Is this on the level?

[osan]

Is this quote accurate?

That woman has some of the most hollow, dead, and soulless eyes I have ever seen... not unlike Pelosi. Crazy eyes like that often go with seriously crazy people. Hitler had them and so did Stalin and many of his closest henchmen, like the wildly murderous Yezhov. The apparent correllation seems strong.https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/76269_364703766953700_2147461538_n.jpg

[thoughtomator]

I do believe it is.

We're basically one arrest (Speaker Boehner) away from an outright dictatorship.

[Odin]

I do believe it is.

We're basically one arrest (Speaker Boehner) away from an outright dictatorship.

So John Boehner is what is standing between us and tyranny? God help us.

[Deborah K]

This woman is way too smart, and cunning to openly say something that threatening and arrogant. Is this a direct quote caught by the press/media, or second hand by someone who doesn't like her?

[jj-]

This woman is way too smart, and cunning to openly say something that threatening and arrogant. Is this a direct quote caught by the press/media, or second hand by someone who doesn't like her?

Psychopaths can't help but brag. They feel a bit uncomfortable when they hide their hatred and desire for massive destruction and death.

[Deborah K]

Psychopaths can't help but brag. They feel a bit uncomfortable when they hide their hatred and desire for massive destruction and death.

Perhaps, but they're also very strategic. And this statement is reckless.

Obama is a mere puppet, and so are his cronies. Doesn't mean they can't exact some pain, but he is where he is because those who own the banks wanted it.

[Odin]

Perhaps, but they're also very strategic. And this statement is reckless.

Obama is a mere puppet, and so are his cronies. Doesn't mean they can't exact some pain, but he is where he is because those who own the banks wanted it.

He's there because the people voted for him. That's what democracy gets you.

Sure money can help buy votes but many of the banks would have preferred Romney. It's not like the banks unanimously swept him in under the rug.

Edit: Just to add you only have to listen and look at Obama to know that he's not a puppet, he's a narcissist and caught up in his own power. That was very apparent during his press conference the other day.

[jj-]

Perhaps, but they're also very strategic.

Probably they reached the point at which they feel untouchable, so caution is not so important. Their hatred and the power have overwhelmed their minds and other emotions.

[matt0611]

This woman is way too smart, and cunning to openly say something that threatening and arrogant. Is this a direct quote caught by the press/media, or second hand by someone who doesn't like her?

I've looked it up sometime before the election, its not a direct quote, I believe it was on a conference call or something. It comes second hand I believe.

But I really don't find it hard to believe that woman said something like this.

[thoughtomator]

So John Boehner is what is standing between us and tyranny? God help us.

Tyranny is already here. Boehner is what is standing between the present situation and the end of the pretense of representative government.

[Deborah K]

I did a quick search and it looks like this is heresay. That doesn't mean she didn't actually say it, but is it a fact if there is no evidence?

[Odin]

Tyranny is already here. Boehner is what is standing between the present situation and the end of the pretense of representative government.

Well the pretense will continue for a few reasons - 1.) Because tyranny is easier to implement under the pretense of representative government 2.) Because Boehner and Obama are buddies.

Boehner being arrested and thrown in prison or something would be hilarious, first because it would be a horrible mistake and people would wake up, second because the look on that idiot's face would be priceless.

[Deborah K]

He's there because the people voted for him. That's what democracy gets you.

Sure money can help buy votes but many of the banks would have preferred Romney. It's not like the banks unanimously swept him in under the rug.

Edit: Just to add you only have to listen and look at Obama to know that he's not a puppet, he's a narcissist and caught up in his own power. That was very apparent during his press conference the other day.

After the blatent cheating at the state delegations, and on the floor of the national delegation, as well as everything that has been learned and uncovered about diebold, you actually believe we still have an honest electoral process? That doesn't even include the money aspect of getting someone "selected". yeah...I'm cynical...

I think Obama is in there because tptb think he will collapse us into the new system they have set up for us. His supporters are a LOT more amenable to being controlled, than those who would support Romney (being that they are "clinging to their guns and religion").

