IL-Cop shoots 7 month old puppy, while writing a parking ticket.

[Anti Federalist]

And then came back, after the Mundane had the temerity to question the attempted puppycide on local radio, to write an "unlicensed dog" ticket.

"Because, FUCK YOU!, that's why..." - Officer Friendly

And now I know that these reports are heavily edited in favor of the cops.

"Officer" my aching ass...

"And that's when that asshole cop shot my dog!"




Chicago Family Says Police Officer Shot Their Puppy

December 4, 2012 6:15 AM

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/12/04/chicago-family-says-police-officer-shot-their-puppy/

CHICAGO (CBS) – Al Phillips wants to know why a Chicago police officer shot his dog while writing a traffic ticket outside his house.

“My neighbor called and told me I was getting a ticket on my van. When I opened the fence, my puppy ran out. That’s when I heard two gunshots and the officer shot my dog,” Phillips said.

The 7-month-old Bull Terrier miniature puppy survived but had a bullet in its leg and fragments in its abdomen.

“Luckily he’ll survive,” Phillips said. “We were going to show him but now we can’t. He’ll never be the same.”

While on the phone with WBBM Newsradio, police returned to the home to issue another ticket for an unleashed dog.

Phillips says several neighbors witnessed the incident and claim the dog did not provoke the officer.

He called the actions reckless.

“It’s totally absolutely irresponsible for the guy to shoot his gun,” Phillips said. “One could’ve ricocheted and hit someone. There were a lot of people walking around.”

Phillips filed a complaint with the department and has contacted an attorney.

Chicago Police were unavailable for comment but Phillips says when he filed the complaint, they told him the shooting was justified.

[jmdrake]

Okay. This is starting to get weird. Is it only dogs or are cats catching it too?

[ghengis86]

Okay. This is starting to get weird. Is it only dogs or are cats catching it too?

If more cats were kept outside (or hamsters or goldfish) we would see them being slaughtered as well

[Anti Federalist]

Okay. This is starting to get weird. Is it only dogs or are cats catching it too?

Not as far as I can tell.

Dogs, mostly.

Just working their way up to us, nothing weird about it, when you look at it that way.

[ghengis86]

Not as far as I can tell.

Dogs, mostly.

Just working their way up to us, nothing weird about it, when you look at it that way.

I think the majority of people are fine with cops murdering innocents/mundanes.

[tod evans]

Outlaw cities......

[Anti Federalist]

I think the majority of people are fine with cops murdering innocents/mundanes.

Fine with it?

Hell, they'll tune in to watch.

Kill their dog though, and maybe you might get at least a slight negative reaction.

[acptulsa]

Outlaw cities......

It certainly does seem logical to turn cities into 'gated communities'--and make sure the fences are designed not to keep the animals out but to keep the animals in. But not all cities require this. Only certain cities seem to breed this brand of insanity. Cops might get carried away all over the place, for example, but sane people have enough sense to disapprove.

I think the answer is clear. We should cordon off all cities with a population density of more than ten thousand per square mile. It's amazing how far that would go toward curbing the insanity.

[Tudo]

Wouldn't it be something if one of these young folks who knows computers to publish ( anonymously of course:) ) the names and faces, places of employment and EVERYTHING about this officer? Betcha that would slow these tough guys down for awhile.

[acptulsa]

Wouldn't it be something if one of these young folks who knows computers to publish ( anonymously of course:) ) the names and faces, places of employment and EVERYTHING about this officer? Betcha that would slow these tough guys down for awhile.

Especially if they were captioned right.

SCARED $#!+LESS OF SEVEN-MONTH-OLD PUPPY!

[tod evans]

You're a tad more lenient on population density than I would be....300 folks habitating a square mile is cause for alarm in my book, that's well under 1/2 acre per person...


It certainly does seem logical to turn cities into 'gated communities'--and make sure the fences are designed not to keep the animals out but to keep the animals in. But not all cities require this. Only certain cities seem to breed this brand of insanity. Cops might get carried away all over the place, for example, but sane people have enough sense to disapprove.

I think the answer is clear. We should cordon off all cities with a population density of more than ten thousand per square mile. It's amazing how far that would go toward curbing the insanity.

[phill4paul]

For reference, the full-grown Miniature Pit Bull Terrier is on the right....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Bull_terier_i_bull_terier_miniatura_d46.jpg/728px-Bull_terier_i_bull_terier_miniatura_d46.jpg

[ghengis86]

I get why they kill dogs so frequently (they can), but I don't get why a swift kick or club to the head of an attacking dog is outside their thought process (I do but I don't, ya know?).

