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Lucille
11-16-2012, 01:07 PM
She's already been setting it up:


Yet the Brewer administration is quietly designing an insurance exchange (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/us/like-it-or-not-states-prepare-for-health-law.html?_r=0) — one of the most essential and controversial requirements of the law.

With extension, Brewer postpones exchange decision
http://www.trivalleycentral.com/casa_grande_dispatch/arizona_news/with-extension-brewer-postpones-exchange-decision/article_266e4614-300c-11e2-aed7-0019bb2963f4.html


PHOENIX — Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is postponing when she’ll declare whether Arizona will create a state-run insurance exchange as part of implementing the federal health law that she opposes.

Brewer’s office disclosed the postponement on the hot-potato issue late Thursday after the federal Department of Health and Human Services extended until mid-December a deadline for states to make exchange declarations.

The deadline had been Friday, and that’s when Brewer had been planning to make her declaration.

“The governor remains committed to doing her due diligence about a decision of this importance, so she is hopeful that the federal government is going to provide the specific guidance and instruction we’ve been awaiting,” Brewer spokesman Matthew Benson said.

The exchange would serve as an online marketplace for consumers to purchase health coverage, which approximately 1.3 million people in Arizona lack.

An alternative to having the state create and run an exchange would be to step aside and allow the federal government to set up one for Arizona. Or she could propose a hybrid partnership between the two levels of government.

Business groups, hospitals and insurance companies have urged Brewer to create a state-run exchange [but of course (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?395838-Real-Danger-Of-%93Obamacare%94-Insurance-Company-Takeover-Of-Health-Care)], which would be subject to legislative approval. The Goldwater Institute and other conservatives say the state should not help implement the law.
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Creation of an exchange would be subject to legislative approval, and a Republican legislative leader said earlier Thursday he didn’t know how such a proposal would fare.

Senate Majority Leader Andy Biggs, who will become Senate president in January, said some GOP lawmakers oppose creating an exchange, others are cautiously skeptical and others are open to the idea.
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Sen. Frank Antenori, a Tucson Republican who will leave the Legislature in January because of his re-election defeat, said he believed Brewer would approve a state-run exchange but that the issue had her squirming.

“She’s conflicted, and deep in her heart she knows it’s the wrong thing to do, but she’s going to be pressed” by the business community to create an exchange, Antenori said. “She doesn’t want to be the one that gets the blame for not implementing the changes.”

angelatc
11-16-2012, 01:45 PM
She's probably a little gun-shy after losing the immigration battle so handily.

Lucille
11-16-2012, 02:05 PM
That statist cow vetoes everything good (http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/3118/jan-brewer#.UKaaf4cuhjY)!

The anti-NDAA bill, the bill allowing Arizonans to buy medical insurance across state lines, the bill allowing guns on public property, the state sovereignty bill, the bill reversing the incandescent bulb ban in AZ, and she has tried to kill med mj repeatedly.

After SB1070 passed, I saw so many conservatives calling for that dumb statist broad to be whoever's VP. The only thing they know about her is that she's "protecting us" from illegal Messican housekeepers and landscapers, and evidently, that's all they cared to know!

Lucille
11-16-2012, 02:35 PM
I sent her this today, but she won't care.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/11/16/hhs-extends-obamacare-health-insurance-e


If states actually want to preserve their flexibility, they should avoid building the exchanges at all. State-created exchanges would be subject to federal approval and oversight, giving the states few options for control, and leaving many crucial decisions up to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

As The Washington Examiner's Philip Klein recently pointed out, the text of the health law specifies that “the [HHS] Secretary shall, by regulation, establish criteria for the certification of health plans as qualified health plans," and also says that “an Exchange may not make available any health plan that is not a qualified health plan.”

"In other words," writes Klein, "Sebelius will get to decide what type of health care plans can be offered on these state exchanges." Sebelius will also get to make determinations about how health plans offered in the exchanges are rated, about language used to describe plan features, and about overall presentation of plan options. And federal rules will override conflicting state policies. ObamaCare states that “an Exchange may not establish rules that conflict with or prevent the application of regulations promulgated by the Secretary under this subtitle.” State control? Federal control? Either way, it's Washington's way.

States, meanwhile, would bear substantial costs if they chose to set up their own exchanges. Running an exchange could cost a state anywhere from $10 million to $100 million a year, according to the Cato Institute's Michael Cannon, and ObamaCare's legislative language indicates that businesses in states that opt out won't be subject to the law's employer health insurance mandate, a $2,000 annual per employee tax on many employers who don't provide qualifying insurance.

