Marijuana Makes You Smart, Happy and Cancer Free

[dannno]

This is in response to this thread:

Marijuana causes brain damage, linked to schizophrenia
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?396919-Marijuana-causes-brain-damage-linked-to-schizophrenia



Other recreational drugs, such as alcohol, nicotine and cocaine, have been shown to suppress this new growth. Xia Zhang of the University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon, Canada, and colleagues decided to see what effects a synthetic cannabinoid called HU210 had on rats' brains.

They found that giving rats high doses of HU210 twice a day for 10 days increased the rate of nerve cell formation, or neurogenesis, in the hippocampus by about 40%.



When the rats who had received the cannabinoid were placed under stress, they showed fewer signs of anxiety and depression than rats who had not had the treatment. When neurogenesis was halted in these rats using X-rays, this effect disappeared, indicating that the new cell growth might be responsible for the behavioural changes.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8155-marijuana-might-cause-new-cell-growth-in-the-brain.html



Turns out that the recreationally popular cannabis plant contains compounds that could stop and even reverse the growth of various aggressive forms of cancer.

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/is-marijuana-a-potential-cure-for-cancer/762

Also see: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?396954-Marijuana-Makes-You-Smart-Happy-and-Cancer-Free&p=4752926&viewfull=1#post4752926


Cannabis does not cause schizophrenia, it actually helps treat and provide relief for the condition

http://blog.norml.org/2010/02/16/supposed-marijuana-and-schizophrenia-link-%E2%80%9Coverstated%E2%80%9D/



Anybody who buys the anti-cannabis propaganda may as well believe our government when they say that Iran is close to developing nuclear weapons.

[Zippyjuan]

nvm

[Acala]

Bob Marley died of cancer. Timothy Leary died of cancer.

[CaptUSA]

Bob Marley died of cancer. Timothy Leary died of cancer.And yet, Willie Nelson and Tommy Chong are still going... Hmmm...

[Czolgosz]

Does ingestion manner have a bearing? I wouldn't mind trying some cannabis, but I'd rather take it in a pill or juice it. lol

[Acala]

And yet, Willie Nelson and Tommy Chong are still going... Hmmm...

They didn't inhale. Much. And they are both schizophrenics.

[BenIsForRon]

Does ingestion manner have a bearing? I wouldn't mind trying some cannabis, but I'd rather take it in a pill or juice it. lol

hahaha. You can't really juice it, but you can cook it with butter and use the butter in a recipe, like brownies. The high usually lasts a lot longer, especially if you eat a lot.

[AFPVet]

Does ingestion manner have a bearing? I wouldn't mind trying some cannabis, but I'd rather take it in a pill or juice it. lol

Put some in brownies :)


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• Harlequin
• Black Domina
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• Cannatonic
• Juanita la Lagrimosa
• Misty
• Good Medicine
• Maz’s CheeseDowntown Diesel
• Cotton Candy x Diesel (Excellent)
• Sugaree x Blue Diesel
• SFVR-4
• Bubblegum Kush
• Intensive Care OG
• Kush
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• Poison OG
• Granny Durkel
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• Purple Diesel
• Silver Dragon
• Monkey Balls
• F5 Manawell
• Sweet SF x OG
• Black Queen

[AuH20]

In other news, sucking on a tailpipe will increase your cognitive abilities tenfold.

[jkr]

CHONG has prostate cancer...

[Acala]

hahaha. You can't really juice it, but you can cook it with butter and use the butter in a recipe, like brownies. The high usually lasts a lot longer, especially if you eat a lot.

And you can blast liquid butane through it and scrape up the residue left when the butane evaporates. And put THAT in your taco. I've been told.

[Acala]

CHONG has prostate cancer...

I'm sorry to hear that.

[Tpoints]

Bob Marley died of cancer. Timothy Leary died of cancer.

what did Steve Jobs and Aaron Russo die of?

[Zippyjuan]

Add George Harrison to the list of tokers who died from cancer.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/2010/10/21/Medical-Marijuana-Advocate-Michelle-Rainey-Dies-Cancer


Medical Marijuana Advocate Michelle Rainey Dies From Cancer

Prince of Pot Marc Emery's ex-business partner and blonde bombshell medical marijuana advocate, Michelle Rainey has died from cancer.


http://gothamist.com/2012/07/15/pro-medical_marijuana_brooklyn_judg.php


Pro-Medical Marijuana Brooklyn Judge Dies From Cancer

Two months ago, Brooklyn judge Gustin Reichbach wrote an op-ed for the NY Times, expressing his support for medical marijuana and detailing his three-and-a-half year struggle with stage 3 pancreatic cancer, "My survival has demanded an enormous price, including months of chemotherapy, radiation hell and brutal surgery... Inhaled marijuana is the only medicine that gives me some relief from nausea, stimulates my appetite, and makes it easier to fall asleep." Yesterday, Reichbach passed away in his Brooklyn home


http://host.madison.com/news/local/prominent-marijuana-activist-ben-masel-dies-of-cancer/article_68fbe4a4-7385-11e0-b755-001cc4c002e0.html


Prominent marijuana activist Ben Masel, 56, dies of cancer
April 30, 2011 6:51 pm • By CLAY BARBOUR

Ben Masel, prominent marijuana activist and professional rabble rouser, died Saturday from complications due to lung cancer. He was 56.

