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Brian4Liberty
11-23-2012, 12:28 PM
There has been some talk in the media about US foreign aid in relation to Egypt and Israel. Did Hillary write some big checks to purchase this most recent ceasefire?

Question answered.

Edited to add:


September 28, 2012

The Obama administration notified Congress on Friday that it would provide Egypt’s new government an emergency cash infusion of $450 million...

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/29/world/middleeast/white-house-move-to-give-egypt-450-million-in-aid-meets-resistance.html?_r=0

Dr.3D
11-23-2012, 12:30 PM
There has been some talk in the media about US foreign aid in relation to Egypt and Israel. Did Hillary write some big checks to purchase this most recent ceasefire?
Sounds like a plausible theory.

Edit:
Has foreign aid to Egypt and Israel been approved by congress already?

Brian4Liberty
11-23-2012, 12:48 PM
This article seems to confirm the fact that the "peace" was purchased.


The diplomacy clearly strengthened a U.S.-Egyptian partnership that has been strained in the 21 months since Egyptians toppled Mubarak.

In that time, Washington angrily protested Cairo's crackdown on U.S.-funded pro-democracy groups, its slow response to attacks on the Israeli and U.S. embassies, and its inconsistent control over the Sinai Peninsula.

The U.S. regularly threatened to withhold aid, and Obama remarked in September that he no longer considered Egypt an ally.
...
Obama also vowed to help the Israelis address the smuggling of weapons and explosives into Gaza and pledged additional funding for Iron Dome and other U.S.-Israeli missile defense programs.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/us-pins-its-hopes-on-egypt-for-israel-hamas-peace-india-today/1/230438.html

Bruno
11-23-2012, 01:12 PM
Ah, funding both sides of a war through inflation on the backs of taxpayers to promote peace. Fun times with U.S. Foreign Policy.

itshappening
11-23-2012, 01:29 PM
More likely she gave Morsi the green light to do the power grab he's just done which has left many Egyptians furious and rioting on the streets as we speak.

Morsi is now the new puppet in Egypt. A very rich one.

Brian4Liberty
11-23-2012, 01:57 PM
More likely she gave Morsi the green light to do the power grab he's just done which has left many Egyptians furious and rioting on the streets as we speak.

Morsi is now the new puppet in Egypt. A very rich one.

Yeah, I just saw that story. Creating another Dictator, how wonderful. Such an achievement for Hillary and Obama.

JK/SEA
11-23-2012, 02:17 PM
safe to assume so.

its only fake money...no worries..

Brian4Liberty
11-24-2012, 10:21 AM
Did Hillary OK this?


Egypt's Morsi assumes sweeping powers

By Jailan Zayan (AFP) – 1 day ago*

CAIRO — Egypt's Islamist President Mohamed Morsi assumed sweeping powers on Thursday, drawing criticism that he is seeking to become a "new pharaoh" and raising questions about the gains of last year's uprising which ousted Hosni Mubarak.

The move is a blow to the pro-democracy movement that toppled the long-time president, himself derided by many as a pharaoh, and raises concerns that Islamists will be further ensconced in power.

Opposition forces denounced the declaration as a "coup" and called for nationwide protests on Friday.

"The president can issue any decision or measure to protect the revolution," according to a decree read out on television by presidential spokesman Yasser Ali.

"The constitutional declarations, decisions and laws issued by the president are final and not subject to appeal."

rprprs
11-24-2012, 10:49 AM
Bombs and bribes. What an exemplary foreign policy we have. A true model for the rest of the world. :rolleyes:

Brian4Liberty
11-24-2012, 11:24 AM
Bombs and bribes. What an exemplary foreign policy we have. A true model for the rest of the world. :rolleyes:

Even worse, it's rewarding bad behavior. We are incentivizing war.

jkr
11-24-2012, 11:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umeZtszNShk

Brian4Liberty
11-24-2012, 12:17 PM
Video which includes a reference to paying off Morsi:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1986987752001/administration-walking-fine-line-with-egypt/?playlist_id=938973798001

paulbot24
11-24-2012, 05:30 PM
When Morsi first "arrived" in Egypt, they were saying he was the new leader in a post-Mubarak, democratic, Islamist-led Egypt. Sounds strange, and even stranger, it almost sounds mostly positive doesn't it? You didn't really think they could continue to speak positively about this situation did you? Then he politically pushes Israel to the negotiating table with Hamas. Israel isn't used to being pushed into doing anything and they don't negotiate. Yet they did, and a ceasefire was announced. Of course, the next day, you have stories about angry Egyptians saying Morsi is now worse than Mubarak and there are questions about how "democratic" the process of bringing him to power really was. The people didn't even wait and see if he would use Mubarak's old (but made-in America) tear gas on them. I suppose it shouldn't matter since we've ousted democratically elected governments, dictators, hell even our own puppets we established, but the timing is interesting isn't it?

Dr.3D
11-24-2012, 05:32 PM
Looks more like she bought some strife for the people and government of Egypt.

KingRobbStark
11-24-2012, 07:53 PM
The Islamic brotherhood is Al Qaeda 2.0. Like Microsoft, our government will update the scare server from time to time.

paulbot24
11-24-2012, 09:20 PM
Wow. I stand corrected. I hadn't read the latest on what Morsi had pulled. I watched an hour long speech by Rand a few weeks ago about putting condition on foreign aid and how Hillary was wanting to actually increase aid to Egypt. I couldn't for the life of me understand why. Now I realize it should have been called "bribe-money", not aid. Morsi had me fooled. Apparently a lot of Egyptians are saying the same thing. Well, hell, that's what these forums are for, right?;)

Dr.3D
11-24-2012, 09:24 PM
Wow. I stand corrected. I hadn't read the latest on what Morsi had pulled. I watched an hour long speech by Rand a few weeks ago about putting condition on foreign aid and how Hillary was wanting to actually increase aid to Egypt. I couldn't for the life of me understand why. Now I realize it should have been called "bribe-money", not aid. Morsi had me fooled. Apparently a lot of Egyptians are saying the same thing. Well, hell, that's what these forums are for, right?;)
It's the same technique the federal government uses to get the states to do what they want. Withhold "aid" for highway upkeep. In other words, if they bribe the states with their own money, they can get the states to do as they wish. I'm pretty sure much of the bribe money comes back to the U.S. by the way of arms sales.

Brian4Liberty
11-25-2012, 10:38 AM
It's the same technique the federal government uses to get the states to do what they want. Withhold "aid" for highway upkeep. In other words, if they bribe the states with their own money, they can get the states to do as they wish. I'm pretty sure much of the bribe money comes back to the U.S. by the way of arms sales.

It usually involves putting the country in debt. Bribe money goes into the hands of the Dictators, the money that comes back is borrowed. Control them via debt and make money off of them at the same time. It's win, win! :rolleyes:

Brian4Liberty
11-26-2012, 03:25 PM
Well, what do we have here?


September 28, 2012

The Obama administration notified Congress on Friday that it would provide Egypt’s new government an emergency cash infusion of $450 million...

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/29/world/middleeast/white-house-move-to-give-egypt-450-million-in-aid-meets-resistance.html?_r=0

Dr.3D
11-26-2012, 03:43 PM
I don't know why, but every time I see this thread title, the name Hillary reads as Hillbilly. I just can't shake it.

Matt Collins
11-26-2012, 03:48 PM
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