AGRP
11-08-2012, 06:17 PM
Read this. The entire post reads like it was written by Herman Cain himself:
The arrogance here makes me laugh.
The people wholeheartedly rejected fiscal conservatives on Tuesday. That means Ron Paul's ideas. Romney was no fiscal conservative but he was far more than Obama was.
The Republican party is, and always has been, a party of coalition. We must bring together people who don't agree on everything and work on the issues we can solve together. What I see here on this board is some in the Ron Paul (who is done with politics btw) movement expecting to get elected by magical unicorns. The election proved that Paul was rejected by Independents, Republicans, and most of all Democrats. Now we're concocting some scheme to take over the nomination of the same party that some in the movement are actively rejecting! How is that expected to work? "Hey, we won't stand with you at all but you should come over here and support us." They'll reject us like we rejected them.
If the Paul movement breaks off the Republican party they're done. 100% not electable. We would get crushed by the two big parties.
Herman Cain didn't say "we don't need Ron Paul people" as so many here assume. He said that the Ron Paul movement wasn't the viable vehicle to a third party. The Paul movement is built on identity. If, god forbid, Ron Paul were to die that would be the end. He's calling for something bigger. He didn't say he won't accept Paul people, he said we need to form a BROADER coalition. To be honest I don't know how many in the Paul movement expect to become mainstream if they refuse to participate in coalitions. Why are Obama and the dems getting elected? They come together as a coalition first then have the fights over policy once they're in.
We're never getting anywhere if we refuse to elect anyone who doesn't agree with all of use 100%. To that end: we aren't 100% right, nobody is.
Thanks to Odin who pointed it out:
Are you Herman Cain?
The part I bolded sounds just like something Herman Cain would say lol. I actually read it in my Herman Cain voice.
I went through his other posts. They all sound like him. This one made me laugh:
Well, I've indentified the problem!
Step 1: Do not vote for the people you don't want to elect.
The arrogance here makes me laugh.
The people wholeheartedly rejected fiscal conservatives on Tuesday. That means Ron Paul's ideas. Romney was no fiscal conservative but he was far more than Obama was.
The Republican party is, and always has been, a party of coalition. We must bring together people who don't agree on everything and work on the issues we can solve together. What I see here on this board is some in the Ron Paul (who is done with politics btw) movement expecting to get elected by magical unicorns. The election proved that Paul was rejected by Independents, Republicans, and most of all Democrats. Now we're concocting some scheme to take over the nomination of the same party that some in the movement are actively rejecting! How is that expected to work? "Hey, we won't stand with you at all but you should come over here and support us." They'll reject us like we rejected them.
If the Paul movement breaks off the Republican party they're done. 100% not electable. We would get crushed by the two big parties.
Herman Cain didn't say "we don't need Ron Paul people" as so many here assume. He said that the Ron Paul movement wasn't the viable vehicle to a third party. The Paul movement is built on identity. If, god forbid, Ron Paul were to die that would be the end. He's calling for something bigger. He didn't say he won't accept Paul people, he said we need to form a BROADER coalition. To be honest I don't know how many in the Paul movement expect to become mainstream if they refuse to participate in coalitions. Why are Obama and the dems getting elected? They come together as a coalition first then have the fights over policy once they're in.
We're never getting anywhere if we refuse to elect anyone who doesn't agree with all of use 100%. To that end: we aren't 100% right, nobody is.
Thanks to Odin who pointed it out:
Are you Herman Cain?
The part I bolded sounds just like something Herman Cain would say lol. I actually read it in my Herman Cain voice.
I went through his other posts. They all sound like him. This one made me laugh:
Well, I've indentified the problem!
Step 1: Do not vote for the people you don't want to elect.