Diagnosed in January, Masel had recently made it through 25 radiation treatments for the disease, but was too weak to face chemotherapy. He died just before 9 a.m., surrounded by family at a nearby hospice center.

"He made a point of living at the front lines and fighting for his rights," said Semilla Anderson, Masel's daughter. "He will be remembered for that."

Masel was born in the Bronx and grew up in New Jersey. He moved to Madison in 1971 and quickly became a fixture of the counter-culture, known specifically for acts of civil disobedience in the cause of legalizing pot.


Read more: http://host.madison.com/news/local/prominent-marijuana-activist-ben-masel-dies-of-cancer/article_68fbe4a4-7385-11e0-b755-001cc4c002e0.html#ixzz2DYN7aeb6

[AFPVet]

Smoking it won't treat cancer, but the leaf oil from balanced strains can. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/marijuana-and-cancer_n_1898208.html


A pair of scientists at California Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco has found that a compound derived from marijuana could stop metastasis in many kinds of aggressive cancer, potentially altering the fatality of the disease forever.

"It took us about 20 years of research to figure this out, but we are very excited," said Pierre Desprez, one of the scientists behind the discovery, to The Huffington Post. "We want to get started with trials as soon as possible."

The Daily Beast first reported on the finding, which has already undergone both laboratory and animal testing, and is awaiting permission for clinical trials in humans.

Desprez, a molecular biologist, spent decades studying ID-1, the gene that causes cancer to spread. Meanwhile, fellow researcher Sean McAllister was studying the effects of Cannabidiol, or CBD, a non-toxic, non-psychoactive chemical compound found in the cannabis plant. Finally, the pair collaborated, combining CBD and cells containing high levels of ID-1 in a petri dish.

"What we found was that his Cannabidiol could essentially 'turn off' the ID-1," Desprez told HuffPost. The cells stopped spreading and returned to normal.

"We likely would not have found this on our own," he added. "That's why collaboration is so essential to scientific discovery."

Desprez and McAllister first published a paper about the finding in 2007. Since then, their team has found that CBD works both in the lab and in animals. And now, they've found even more good news.

"We started by researching breast cancer," said Desprez. "But now we've found that Cannabidiol works with many kinds of aggressive cancers--brain, prostate--any kind in which these high levels of ID-1 are present."

Desprez hopes that clinical trials will begin immediately.

"We've found no toxicity in the animals we've tested, and Cannabidiol is already used in humans for a variety of other ailments," he said. Indeed, the compound is used to relieve anxiety and nausea, and, since it is non-psychoactive, does not cause the "high" associated with THC.

While marijuana advocates will surely praise the discovery, Desprez explained that it's not so easy as just lighting up.

"We used injections in the animal testing and are also testing pills," he said. "But you could never get enough Cannabidiol for it to be effective just from smoking."

Furthermore, the team has started synthesizing the compound in the lab instead of using the plant in an effort to make it more potent.

"It's a common practice," explained Desprez. "But hopefully it will also keep us clear of any obstacles while seeking approval."

[Tpoints]

Cancer fighter? That's not what this page says!
http://www.populartechnology.net/2008/12/anti-marijuana-resource.html

[Zippyjuan]

Testicular cancer:

Marijuana use tied to testicular cancer in young men, cocaine use linked to risk reduction



(CBS News) Marijuana smoking may lead some men to develop especially serious types of testicular cancer, a new study finds.

The study - published online September 10 in the American Cancer Society's journal, Cancer - suggests that not only recreational pot-use but medicinal marijuana-smoking may be risky for young males.

Researchers from the University of Southern California in Los Angeles surveyed 163 young men diagnosed with testicular cancer on their past drug use and compared that data to self-reported histories from 292 healthy men of the same age and ethnicities.

Testicular cancer is the most common cancer diagnosed in men between 15 and 34, according to the Mayo Clinic, despite being considered rare compared to other types of cancer. There are two main types of testicular cancer: nonseminomas, which are thought to be more aggressive, develop earlier and grow and spread more rapidly and seminomas, which aren't as aggressive and respond better to radiation treatments.


The USC researchers found that men who had a history of smoking pot were more than twice as likely to have nonseminoma testicular cancer or another subtype called mixed germ cell tumors, which like nonseminomas, are linked to a worse prognosis.

"The group that is at risk for developing these tumors is overwhelmingly young men," study author Dr. Victoria Cortessis, assistant professor of preventive medicine at USC's Keck School of Medicine, told NBCNews.com.

[Acala]

I think all you can say from the evidence is that smoking the herb is not a 100% cancer preventative. Good controlled studies over long time periods with LOTS of subjects will be needed to say more. But it is a fun thread anyway.

[Tpoints]

Testicular cancer:

LMAO! MONEY!

[AFPVet]

It is interesting to note that while the compounds CBD and THC may be effective in treating cancer, smoking it is not (see previous reference).

