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Anti Federalist
11-19-2012, 01:51 PM
Reasons I'm Opting Out of the TSA's Scanners (and You Should Too)

by Christopher Elliott
Huffington Post
November 19, 2012

http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/elliott1.1.1.html

Next week is one of the busiest of the year for air travel. And the last thing you probably want to see at the airport when you fly home for Thanksgiving is a long line -- especially one that's preventable.

But this year is different.

This Thanksgiving, I'm telling the TSA agents who screen me that I won't walk through their full-body scanners.

And I'm not alone. A group of activists who are concerned about the so-called "advanced" imaging technology are also urging air travelers to just say "no" next week.

Opting out means agents will either give you an "enhanced" pat-down or wave you through the screening area (and when there's a long line, it's a safe bet it'll be the latter). But the peaceful protest will also slow screenings to the point where the agency will have to reconsider the way it checks air travelers, as it did during a successful opt-out action two years ago.

A sustained protest could kill the scanners.

If you're one of the millions of Americans who fly, and don't think there's anything wrong with getting a full-body scan, let me offer a few reasons you should reconsider.

1. They're not adequately tested and could be dangerous. Unfortunately, the scanners you'll be asked to walk through haven't been properly tested. The latest independent evaluations are actually based on data provided by the TSA. The government wants us to trust it, but it won't give us a reason. That's unacceptable.

2. They're easily foiled. It's not difficult to sneak a weapon through a full-body scanner, according to several reports. The career criminals who might want to do us harm have figured out how to get around the scanners already.

3. They're too expensive. At a quarter of a million bucks a pop, the scanners are a huge waste of taxpayer money. To use one, or to allow one to be used on you, is is an endorsement of an iffy technology. It also lines the pockets of undeserving security contractors, say critics.

4. They probably violate your constitutional rights. Beyond the fact that they are nothing more than an overpriced visual deterrent to amateur terrorists, the TSA's scanners are constitutionally problematic. The Fourth Amendment's provisions against unreasonable searches are directly at odds with the way these scanners are deployed and used.

5. They haven't caught a single terrorist. Sure, they've netted plenty of contraband, which the TSA likes to show off weekly on its blog. But so far, not a single airborne jihadist has been caught with the scanners. Not a one.

National Opt-Out Week is a good start, and it comes on the heels of the TSA's humiliating withdrawal of its most controversial full-body scanners from major airports: the risky "backscatter" X-ray machines.

But in order to end the warrantless scans for good, we need to stand up at the same time and say "no" even after Opt-Out Week ends.

We need to do it until the TSA changes the way it screens us.

Danke
11-19-2012, 05:47 PM
I always do. :p

heavenlyboy34
11-19-2012, 05:52 PM
I always do. :pYou opt for the groping by the blue hand boys? Why am I not surprised? ;)

presence
11-19-2012, 06:04 PM
http://multiply.com/mu/bobbyblue4u/image/4/photos/upload/300x300/TO1SegooCtcAAFwfhS82/TSA-glove.jpg?et=NiETVmcQ%2CaixQtiSt%2CnxSg&nmid=390091398

Anti Federalist
11-19-2012, 06:07 PM
You opt for the groping by the blue hand boys? Why am I not surprised? ;)

Better than being irradiated and having a biometric "bodyprint" stored.

If just 10% did this, we could be rid of these infernal machines.

But of course, they won't.

Maybe 1/100 of a percent will.

And Rome continues to burn.

angelatc
11-19-2012, 07:18 PM
Shouldn't this title be "If You Choose To Fly etc?"

Danke
11-19-2012, 08:27 PM
Shouldn't this title be "If You Choose To Fly etc?"

As AF has pointed out many times, it is not just about flying.

torchbearer
11-19-2012, 08:31 PM
As AF has pointed out many times, it is not just about flying.

flying is just extra, i go for the extra special treatment. one day i'll get that happy ending.

Danke
11-19-2012, 08:38 PM
flying is just extra, i go for the extra special treatment. one day i'll get that happy ending.

I'll put a word in there for you.

Carehn
11-19-2012, 08:57 PM
well duh!

Matt Collins
11-19-2012, 09:41 PM
You're allowed to film them in most cases by the way -

http://blog.tsa.gov/2009/03/can-i-take-photos-at-checkpoint-and.html

ghengis86
11-19-2012, 11:01 PM
http://multiply.com/mu/bobbyblue4u/image/4/photos/upload/300x300/TO1SegooCtcAAFwfhS82/TSA-glove.jpg?et=NiETVmcQ%2CaixQtiSt%2CnxSg&nmid=390091398

Last time I had to fly, I swear it was this guy that got to put his hands down my pants. He said, "just a quick enhanced pat down and you'll be home free.". I looked at him and laughed, "home FREE??? you don't get the irony do you?". He just shrugged and said, "Arms out, palms up.". When he was done and I gathered my things and left Checkpoint Charlie, the stupid cunt standing at the exit said, "Have a nice day.". I paused, looked her in the eye for a brief second and then continued on my way. Thought about reliving her to get fucked, fuck off, go to hell, eat shit and die and many other things, put I wanted to catch my plane home and didn't want to get tasered, clubbed or shot. I knew she could tell I wanted to punch her face in with my mean muggin. I doubt she gave it another thought other than "turrist"


I think next time I opt for the pat down, I'll just start singing the national anthem or something similar at sub-top-of-my-lungs volume. Sadly, I think it will backfire and the irony will be lost on all. but it would make a great headline, "man detained at Airport for singing national anthem". Too bad the sheeple would still bleat " he deserved that skull thumping for not obeying"

I'm waiting for the day one of those fucks yells "Freeze!!!" as that seems to be the latest exercise in servility our leaders have devised to see how far they can control the sheep.

cjm
11-19-2012, 11:14 PM
I'm waiting for the day one of those fucks yells "Freeze!!!" as that seems to be the latest exercise in servility our leaders have devised to see how far they can control the sheep.