Have they been emasculated and militarized simultaneously? Was that the end goal? Lots of insecure boot lickers given the authority to kill with impunity?

[presence]

Wouldn't it be something if one of these young folks who knows computers to publish ( anonymously of course:) ) the names and faces, places of employment and EVERYTHING about this officer? Betcha that would slow these tough guys down for awhile.

Its called Dox'ing... I'd be all over it but Josh (our RPF admin) has advised me against such. As I like my RPF platform... I'll stick w/ the program. A mod deleted my last dox on that cop that shot the naked college kid in Alabama. That said, with a little creativity and simple google search you can find out just about anything about a cop; facebook, myspace, home phone, cell, work phone, salary, family, friends, home address, home value, property taxes,personal email, work email, family email, birth town, working shift, mother's maiden is even pretty easy, not to mention photos; favorite song and sports team... none of that is ever secure, just requires diligent public records search. No "hacking" or "dark web" passwords needed; its just plastered out there on various web pages and pdf's. No crime in it; google, et al. brings it together like no library ever could... you can even hyperlink/cite every dox element. Most people up in the system enough to be a cop have a digital paper trail a mile long flagging around out in the open on the web.

I consider Doxing to fall within the right of the citizen to lawfully redress grievances (let alone freedom of speech) as protected by the 1st amendment.


Once upon a time if you didn’t like the king or queen’s decisions you couldn’t say a word... and if you did... you would land yourself in some hot water...

No really, they could boil you.
http://www.illinoisfirstamendmentcenter.com/petition.php




Which Canada is considering...
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/chilling_free_speech_in_the_great_white_north.html

Go to jail for posting a hyperlink? It could happen if a bill amending the hate speech section of Canada's criminal code becomes law.




Anonymous is taking requests though. Tweet it to #PM2012; maybe they'll start a pastebin.



Ideal situation might be three 2nd Amendment citizens present to make a citizen's arrest (http://www.wisegeek.com/how-do-i-perform-a-citizens-arrest.htm) on the officer:

http://bigamericannight.com/notebook/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Handgun-1-640x426.jpg
"Drop your weapon and back away from the dog..."


officers shoot about 250,000 dogs a year
http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/175775621.html


Yet puppycide never makes to the national news.

#puppycide

[youngbuck]

I hope the pig is sued personally.

[sailingaway]

note it isn't just a seven month old puppy, it is a seven month old 'miniature breed' puppy.

brave man.

[acptulsa]

note it isn't just a seven month old puppy, it is a seven month old 'miniature breed' puppy.

brave man.

He was in mortal fear for his toes.

[coastie]

Fine with it?

Hell, they'll tune in to watch.

Kill their dog though, and maybe you might get at least a slight negative reaction.

Yep. Go to youtube and look at the comments below any police brutality/rights violations videos...nothing but excuses for the cops and their actions. Excuses about how "tough" and "dangerous"their jobs are, "well, if the person wasn't being a dick(dick=exercising their rights)...", "I hope when you need a cop, there isn't one to "save" you(LMAO), "if you're doing nothing wrong...", "they must've been doing something wrong for the cops to be there", ad nauseum.

The TV show COPS has done more to undermine our rights than any single entity. The show has (and the numerous spin offs) has completely altered public perception of what their rights are. Many of the comments align directly with what that TV show portrays, as it ALWAYS shows the cops in the wrong, violating people's rights, people not knowing their rights, etc. The masses eat it up, and you're right-they LOVE watching cops beating or shooting someone's ass, searching their cars, high speed chases(bonus points for wrecks with fatalities),etc.

[presence]

The TV show COPS has done more to undermine our rights than any single entity. The show has (and the numerous spin offs) has completely altered public perception of what their rights are. Many of the comments align directly with what that TV show portrays, as it ALWAYS shows the cops in the wrong, violating people's rights, people not knowing their rights, etc. The masses eat it up, and you're right-they LOVE watching cops beating or shooting someone's ass, searching their cars, high speed chases(bonus points for wrecks with fatalities),etc.

I'm annoying to have present when the statists are gathered around that one.

[SeanTX]

Wouldn't it be something if one of these young folks who knows computers to publish ( anonymously of course:) ) the names and faces, places of employment and EVERYTHING about this officer? Betcha that would slow these tough guys down for awhile.

Some hacker group already did this in a case that happened in New York over the summer -- no consequences for the officers so far as I know, though it may have made them sweat a little.