[Acala]

Testicular cancer:

I am having a hard time figuring out this study. They have a sample of 163 men with cancer and they ask them about their pot usage. Presumably some percentage of them had some mj history. But then what are they comparing it to? 292 men who DIDN'T have the cancer and also DIDN'T smoke pot? Or did they smoke pot? I don't see how you can compare them and reach any valid finding? Someone want to explain it to me?

It seems to me you would need to survey a very large cross section of college-aged men, divide it into pot smokers and non-pot smokers, and then compare rates of the cancer. You would STILL have a ton of confounding variables, but at least it would be a valid comparison.

[jkr]

correlation NOT= causation

or sumfin like that

LOTS of people DIE from cancer

how many can be attributed to nuclear testing and fake f00d???

asbestos???

i could go on and on

[John F Kennedy III]

So far so good for me :)

[Tpoints]

correlation NOT= causation

or sumfin like that

LOTS of people DIE from cancer

how many can be attributed to nuclear testing and fake f00d???

asbestos???

i could go on and on

yes, it does. or else you'd be safe to drink fluoridated water and inject yourself with a bunch of vaccines, but we all know vaccines cause autism and fluoridation lowers IQ.

[VIDEODROME]

Caffeine lowers cancer risk. I'm sticking with my coffee.

[Zippyjuan]

I am having a hard time figuring out this study. They have a sample of 163 men with cancer and they ask them about their pot usage. Presumably some percentage of them had some mj history. But then what are they comparing it to? 292 men who DIDN'T have the cancer and also DIDN'T smoke pot? Or did they smoke pot? I don't see how you can compare them and reach any valid finding? Someone want to explain it to me?

It seems to me you would need to survey a very large cross section of college-aged men, divide it into pot smokers and non-pot smokers, and then compare rates of the cancer. You would STILL have a ton of confounding variables, but at least it would be a valid comparison.

Sorry I left of the link to the article. Here is a link to the study itself (I agree that the sample size seems pretty small which does limit how useful it may or may not be) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cncr.27554/abstract?systemMessage=Wiley+Online+Library+will+b e+disrupted+on+15+September+from+10%3A00-12%3A00+BST+%2805%3A00-07%3A00+EDT%29+for+essential+maintenance

Abstract


BACKGROUND:


Testicular germ cell tumor (TGCT) incidence increased steadily in recent decades, but causes remain elusive. Germ cell function may be influenced by cannabinoids, and 2 prior epidemiologic studies reported that the use of marijuana may be associated with nonseminomatous TGCT. Here, the authors evaluate the relation between TGCTs and exposure to marijuana and other recreational drugs using a population-based case-control study.


METHODS:


In total, 163 patients who were diagnosed with TGCT in Los Angeles County from December 1986 to April 1991 were enrolled, and 292 controls were matched on age, race/ethnicity, and neighborhood. Participants were asked about drug use by a structured, in-person interview. Odds ratios (ORs) and 95% confidence intervals (CIs) were estimated using conditional logistic regression analysis adjusted for history of cryptorchidism; education; religiosity; and reported use of marijuana, cocaine, and amyl nitrite.


RESULTS:


Compared with never use, ever use of marijuana had a 2-fold increased risk (OR, 1.94; 95% CI, 1.02-3.68), whereas ever use of cocaine had a negative association with TGCT (OR, 0.54; 95% CI, 0.32-0.91). Stratification on tumor histology revealed a specific association of marijuana use with nonseminoma and mixed histology tumors (OR, 2.42; 95% CI, 1.08-5.42).


CONCLUSIONS:


A specific association was observed between marijuana use and the risk of nonseminoma and mixed tumors. To the authors' knowledge, this is the first report of a negative association between cocaine use and TGCT risk. The current results warrant mechanistic studies of marijuana's effect on the endocannabinoid system and TGCT risk and caution that recreational and therapeutic use of cannabinoids by young men may confer malignant potential to testicular germ cells. Cancer 2012. © 2012 American Cancer Society.

[Acala]

Sorry I left of the link to the article. Here is a link to the study itself (I agree that the sample size seems pretty small) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cncr.27554/abstract?systemMessage=Wiley+Online+Library+will+b e+disrupted+on+15+September+from+10%3A00-12%3A00+BST+%2805%3A00-07%3A00+EDT%29+for+essential+maintenance

They must be using some statistical method I don't understand (not hard to find one). I am afraid and critical of things I don't understand. Therefore I hate and discount this study.

[fisharmor]

Well ghengis86 nailed it in the other thread: you can't point to studies that have been done with a controlled substance.
Regardless of whether the different breeds have different properties, no breed commonly available on the black market is going to be perfectly analogous to what researchers can likely get their hands on.
It's not exactly apples and oranges, but it's at best carrots and parsnips.

[DerailingDaTrain]

hahaha. You can't really juice it, but you can cook it with butter and use the butter in a recipe, like brownies. The high usually lasts a lot longer, especially if you eat a lot.

I'll just leave this here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xPmR8j4plw

[Czolgosz]

I'll just leave this here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xPmR8j4plw

wewt!

[Lucille]

CHONG has prostate cancer...