I'm either going to ignore the command or freeze with a Nazi salute. I haven't decided which yet and probably won't until the moment is upon me. It'll depend on the context and my mood. And yes, I do see the irony in a lone Nazi salute at a US airport and my chosen avatar.

lancer13
11-19-2012, 11:30 PM
Is it illegal to be so scared that you piss yourself when a guy shoves his hand into your crotch? I'd need ten beers first to really make it count but I think we could start a movement here.

John F Kennedy III
11-19-2012, 11:42 PM
If this were 1776 I'd be completely fine with TSA at airports.

cjm
11-28-2012, 12:01 AM
I almost canceled a trip this Thanksgiving since my local airport picked up a porno-scanner. I paid a premium to fly through small regional airports to avoid them and then I discovered a couple weeks ago that our local airport acquired one. My wife went and spoke to the agents down there and reported back that when we travel as a family (with kids under 12 or so), there would be no cancer box and no child molestation. I was pretty suspicious and counseled her to be ready for a last minute trip abort when they changed their minds and want to grope the children. But sure enough, all of those youtube videos and the subsequent uproar seems to have had a small, but real, effect. The metal detector is never used in "normal" operation, everyone gets the radiation or the molestation. But because we were traveling with kids, we got to go through the metal detector and had no pat-down whatsoever. The kids even kept their shoes on.

http://harmful.cat-v.org/security-theater/_imgs/tsa-choice-molestation-or-radiation.jpg

Anti Federalist
11-28-2012, 12:17 AM
I almost canceled a trip this Thanksgiving since my local airport picked up a porno-scanner. I paid a premium to fly through small regional airports to avoid them and then I discovered a couple weeks ago that our local airport acquired one. My wife went and spoke to the agents down there and reported back that when we travel as a family (with kids under 12 or so), there would be no cancer box and no child molestation. I was pretty suspicious and counseled her to be ready for a last minute trip abort when they changed their minds and want to grope the children. But sure enough, all of those youtube videos and the subsequent uproar seems to have had a small, but real, effect. The metal detector is never used in "normal" operation, everyone gets the radiation or the molestation. But because we were traveling with kids, we got to go through the metal detector and had no pat-down whatsoever. The kids even kept their shoes on.

http://harmful.cat-v.org/security-theater/_imgs/tsa-choice-molestation-or-radiation.jpg

That what is so maddening, insanely, pull my fucking hair our and howl at the moon frustrating about this.

When you push back, these fuckers will crimp and fold.

They did last go around, they just shut the porno scanners down, for weeks.

But trying to get the shuffling brain dead assholes at the gate rape stations to understand this, god, like trying to teach a pig to whistle.

And usually, about every other time, depending on how high my state of piss off is, I'll be loud and vocal about it, "Opt out, and so should all you people as well, this is a gross violation of our rights!".

Scared, blank looks of terror are all I get back.

Here's a similar story, had a couple of suits visit the vessel a couple of weeks back. While having a conversation with them, I needed something to write on and reached out on the table and grabbed one of the "pocket constitutions" that myself and another fellow salt around. They asked "what's that?" I explained what it was, ran off real quick and got two new copies, and handed it to them both.

From the look on their faces, you'd think I gave them a handful of spiders and snakes to hold.

Anti Federalist
11-28-2012, 12:19 AM
Our Rulers' Amoral Indignation

Posted by Becky Akers on November 27, 2012 08:35 AM

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/127180.html

In drivel the Washington Times shamelessly published, Rep[ugnant] Mike McCaul (R-TX) agonizes over the TSA’s exorbitant costs and its colossal wastes of our money. Not that both aren’t criminal, especially when we consider a lady in her 70s with whom I dined over the weekend. “Polly” was recently widowed, and happily so, given her husband’s abuse. That abuse extended to finances: unbeknownst to her, he charged tens of thousands of dollars on his credit cards, leaving her such overwhelming debts that she declared bankruptcy. She couldn’t sell their home in the economy Our Rulers have devastated, so the State auctioned it instead. Even so, the bank had to “forgive” half the mortgage owed, which the satanic IRS imputes as “income” to Polly. She now lives in a tiny rental, and though she’s elderly and in poor health, she still works in a vain effort to make ends meet. Yet the IRS will rob this pitiable woman of over $10,000 on “income” she never saw.

All to finance gate-rape, drones, the CIA and FBI's hijinks, foreign bombings, bail-outs, and the feds’ other atrocities. So McCaul’s scolding of the TSA is certainly justified. But he sounds like a member of the Reichstag, lamenting the high cost of preventing the Volk from marrying Jews. There’s not a hint that we are dealing with an utterly immoral, predatory bureaucracy whose legion of victims cry out for its abolition; instead, McCaul’s britches are in a wad because the TSA doesn’t molest children within budget.

Meanwhile, every penny of that budget is stolen, looted from millions of suffering people like Polly. But again, such merciless plunder doesn’t faze McCaul. No, this unconscionable “chairman of the Homeland Security Oversight, Investigations and Management Subcommittee” merely objects to the amount of the spoils, not the theft itself.

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government…”

cjm
11-28-2012, 12:20 AM
From the look on their faces, you'd think I gave them a handful of spiders and snakes to hold.

LOL...I know that look quite well ;)