Now if people were to start taking certain actions using such information that might make a difference (sometimes vigilante justice is the only justice you can get dealing with the "Just Us" system).

[coastie]

I'm annoying to have present when the statists are gathered around that one.

I am as well. I'll admit, when I was younger, I watched that show, and those like it, all the time. I just stopped watching The First 48 a couple of years ago after the little girl was killed in Detroit while they were filming an episode.

I also find myself chastising people for even supporting those shows now. I don't care anymore, it's gone too far. There is no more biting my lip, hoping the next election gets better, etc. I can get quite impassioned while on the soap box, but it seems to work a lot of times(although not nearly enough). The fact I used to be LE gives me a little more credibility on the subject, I suppose, but even then the statist haters still act like I'm being a bad guy for telling them to not talk to the police. :eek::confused:

[PaulConventionWV]

If more cats were kept outside (or hamsters or goldfish) we would see them being slaughtered as well

Nah. Cats are too smart. They also don't cause nearly as much trouble and they're much less rough-and-tumble. That's WHY they're kept inside. I have a pair of outside cats, but if I was going to have an animal inside (which I wouldn't), I would want a cat.

[angelatc]

If more cats were kept outside (or hamsters or goldfish) we would see them being slaughtered as well

Cats are far more suspicious of strangers than dogs.

[Dr.3D]

Cats are far more suspicious of strangers than dogs.
Both of my Dobermans will stand next to me with the hair on their backs standing up when someone they don't know approaches the house. I live in the country and the only leash I use is an electronic training collar. A few times, I have had to push the buttons to keep my dogs from going out in the road, after someone on a bicycle or horse goes by. I just hope no cop decides to approach and thinks he has permission or the authority to shoot my dogs. Things could get nasty pretty fast.

[brushfire]

Those dogs are very expensive. Was the dog still on private property when shot?

The story makes me think that the dog was not within view of the owner.

So what's the cop's claim? If these animals are so dangerous, why aren't the USPO able to carry guns? What happened to mace? Who did the cop put at risk by drawing and firing his sidearm?

[jmdrake]

Michael Vick chose the wrong career.

[aGameOfThrones]

You shouldn't be a cop if you're scared of a puppy.

[EBounding]

Yep. Go to youtube and look at the comments below any police brutality/rights violations videos...nothing but excuses for the cops and their actions. Excuses about how "tough" and "dangerous"their jobs are, "well, if the person wasn't being a dick(dick=exercising their rights)...", "I hope when you need a cop, there isn't one to "save" you(LMAO), "if you're doing nothing wrong...", "they must've been doing something wrong for the cops to be there", ad nauseum.

My favorite pastime is calling them slaves and congratulating them on their obedience to their Leaders. It drives them crazy because they actually think they are free.

[thoughtomator]

Anyone who still lives in Chicago has something wrong with them.

[jclay2]

Anyone who still lives in Chicago has something wrong with them.

Hey, I don't do it by choice.



"What happened to mace?"

Good lord, why the need for mace. It is a miniature pup for goodness sakes! Any normal human being would have got on his knees and welcomed the little guy. Instead, this psychopath thought it was a ripe old time for an execution. Plus, the cop is in a HIGH DENSITY area. Pure insanity.

[Occam's Banana]

You shouldn't be a cop if you're scared of a puppy.

You shouldn't be a cop. Period.

[phill4paul]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TYS-FVbGZnI/TtZNR-d8QCI/AAAAAAAACwM/A0rqbVS0GLM/s1600/Target_Dog_1.jpg

[heavenlyboy34]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TYS-FVbGZnI/TtZNR-d8QCI/AAAAAAAACwM/A0rqbVS0GLM/s1600/Target_Dog_1.jpg
Vicious. Shoot it.

[ghengis86]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TYS-FVbGZnI/TtZNR-d8QCI/AAAAAAAACwM/A0rqbVS0GLM/s1600/Target_Dog_1.jpg

Already has a target; cops probably can't hit it anyways as evidenced by the 'marksman' in the OP shooting a couple rounds and only wounding the animal. Isn't that cruelty to animals?

[TywinLannister]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ngS_uX5LRI

[Feelgood]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMqTat4dUoY

[brushfire]

"What happened to mace?"

Good lord, why the need for mace. It is a miniature pup for goodness sakes! Any normal human being would have got on his knees and welcomed the little guy. Instead, this psychopath thought it was a ripe old time for an execution. Plus, the cop is in a HIGH DENSITY area. Pure insanity.