Had! He cured it using hemp oil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI) only to treat it. Tommy Chong (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mhFCZxwQQs): "Prison Gave Me Cancer."


Tommy Chong (http://canadianawareness.org/2012/08/tommy-chong-cured-his-cancer-with-hemp-oil/) started fighting his cancer by ingesting hemp oil. Ingesting hemp oil for only 1 month he is now cancer free. CLICK HERE (http://twitter.com/tommychong/status/224651609651675136) to view is his very own twitter account admitting it.

He encourages everyone to watch the documentary called Run From The Cure featuring Pot Activist Rick Simpson. This is the documentary that informed Tommy Chong about the cure for cancer through cannabis.


Smoking it won't treat cancer, but the leaf oil from balanced strains can. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/marijuana-and-cancer_n_1898208.html

Exactly. It only makes sense that sucking burning hot smoke into your lungs can't be good for them, no matter what the substance is.

[dannno]

^That's what I'm talking about..

Except that I have seen studies that people who smoke cannabis are less likely to have lung cancer, so I don't think smoking it is necessarily bad for your lungs. Especially if you use high quality strains, water filter/cool down the smoke, etc..

[ZENemy]

lol

White Sugar
White Flour
White Salt

Those 3 items probably cause 90% of the worlds cancers.

[PaulConventionWV]

This is in response to this thread:

Marijuana causes brain damage, linked to schizophrenia
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?396919-Marijuana-causes-brain-damage-linked-to-schizophrenia







http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8155-marijuana-might-cause-new-cell-growth-in-the-brain.html




http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/is-marijuana-a-potential-cure-for-cancer/762

Also see: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?396954-Marijuana-Makes-You-Smart-Happy-and-Cancer-Free&p=4752926&viewfull=1#post4752926


Cannabis does not cause schizophrenia, it actually helps treat and provide relief for the condition

http://blog.norml.org/2010/02/16/supposed-marijuana-and-schizophrenia-link-%E2%80%9Coverstated%E2%80%9D/



Anybody who buys the anti-cannabis propaganda may as well believe our government when they say that Iran is close to developing nuclear weapons.

If your goal is to enlighten, best not to make the thread title sound like satire.

[Lucille]

@tommychong (http://twitter.com/tommychong/status/224651609651675136) Did I mention I am 99% cancer free? Thanks to my "medication". Hemp oil works but you have to believe.....I believe....tc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI

[Peace Piper]

Bob Marley died of cancer. Timothy Leary died of cancer.

Not lung cancer

In July 1977, Marley was found to have a type of malignant melanoma under the nail of one of his toes.
(Acral lentiginous melanoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acral_lentiginous_melanoma))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_marley


In early 1995, Leary was diagnosed with inoperable prostate cancer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdj1xpLMK11qjynl8o1_cover.jpg
"Herb is the healing of a Nation" -RNM O.M.

[dannno]

If your goal is to enlighten, best not to make the thread title sound like satire.

I have to admit it's a bit of a satire on the other thread's exaggerated title.

Ok, so smoking cannabis may prevent cancer in some cases but it may not keep people 100% cancer free unless you use a different treatment method such as what Tommy Chong used. Though I don't think it would hurt to also smoke a bunch of hashish.

It may help open new doors of perception but it isn't necessarily going to make your rich and successful. I just think it is important to point out that many successful and intelligent people use the substance on a regular basis.

[Acala]

Not lung cancer

In July 1977, Marley was found to have a type of malignant melanoma under the nail of one of his toes.
(Acral lentiginous melanoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acral_lentiginous_melanoma))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_marley


In early 1995, Leary was diagnosed with inoperable prostate cancer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdj1xpLMK11qjynl8o1_cover.jpg
"Herb is the healing of a Nation" -RNM O.M.

"cancer free" includes toes and prostate. However, I was being facetious with my posting.

[Lucille]

I have to admit it's a bit of a satire on the other thread's exaggerated title.

Ok, so smoking cannabis may prevent cancer in some cases but it may not keep people 100% cancer free unless you use a different treatment method such as what Tommy Chong used. Though I don't think it would hurt to also smoke a bunch of hashish.

It may help open new doors of perception but it isn't necessarily going to make your rich and successful. I just think it is important to point out that many successful and intelligent people use the substance on a regular basis.

Rick Simpson (http://www.phoenixtears.ca/) recommends taking it to prevent cancer and other maladies.


AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE: Fighting The Damage Caused By Radiation

After the horrible earthquake in Japan, that has caused all this damage to many of the nuclear reactors that are operating in that country, radiation is now spreading worldwide. With high levels of radiation being released into the atmosphere on a continuous basis, it will have a devastating effect on the lives of most living creatures. But once again if used properly high quality hemp oil can provide a solution that will be of great help to mankind in alleviating this situation. For years I have been telling the public, that every man woman and child on this earth, should be taking small doses of this oil everyday to maintain good health. With all the radiation that is now entering our atmosphere, it is basically urgent, that we now all start ingesting this oil as soon as possible to undo the damage this radiation will cause. Through my experience with the use of this oil, I have found that there is nothing more effective or more harmless that can reduce the damage caused by radiation. I have seen patients that were suffering from cancer who were badly damaged by the effects of radiation treatments, that were able to completely eliminate the damage in a short time. Some who have come to me that had radiation treatments, were burned so badly by its effects that their shin looked like red leather. After ingesting the oil treatment their skin went back to its normal healthy state and the radiation burns disappeared completely. If the oil can do this for someone that was badly damaged by such so called medical treatments, would its use not be effective to combat the effects of the radiation, now emanating from Japan.