[Odin]

After the blatent cheating at the state delegations, and on the floor of the national delegation, as well as everything that has been learned and uncovered about diebold, you actually believe we still have an honest electoral process? That doesn't even include the money aspect of getting someone "selected". yeah...I'm cynical...

I think Obama is in there because tptb think he will collapse us into the new system they have set up for us. His supporters are a LOT more amenable to being controlled, and those who would support Romney (being that they are "clinging to their guns and religion").

If the people had voted for Ron Paul there would be nothing they could do about it. I understand what you're saying and it is no doubt corrupt, but the people had the chance to see the candidates and do their research, they have the resources to find out if negative ads are true or false, they even have the resources to learn about whatever they want, in particular economics, and they choose not to. They are idiots, and that is the reason we are in this situation.

I understand the point about corruption but the truth is that they only have power because the people gave it to them. We shouldn't try to pretend that "the people" (so to speak) are the victims, they are in fact the perpetrators.

[Deborah K]

If the people had voted for Ron Paul there would be nothing they could do about it. I understand what you're saying and it is no doubt corrupt, but the people had the chance to see the candidates and do their research, they have the resources to find out if negative ads are true or false, they even have the resources to learn about whatever they want, in particular economics, and they choose not to. They are idiots, and that is the reason we are in this situation.

I understand the point about corruption but the truth is that they only have power because the people gave it to them. We shouldn't try to pretend that "the people" (so to speak) are the victims, they are in fact the perpetrators.

It's a little more complicated than that. One thing that has to be taken into consideration is that over the last 100 years, our society has been infiltrated and indoctrinated by socialistic philosophy. It's been done with the unions, the education system, the media, the press, and on and on. When you have 2 or 3 generations who are bombarded with socialistic idealism, you can't then turn around and blame them for not unplugging themselves from a matrix they are completely unaware of.

The only people who know to take the red pill are the ones who venture off the plantation. Human nature dictates that most will stay close to the herd and the shepard.

[Odin]

It's a little more complicated than that. One thing that has to be taken into consideration is that over the last 100 years, our society has been infiltrated and indoctrinated by socialistic philosophy. It's been done with the unions, the education system, the media, the press, and on and on. When you have 2 or 3 generations who are bombarded with socialistic idealism, you can't then turn around and blame them for not unplugging themselves from a matrix they are completely unaware of.

The only people who know to take the red pill are the ones who venture off the plantation. Human nature dictates that most will stay close to the herd and the shepard.

I don't see it as a wool being pulled over people's eyes, I think that people have the resources and ability to separate truth from falsity.

In truth, every person's thoughts, motives, beliefs, and personality is determined by external factors to that person. Even oppressive people are made that way, they do not choose to be like that. Hitler, for instance, did not choose to be a psychopathic murderer, he just WAS. If we view people in that way, we can't hold anyone morally accountable for their actions.

So yes the people did not choose to be ignorant, to lack curiosity and intellectual honesty, to vote against their self-interests and in the process deny those of us who are not ignorant and who are honest, our freedom, but that does not make them blameless.

From a practical point of view the people need to change.

[Deborah K]

I don't see it as a wool being pulled over people's eyes, I think that people have the resources and ability to separate truth from falsity.

In truth, every person's thoughts, motives, beliefs, and personality is determined by external factors to that person. Even oppressive people are made that way, they do not choose to be like that. Hitler, for instance, did not choose to be a psychopathic murderer, he just WAS. If we view people in that way, we can't hold anyone morally accountable for their actions.

So yes the people did not choose to be ignorant, to lack curiosity and intellectual honesty, to vote against their self-interests and in the process deny those of us who are not ignorant and who are honest, our freedom, but that does not make them blameless.

From a practical point of view the people need to change.

Changing the hearts and minds of America is what we do. ;) I see it as our responsibility (those of us who have ventured off the plantation) to inform the rest. And those we inform who choose to stick their heads in the sand will get what's coming, and so will we, if we don't take this responsibility seriously. I think anyone who hasn't prepared, informed, and networked at this juncture is pretty much screwed.