I'd mace a toy poodle if it was biting me. I might even punt it. The point is, why did he choose to shoot the dog?

+rep for posting the tube

[AFPVet]

I'd mace a toy poodle if it was biting me. I might even punt it. The point is, why did he choose to shoot the dog?

+rep for posting the tube

This is what I've been asking for awhile. I guess they've changed a lot in six years. It used to be that your firearm was your last resort... now it seems to be the first. Why even carry pepper or a expandable baton if your not going to use it when it's appropriate?

[AGRP]

Officer safety.

[WilliamShrugged]

With all these stories of cops killing dogs and with the some-what talks of gun laws. I keep thinking of the vampire movie "30 days of night" where the vampires had a guy kill all the dogs of the town to make sure they would have no difficulty when they came in.

[kcchiefs6465]

I'd mace a toy poodle if it was biting me. I might even punt it. The point is, why did he choose to shoot the dog?

+rep for posting the tube
I'd punt any dog if it seriously came at me trying to bite me. Most dogs, especially small, are all bark. Don't run, stand your ground, and look them in the eyes. Dogs sense fear. He probably 'smelled' the fear on this pig's 'brow and ran towards him yipping. Only a piss pants asshole shoots a miniature dog- you can quote me on the that.

[alucard13mmfmj]

the dog is lucky to be alive.. a 45 or 9mm on a puppy that probably weighs like 7-8 pounds?

[heavenlyboy34]

This is what I've been asking for awhile. I guess they've changed a lot in six years. It used to be that your firearm was your last resort... now it seems to be the first. Why even carry pepper or a expandable baton if your not going to use it when it's appropriate?
Circular Force Continuum.

[aGameOfThrones]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ngS_uX5LRI

Ha! A petition drive to have the officerpsychopath removed.

[aGameOfThrones]

the dog is lucky to be alive.. a 45 or 9mm on a puppy that probably weighs like 7-8 pounds?

Video says 29 pounds

[Odin]

Funny the rest of us that walk around and occasionally see a dog off-leash don't feel the need to kill it. Only these police officers.

Kill a few of the police officers or put them in prison for a very long time and they might stop killing animals which are members of our family.

[Anti Federalist]

Circular Force Continuum.

There's your answer.

And it's no more complicated than that.

"I felt my safety was in jeopardy."

Everything is now legal.

[pcosmar]

Okay. This is starting to get weird. Is it only dogs or are cats catching it too?
from the Wiki.
http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Dog


Dogs are well known for their ability to detect Infiltrator units. They frequently start barking when an Infiltrator gets close to them.

[Anti Federalist]

Controversy roils over dog shot by police in Chicago

http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/realestate/sns-201212112000--tms--petwrldctnya-a20121212-20121212,0,1283279.column

4:30 a.m. CST, December 12, 2012

"He shot the puppy!" several neighbors screamed simultaneously, shocked by the actions of one Chicago police officer.

On Saturday afternoon, Dec. 1, Al Phillips, who lives on Chicago's north side, received a call from a neighbor that a police officer was writing a parking ticket in front of Phillips' house. It was a beautiful day, and Phillips' three dogs had been playing in the yard, but, "as I walked outside the gate to talk to the police officer, I left the door ajar and the puppy walked out," Al told me.

That puppy is Colonel, a 7-month-old Miniature Bull Terrier affectionately dubbed "Col. Phillips" by neighborhood residents.

Al, 75, said he didn't hear the police officer issue a warning, or say anything. In TV reports, witnesses claimed the officer said, "The dog is loose." Within seconds, and without any additional warning, the officer shot at the puppy, twice.

"I heard the shots, but couldn't believe it," Al told me.

There were several witnesses, and their accounts to local TV have been consistent. Not only was the puppy not approaching the police officer, but Colonel was at least a car length away, sniffing at a tree.

It was only a matter of minutes before additional police arrived on the scene, and neighbors streamed from their homes and the high-rise across the street. About this time, Al said, his daughter, Morgan, happened to pull up.

"Some people were screaming," Morgan recalled.

Meanwhile, Colonel had run down the street. A neighbor had grabbed the dog, who was bleeding profusely. Police on the scene were saying nothing, some looking down to the ground, but none offered to help, Morgan told me. She rushed Colonel to the Chicago Veterinary Emergency and Specialty Center.

(It's possible neither shot was a direct hit. According to news reports, the bullets ricocheted off concrete or a fence. Had they had been direct hits, Colonel might have died, Al and Morgan Phillips said. After surgery, the pup is recovering well.)