There are thousands of reasons why the medicinal use of the cannabis plant, should never have been restricted in the first place. But now with the menace that all this escaping radiation presents, we would have to be insane to turn our backs on the use of hemp extracts to help us all deal with this situation. I truly feel sorry for the misery the people of Japan are now going through and if nothing can be done to stop the radiation from escaping, they may loose their homeland entirely. Don’t be fooled by government double talk, radiation is an invisible but dangerous threat to the well being of us all and only a complete fool would try to say otherwise. The wondrous medicinal effects of properly produced oil from the cannabis hemp plant are finally being recognized once more worldwide. This is just one more reason, we must begin to start growing this plant on a grand scale and it is time that we all told our governments that we have had enough of their nonsense. Our very lives and the lives of coming generations, plus the well being of many other species are at stake and its now up to us, to determine what future mankind is to have.

Best Wishes,

Rick Simpson

He published an ebook (http://phoenixtears.ca/buy-phoenixtears-the-rick-simpson-story/)!

[Danke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy66MUZP538


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAVwWtxeGjA

[kcchiefs6465]

They didn't inhale. Much. And they are both schizophrenics.
What?? Acala I am disappointed. You are usually one of the more level headed posters. First, what makes you assume they didn't inhale much when everytime they are doing an interview and stop for a toke they hold the smoke in for 10 seconds straight. Second, why do you consider them schizophrenics? Both are very respectable political activists. I know many seniors who have smoked their entire life that have not had one ill effect from it. And trust and believe, they inhale. I think many people are just plain unaware of just how many people use marijuana recreationally. The numbers, in all probability, would shock me. I've known Sheriffs, doctors/nurses etc. that toke up on a regular basis. Once this stigma (myth) that marijuana is mentally debilitating is lifted, you will see all types of people stepping forward to join the cause. Don't take Heath's studies to heart. (Though NIDA does :eek:) He experimented with some truly wicked shit, the likes of which rival Tuskegee in their barbarity/unethicality.

[carclinic]

This is in response to this thread:

Marijuana causes brain damage, linked to schizophrenia
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?396919-Marijuana-causes-brain-damage-linked-to-schizophrenia







http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8155-marijuana-might-cause-new-cell-growth-in-the-brain.html




http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/is-marijuana-a-potential-cure-for-cancer/762

Also see: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?396954-Marijuana-Makes-You-Smart-Happy-and-Cancer-Free&p=4752926&viewfull=1#post4752926


Cannabis does not cause schizophrenia, it actually helps treat and provide relief for the condition

http://blog.norml.org/2010/02/16/supposed-marijuana-and-schizophrenia-link-%E2%80%9Coverstated%E2%80%9D/



Anybody who buys the anti-cannabis propaganda may as well believe our government when they say that Iran is close to developing nuclear weapons.
Consider the sources, but any legitimate scientific inquiry is good.

[compromise]

Wait, people here are seriously promoting pot use? Encouraging people to use pot?
Sure, it should be legal, but it doesn't mean everyone should start doing it.

[Todd]

Add George Harrison to the list of tokers who died from cancer.



McCartney's still going strong and he did more than Harrison. Still does I believe.



I think that there are a lot of great medicinal qualities that Cannabis can have on a person, but I also believe that taking smoke into your lungs in any form over a long period can lead to major health risks.

[Acala]

What?? Acala I am disappointed. You are usually one of the more level headed posters. First, what makes you assume they didn't inhale much when everytime they are doing an interview and stop for a toke they hold the smoke in for 10 seconds straight. Second, why do you consider them schizophrenics? Both are very respectable political activists. I know many seniors who have smoked their entire life that have not had one ill effect from it. And trust and believe, they inhale. I think many people are just plain unaware of just how many people use marijuana recreationally. The numbers, in all probability, would shock me. I've known Sheriffs, doctors/nurses etc. that toke up on a regular basis. Once this stigma (myth) that marijuana is mentally debilitating is lifted, you will see all types of people stepping forward to join the cause. Don't take Heath's studies to heart. (Though NIDA does :eek:) He experimented with some truly wicked shit, the likes of which rival Tuskegee in their barbarity/unethicality.

I was joking. Sorry to have mislead you. The "didn't inhale" was a Clinton-era reference and the schizo comment was just me being silly. I have known MANY heavy pot smokers and never knew one that ended up with mental health problems that didn't have them to begin with.

But I stick with my observation that heavy pot smoking tends to derail people's motivation. Not in everyone, not always, but enough that people should be aware of it.