HHS wants to give states every opportunity to incur these costs themselves rather than leave the federal government to fund and manage those exchanges. So sure, it's attempting to create additional flexibility for implementing ObamaCare. But mostly for itself.

Feeding the Abscess
11-16-2012, 03:05 PM
Walker did the same thing. Fully expect that McDonnell will do the same, if he hasn't already.

supermario21
11-16-2012, 05:14 PM
John Kasich said no to Obamacare in Ohio. If Rand were to win the nomination for president I'd love for him to choose Kasich as a VP. He's a very reformist straight-shooter who sticks to his guns a la the Pauls. He might also be sympathetic to some of our causes. Here's a segment when he hosted O'Reilly sounding like a skeptic of the DEA and the drug war.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEr46utqJDQ

I'm also pretty sure that when he was in Congress, he was opposed to entanglements in Kossovo in the late 90s.

Lucille
11-19-2012, 01:02 PM
C4L email:


Governor Brewer: Champion of ObamaCare?

A very important ObamaCare deadline is quickly approaching, and we must act fast to keep our state from succumbing to the national health care scheme.

TODAY, November 16, states are expected to submit their plans for a Health Insurance Exchange, as called for under ObamaCare.

Governor Brewer may move forward TODAY on a state exchange!

Brewer's staff already took money to begin "Phase 1" of the ObamaCare exchange project.

Now Governor Brewer will decide whether to concede to the wishes of these unelected officials and complete the ObamaCare exchange for Arizona or to listen to the will of Arizona citizens.

The story goes that if she implements the exchanges they will be ‘free market’ exchanges, and that their implementation is a forgone conclusion now that Obama has won reelection.

That story is deceptive in at least two ways:

-- If ObamaCare exchanges are implemented in Arizona, it will not matter who actually created them; per federal law, all exchanges will be subject to the rules and regulations promulgated by the Obama administration.

-- The threat of having the federal government implement an exchange in Arizona is an empty one; the federal government has no funds allocated towards implementing exchanges, and any such funds would have to be approved by the Republican-controlled U.S. House of Representatives.

While the U.S. Supreme Court found the individual mandate to purchase insurance Constitutional – albeit reclassified as a tax – they also found that the federal government cannot force states to comply with federal mandates on the threat of losing existing federal funding.

The court said that, "the legitimacy of Congress's exercise of the spending power....rests on whether the State voluntarily and knowingly accepts the terms of the contract." (Emphasis added.) They went on to confirm that states have the right as independent sovereigns to refuse to act on federal mandates they do not like.

If a state simply refuses to accept federal mandates (and the associated “bribe” money) to implement ObamaCare Exchanges, as the court explicitly affirms is within its power, the entire law would collapse upon itself.

Over the last 2 years, Arizonans have rallied against the takeover of their health care.

The deadline is TODAY, November 16. We simply cannot afford to sit back and wait to see what the Governor will do.

Contact Governor Brewer RIGHT NOW and demand that she doesn’t “voluntarily and knowingly” succumb to the national takeover of your health care:

Phoenix Office: 602-542-4331
Tucson Office: 520-628-6580
Fax Number: 602-542-1381
In-State Toll Free: 800-253-0883 (outside of Maricopa County only)

Email: http://azgovernor.gov/Contact.asp

Insist that she protect Arizonans by refusing to build an insurance exchange as called for in ObamaCare.

It is the governor’s responsibility under the 10th Amendment to stand up to federal over-reach and assert state sovereignty.

Tell Governor Brewer you expect nothing less!

In Liberty,

Your Arizona Campaign for Liberty Team

P.S. Contact the governor today to let her know how you feel about her decision.

Phoenix Office: 602-542-4331
Tucson Office: 520-628-6580
Fax Number: 602-542-1381
In-State Toll Free: 800-253-0883 (outside of Maricopa County only)

http://azgovernor.gov/Contact.asp

Lucille
11-28-2012, 05:44 PM
Happily, I was wrong.

Arizona governor rejects state-based insurance exchange
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/269953-ariz-governor-rejects-insurance-exchange-under-obamas-health-law-


“This has been one of the more difficult decisions of my career in public service," Brewer said in a statement Wednesday, in which she said she had notified the Health and Human Services Department of her decision.

What was so bloody hard about it? Oh how I loathe that dumb statist broad.