As for the officer who shot at Colonel, Al, his wife, Barbara, and Morgan said (and witnesses confirmed in TV reports) that he calmly finished writing the ticket, as if nothing out of the ordinary had occurred.

Phillips, who owns World Gym locations in the Chicago area, told me, "Clearly, the parking ticket was a higher priority for this officer. What kind of person does this?"

"I once lived with a Chicago cop, and they are taught that even when they're under fire, not to shoot in busy neighborhoods, unless they absolutely must," Morgan told me. "It was a nice day, and people were everywhere. Right where Colonel was when he was shot, a woman was walking down the street with her dog pushing a baby stroller. Her baby might have been hit. It's only a stroke of luck that a bullet didn't hit anyone."

This story made the news, which apparently the police weren't too thrilled about. Two days after the shooting, a sergeant and a lieutenant from the Chicago Police Department showed up at the Phillips' home.

"I thought they were sending honchos over to apologize," Barbara told me.

Instead, Al and Barbara said, the police questioned why the family had gone to the media, and insisted that the officer who shot at their dog is a "good man." When Al and Barbara were clearly unwilling to promise "no more media," they were issued a ticket for Colonel being off-leash two days prior.

At first, the City denied this visit ever took place, however, a TV news crew happened to be there and caught it on tape. Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy weighed in with these comments on Fox TV News:

"Unfortunately, officers get bit by dogs frequently. We don't have to wait to get bit by a dog, we don't have to wait to get shot at before we take steps to protect ourselves. We have to shoot dogs frequently in the city. There's a story about last night where we made a robbery arrest and somebody released a pit bull and attacked the officer and had to be shot."

"I don't even know how to respond to that statement," Al Phillips told me. "It's one thing when police are threatened by a dog; it's another to shoot an innocent puppy."

The Phillips' have sued the city and police officer for "in excess of $50,000."

"What we really want," Al said, "Is for the officer (who shot at Colonel) to be taken off the streets and to get help. And for a change of attitude, perhaps through mandated training, so this never happens again."

(Yah, lots of luck there, dude. That cop could have shot you in the face for no reason and he'd still have his job. - AF)

According to Ledy VanKavage, senior legislative analyst at Best Friends Animal Society, "Incidents like this happen all the time across the country, where innocent dogs are shot by police. This ranges from officers approaching the wrong house with a warrant and shooting a dog, to shooting a lost 12-year-old Golden Retriever who wasn't threatening anyone. It's amazing. All states should mandate training and these actions should not be deemed acceptable."

As for the Chicago police side of the story, a spokesperson told me they had nothing more to add.

After all, what more can they say? Barbara Phillips noted, "How about, 'I'm sorry that I shot your puppy'?"

Of course, Colonel should never have been shot at in the first place, assuming all witness accounts of the incident are accurate. Aside from training to help police better recognize canine body language, and so officers don't instantly resort to lethal force, perhaps understanding why dogs are so often a target would also be helpful. Dogs may legally be property, but emotionally they are beloved members of our families.

(Steve Dale welcomes questions/comments from readers. Although he can't answer all of them individually, he'll answer those of general interest in his column Send e-mail to PETWORLD(at)STEVE DALE.TV. Include your name, city and state. Steve's website is http://www.stevedalepetworld.com; he also hosts the nationally syndicated "Steve Dale's Pet World" and "The Pet Minute." He's also a contributing editor to USA Weekend.)

[TywinLannister]

CHICAGO (STMW) – A lawsuit a North Side couple filed against the city and a police officer who allegedly shot their puppy earlier this month is moving to federal court.

Plaintiffs Al Phillips and Barbara Phillips filed the original suit Dec. 4 in Cook County Circuit Court.

In it, they claim their miniature bull terrier puppy followed Al Phillips outside on Dec. 1, after he saw a police officer writing him a parking ticket about 3 p.m. outside his home in the 800 block of West Buena Avenue, according to the suit.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/12/12/lawsuit-over-puppy-shot-by-cop-moving-to-federal-court/

[NCGOPer_for_Paul]

Did the cops finally shoot the wrong dog?

This one seems to be getting a little more play in the media.

I bet this gets settled before it ever sees a courtroom, Chicago pays the victims a high five figure settlement, and the cop who did the shooting gets six months off.

[tod evans]

You'd think cops would have more sense than to go shooting dogs in neighborhoods of the ruling class..

Oh-sorry........cops/sense in the same sentence...:o