[amonasro]

The cancer treatment is made by making a highly potent butane extraction of top-quality cannabis and ingesting small amounts of it, as much as the patient can stand. Typically indica strains are used to promote sleep and healing. This bombards the system with cannabinoids all day long. It is nothing like regular smoking.

The guy who pioneered this method, Rick Simpson, has been chased all over the world by the medical industrial complex so he must be doing something right. He has been successful curing many types of cancer with his oil. His recipe is available for free on his website, and the plant can be grown for almost free if you have the motivation and resources.

[PaulConventionWV]

I have to admit it's a bit of a satire on the other thread's exaggerated title.

Ok, so smoking cannabis may prevent cancer in some cases but it may not keep people 100% cancer free unless you use a different treatment method such as what Tommy Chong used. Though I don't think it would hurt to also smoke a bunch of hashish.

It may help open new doors of perception but it isn't necessarily going to make your rich and successful. I just think it is important to point out that many successful and intelligent people use the substance on a regular basis.

Absolutely. If I had more money, I would use it myself. I should be getting a knock from the DEA soon for saying that.

[PaulConventionWV]

What?? Acala I am disappointed. You are usually one of the more level headed posters. First, what makes you assume they didn't inhale much when everytime they are doing an interview and stop for a toke they hold the smoke in for 10 seconds straight. Second, why do you consider them schizophrenics? Both are very respectable political activists. I know many seniors who have smoked their entire life that have not had one ill effect from it. And trust and believe, they inhale. I think many people are just plain unaware of just how many people use marijuana recreationally. The numbers, in all probability, would shock me. I've known Sheriffs, doctors/nurses etc. that toke up on a regular basis. Once this stigma (myth) that marijuana is mentally debilitating is lifted, you will see all types of people stepping forward to join the cause. Don't take Heath's studies to heart. (Though NIDA does :eek:) He experimented with some truly wicked shit, the likes of which rival Tuskegee in their barbarity/unethicality.

I just heard from a reliable source that the number of people who use marijuana in the US is around 14.6million. That's a little less than 5%. I'm actually surprised it's not higher.

[PaulConventionWV]

Wait, people here are seriously promoting pot use? Encouraging people to use pot?
Sure, it should be legal, but it doesn't mean everyone should start doing it.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't either. Learn to distinguish between good behavior and bad behavior. Not all illegal drugs are harmful.

[kcchiefs6465]

Wait, people here are seriously promoting pot use? Encouraging people to use pot?
Sure, it should be legal, but it doesn't mean everyone should start doing it.
"Please smoke responsibly"

[dannno]

I just heard from a reliable source that the number of people who use marijuana in the US is around 14.6million. That's a little less than 5%. I'm actually surprised it's not higher.

If somebody randomly called you on the phone to take a survey and asked if you used illcit drugs, what are the chances that you would tell them you did?

[AFPVet]

Well, cannabis is gathering momentum at an astonishing rate. Washington, Colorado, and perhaps soon, Indiana will allow the use of small amounts for recreational purposes by using the same laws that are used to regulate alcohol.

[jmdrake]

Add George Harrison to the list of tokers who died from cancer.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/2010/10/21/Medical-Marijuana-Advocate-Michelle-Rainey-Dies-Cancer
[i]Pro-Medical Marijuana Brooklyn Judge Dies From Cancer

Two months ago, Brooklyn judge Gustin Reichbach wrote an op-ed for the NY Times, expressing his support for medical marijuana and detailing his three-and-a-half year struggle with stage 3 pancreatic cancer, "My survival has demanded an enormous price, including months of chemotherapy, radiation hell and brutal surgery... Inhaled marijuana is the only medicine that gives me some relief from nausea, stimulates my appetite, and makes it easier to fall asleep." Yesterday, Reichbach passed away in his Brooklyn home [i]


Sounds like cancer caused the marijuana use and not the other way around.

[Mach]

Dig in.....

http://www.brainlife.org/integrative/cannabinoids.htm

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SAMPLE (Abstract)

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/68/2/339.abstract


Cannabinoids are a class of pharmacologic compounds that offer potential applications as antitumor drugs, based on the ability of some members of this class to limit inflammation, cell proliferation, and cell survival. In particular, emerging evidence suggests that agonists of cannabinoid receptors expressed by tumor cells may offer a novel strategy to treat cancer. Here, we review recent work that raises interest in the development and exploration of potent, nontoxic, and nonhabit forming cannabinoids for cancer therapy. [Cancer Res 2008;68(2):339–42]

[Peace Piper]

