that.

HOLLYWOOD
12-06-2012, 10:40 PM
He met Boehner the other day and asked for the law they want to prosecute him under to be changed. Boehner will comply since he's basically funding the GOP and I wouldnt be surprised if Reid (Nevada) is in his pocket so expect that to happen.Oh. there's No Doubt, Harry Reid is in anybody's pockets if you funnel money to his illuinated liberalsville aka Vegas. I haven't watched his NEOCON liberal world tea party network crap, but I'm sure it's to conquer the world for more SANDS Casino-Resorts distributed on stolen property.

enhanced_deficit
10-29-2018, 09:51 PM
To be fair, he holds private meetings with fearless MAGA.


Sheldon Adelson to honor Sean Penn at neocon ball

Philip Weiss on February 26, 2014


Sean Penn’s wikipedia entry begins with his activism. “He is known for his left-wing political and social activism, including humanitarian work.” For instance, he has worked for the Haitian people (http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Shannon+Costello/Artists+Haiti+Dinner+Benefit+Stiller+Foundation/Y-6KqXfzuT4).
From the Times of Israel (http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/why-we-are-honoring-sean-penn-as-a-champion-of-jewish-values/), by rightwing Rabbi Shmuley Boteach:
Sean Penn will be honored by our organization, This World: The Values Network, on 18 May, at Cipriani in New York, for his work in saving the life of Jacob Ostreicher, a Hassidic Jew who was unjustly accused and rotting in a Bolivian jail for three years. Joining him as co-honorees this year, the silver anniversary of my time in the Rabbinate, are Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey and Ambassador Ron Dermer of Israel, both of whom served as my student Presidents at the Oxford L’Chaim Society. John Prendergast, the great anti-genocide campaigner and former under Secretary-of-State for Africa under Bill Clinton, and Bret Stephens, who won last year’s Pulitzer Prize for Distinguished commentary, will also be honorees. The hosts for the dinner are the world’s foremost Jewish philanthropists, Dr. Miriam and Sheldon Adelson, and Birthright Israel co-founders, Judy and Michael Steinhardt


http://mondoweiss.net/2014/02/sheldon-adelson-neocon.html

enhanced_deficit
06-26-2020, 06:12 PM
Flashback:

The Rise of Social Liberalism and G.O.P. Resistance

Charles M. Blow
May 28, 2015
There is a fascinating phenomenon taking shape in America: As the country becomes less religious, it is also becoming more socially liberal.
nytimes.com/2015/05/28/opinion/charles-blow-the-rise-of-social-liberalism-and-gop-resistance.html


Looking back, this seemed absolutley absurd, how can a non-joker political party be fighting the ideology of its top funder?






Libertarian = Fiscally Conservative + Socially liberal + Anti-War

What is "Fiscally liberal + Pro economic warfare/sanctions etc + Socially Liberal + Pro 'bomb Iraq/Syria/Iran' War" ?

DamianTV
06-26-2020, 09:56 PM
No such thing. Might just as well say I only drink completely Dehydrated Water.

Social - Socialism - Communism - ZERO Freedom
Liberal - Original Liberty

The two terms are flat out polar opposites.

In Psychology, this is called DOUBLETHINK. I dont support Murder but I support Abortion. Opposite would be to say I support WAR (Murder also) but OPPOSE Abortion. In both cases, there should be a recognized conflict, but there is not. This causes the person to be easily deceived and manipulated since they are unable to tell the difference between the two conflicting ideas.

enhanced_deficit
07-01-2020, 11:07 AM
No such thing. Might just as well say I only drink completely Dehydrated Water.

Social - Socialism - Communism - ZERO Freedom
Liberal - Original Liberty

The two terms are flat out polar opposites.

In Psychology, this is called DOUBLETHINK. I dont support Murder but I support Abortion. Opposite would be to say I support WAR (Murder also) but OPPOSE Abortion. In both cases, there should be a recognized conflict, but there is not. This causes the person to be easily deceived and manipulated since they are unable to tell the difference between the two conflicting ideas.


By same logic, Liberals / Libertarian and Conservative / Conservatarians should be opposite of each other respectively but usually are not.

Socialism has been rising sharply since election of Dems/pseudo liberals like Obama/Trump and global neoconservatism (oft championed by ideologues from communist camps) rose sharply during Reagan, Bush and W Bush eras. Liberty declined progressively.

"Pro lifers" championing Iraqi freedom war violence were bluntly treated by quack liberals with Obama election therapy, it was bad quackery ofcourse. I digress.

DamianTV
07-01-2020, 12:11 PM
By same logic, Liberals / Libertarian and Conservative / Conservatarians should be opposite of each other respectively but usually are not.

Socialism has been rising sharply since election of Dems/pseudo liberals like Obama/Trump and global neoconservatism (oft championed by ideologues from communist camps) rose sharply during Reagan, Bush and W Bush eras. Liberty declined progressively.

"Pro lifers" championing Iraqi freedom war violence were bluntly treated by quack liberals with Obama election therapy, it was bad quackery ofcourse. I digress.

We have no shortage of Blue Republicans / RINOs. Illusion of choice, as usual. People get tricked into voting for Socialists because they are never offered a meaningful choice.

enhanced_deficit
07-11-2020, 12:11 PM
Granted some folks think 'follow the money' doesn't apply in these times, pretty historic socially liberal cultural shift across the political landscape taking place near the end of historic well-funded MAGA Presidency:

Libertarian Party Becomes Woke Follows Democrats "We Must Support BLM for Justice" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?547784-Libertarian-Party-Becomes-Woke-Follows-Democrats-quot-We-Must-Support-BLM-for-Justice-quot&)

Michigan to REQUIRE 'implicit bias training' for any medical license! (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?547778-Michigan-to-REQUIRE-implicit-bias-training-for-any-medical-license!&)

Seattle is training white employees to overcome their “internalized racial superiority" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?547761-Seattle-is-training-white-employees-to-overcome-their-“internalized-racial-superiority-quot&)




We have no shortage of Blue Republicans / RINOs. Illusion of choice, as usual. People get tricked into voting for Socialists because they are never offered a meaningful choice.

Very valid point.