Dig in.....
http://www.brainlife.org/integrative/cannabinoids.htm
~~~
SAMPLE (Abstract)
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/68/2/339.abstract

that is why this patent was granted on October 7, 2003

Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants
United States Patent 6,630,507
Abstract

Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia...much more

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6630507.PN.&OS=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6630507

they lied about no medical use while taking out a patent on the use

[Dr.3D]

If somebody randomly called you on the phone to take a survey and asked if you used illcit drugs, what are the chances that you would tell them you did?
Yeah really, of course you would say, "Yes officer, I use illicit drugs every day." /s

[PaulConventionWV]

If somebody randomly called you on the phone to take a survey and asked if you used illcit drugs, what are the chances that you would tell them you did?

I'm not sure exactly how they did the study, but you would think there were ways around the confession thing. Or maybe not, I'm not sure. Is there a way to do such a study without eliminating a significant portion of potential responders?

[Jordan]

I don't think it should be illegal. However, I do believe the medicinal benefits are grossly overstated and in fact, I'm inclined to believe it creates more negative outcomes than positive outcomes.

[opal]

How many of those folks that toked up, had cancer and died went through chemo and radiation? Chemo kills.. can't be blaming the weed for the body's reaction to toxic chemicals and being radiated. After the damage from those.. fixing what's left, if anything is a tall order.

[AFPVet]

I don't think it should be illegal. However, I do believe the medicinal benefits are grossly overstated and in fact, I'm inclined to believe it creates more negative outcomes than positive outcomes.

I would tend to agree with you if cannabis is smoked. Cannabis has a rather large stigma attached to it since so many people believe that the only way to ingest it is by smoking a joint. While that is one of the ways, you can vaporize it, put it into brownies, juice it, make tea out of it, sprinkle it on foods, the list goes on.

Personally, I don't believe in smoking anything, but if you can get the academically proven benefits of cannabinoids without smoking the balanced (THC/CBD) cannabis, why wouldn't it be a bad thing?

[man is truth]

Absolutely. If I had more money, I would use it myself. I should be getting a knock from the DEA soon for saying that.

haha you need to get out more man- weed is everywhere with no enforcement at all beyond side-walk shakedowns of black people in suspicious cars; you have to be dumb as shit or just really crap out on luck to ever get caught, and even if you do, unless it is a huge quantity meant for wholesale distribution, the first possession offense is nothing to worry about- there is even a good chance that the cops will just steal it and not prosecute you for it if they don't feel like going and doing all of the paperwork on you.

it is also cheap as shit yo...and, anyone who pays for drugs is doing it wrong; drugs should always make money, at least enough of it that you get high for free.

[dannno]

and, anyone who pays for drugs is doing it wrong; drugs should always make money, at least enough of it that you get high for free.


Sounds like MLM

[QuickZ06]

Wait, people here are seriously promoting pot use? Encouraging people to use pot?
Sure, it should be legal, but it doesn't mean everyone should start doing it.

Have you ever seen a beer commercial?

[dannno]

More proof:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?410494-Cardiovascular-Surgeon-%93Cannabis-is-an-essential-part-of-the-human-diet-

[HOLLYWOOD]

Sorry I don't believe any of it about MJ... Anheuser-Busch says it's bad and they have spent $30 MILLION of their money lobbying informing Washington DC just how bad it is for "U.S."

http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000042510

[talkingpointes]

Zippy Juan: no one stated it worked a 100% of the time. Also do you have any idea statically how people die in the US? Most people taking anti-cancer drugs will still die from - you guessed it - cancer!

[talkingpointes]

Sorry I don't believe any of it about MJ... Anheuser-Busch says it's bad and they have spent $30 MILLION of their money lobbying informing Washington DC just how bad it is for "U.S."

http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000042510

Yeah, everyone knows alcohol has such a good record with people that if they didn't talk about how bad marijuana is they would have nothing to talk about. Alcohol is a walk in the park, have any of you guys went to a pot pub - my god, fights, rape, it runs the gamut.

[kcchiefs6465]

I believe marijuana kills brain cells. A quasi-CIA (racist) brain electrode implanting scientist told me so.

(Dr. Robert Heath)

[Pawpax3]

I was in Vietnam during the war there from 1968-69 and again during 70-71. Most of us removed our gas masks from the protective bags and used those bags to collect and store our marijuana. I dried it and tried it, and it did nothing positive for me. To the contrary, it dulled my senses and made me less able to adequately perform my duties. I've also witnessed what it did for and to others with whom I served, and seen the effects of marijuana use by active duty soldiers first hand. The effects that I personally witnessed were so disturbing that I gave mine away and have never again used it.

Yes, I'm a newbie to this board. But that doesn't neutralize or cancel out my first hand knowledge and experience with the topic at hand.
That said, I can never support the legalization of marijuana.

[kcchiefs6465]

I was in Vietnam during the war there from 1968-69 and again during 70-71. Most of us removed our gas masks from the protective bags and used those bags to collect and store our marijuana. I dried it and tried it, and it did nothing positive for me. To the contrary, it dulled my senses and made me less able to adequately perform my duties. I've also witnessed what it did for and to others with whom I served, and seen the effects of marijuana use by active duty soldiers first hand. The effects that I personally witnessed were so disturbing that I gave mine away and have never again used it.

Yes, I'm a newbie to this board. But that doesn't neutralize or cancel out my first hand knowledge and experience with the topic at hand.
That said, I can never support the legalization of marijuana.
Are you sure others weren't smoking opium or dabbling in harder drugs?

Oh, and welcome. :)

[jonhowe]

I use a vaporizer because it's good for me.

[NewRightLibertarian]

I use a vaporizer because it's good for me.

same here. it's the smart way to medicate and i highly recommend it

[dannno]

I was in Vietnam during the war there from 1968-69 and again during 70-71. Most of us removed our gas masks from the protective bags and used those bags to collect and store our marijuana. I dried it and tried it, and it did nothing positive for me. To the contrary, it dulled my senses and made me less able to adequately perform my duties. I've also witnessed what it did for and to others with whom I served, and seen the effects of marijuana use by active duty soldiers first hand. The effects that I personally witnessed were so disturbing that I gave mine away and have never again used it.

Yes, I'm a newbie to this board. But that doesn't neutralize or cancel out my first hand knowledge and experience with the topic at hand.
That said, I can never support the legalization of marijuana.

Well I smoke weed all day everyday and I got a bachelors degree and a master's degree while doing so, and you want to send armed gunmen to my house and take the plants that I grow myself, for myself. Wow. Either you haven't thought this through very well or you are a real piece of work.

Stop telling other people what to do.

Also, cannabis helps prevent cancer, stroke and heart disease. It helps regulate countless bodily functions. It is literally a miracle drug. Educate yourself, please.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?410494-Cardiovascular-Surgeon-%93Cannabis-is-an-essential-part-of-the-human-diet-

[RickyJ]

Large doses of Niacin also help schizophrenia and other mental disorders.

[Dr.3D]

I was in Vietnam during the war there from 1968-69 and again during 70-71. Most of us removed our gas masks from the protective bags and used those bags to collect and store our marijuana. I dried it and tried it, and it did nothing positive for me. To the contrary, it dulled my senses and made me less able to adequately perform my duties. I've also witnessed what it did for and to others with whom I served, and seen the effects of marijuana use by active duty soldiers first hand. The effects that I personally witnessed were so disturbing that I gave mine away and have never again used it.

Yes, I'm a newbie to this board. But that doesn't neutralize or cancel out my first hand knowledge and experience with the topic at hand.
That said, I can never support the legalization of marijuana.
Interesting, I was there for two tours of duty myself and I had just the opposite experience. Maybe you guys got a bad load from some field that had some AO in it or something.

[DamianTV]

If the title of the article is true, no wonder its fucking illegal!

[Pawpax3]

Well I smoke weed all day everyday and I got a bachelors degree and a master's degree while doing so, and you want to send armed gunmen to my house and take the plants that I grow myself, for myself. Wow. Either you haven't thought this through very well or you are a real piece of work.

Stop telling other people what to do.

Also, cannabis helps prevent cancer, stroke and heart disease. It helps regulate countless bodily functions. It is literally a miracle drug. Educate yourself, please.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?410494-Cardiovascular-Surgeon-%93Cannabis-is-an-essential-part-of-the-human-diet-

That's where you are mistaken about me. I have no desire or intent to tell you what you can and can't do in the privacy of your own home. And I never said I want to send anyone anywhere to do anything. I don't care two rips what you do in your own home, but I don't approve of it's use in public. I'd no more want someone smoking marijuana driving down the road than I would want someone driving who's been drinking in a bar for hours.
Fwiw, I believe in personal freedom. I also believe in responsibility.

[tod evans]

I too smoked weed in the 60's and 70's and have a completely different viewpoint.

I do not believe that smoking/eating/etc. marijuana should be illegal.

In my experience it is far less harmful than many over the counter "drugs" and is in my opinion, more beneficial than many prescription drugs.

Weed will get you high, booze will get you drunk, various other compounds will have other effects on your consciousness...

It is not my place to limit what compositions are available for you to use as you see fit, please don't try to place arbitrary limits on me.


I was in Vietnam during the war there from 1968-69 and again during 70-71. Most of us removed our gas masks from the protective bags and used those bags to collect and store our marijuana. I dried it and tried it, and it did nothing positive for me. To the contrary, it dulled my senses and made me less able to adequately perform my duties. I've also witnessed what it did for and to others with whom I served, and seen the effects of marijuana use by active duty soldiers first hand. The effects that I personally witnessed were so disturbing that I gave mine away and have never again used it.

Yes, I'm a newbie to this board. But that doesn't neutralize or cancel out my first hand knowledge and experience with the topic at hand.
That said, I can never support the legalization of marijuana.

[Root]

I use a vaporizer because it's good for me.


same here. it's the smart way to medicate and i highly recommend it

I gave up smoking almost two years ago,in favor of only vaporizing. Now I save my vape leftovers for use in making canna-coconut oil, which is my favorite method of ingestion.

I smoked on and off for twenty years, and I don't miss it a bit.

[enjerth]

I was in Vietnam during the war there from 1968-69 and again during 70-71. Most of us removed our gas masks from the protective bags and used those bags to collect and store our marijuana. I dried it and tried it, and it did nothing positive for me. To the contrary, it dulled my senses and made me less able to adequately perform my duties. I've also witnessed what it did for and to others with whom I served, and seen the effects of marijuana use by active duty soldiers first hand. The effects that I personally witnessed were so disturbing that I gave mine away and have never again used it.

Yes, I'm a newbie to this board. But that doesn't neutralize or cancel out my first hand knowledge and experience with the topic at hand.
That said, I can never support the legalization of marijuana.

Who knows what my nose knows?