The fat one is toast

[itshappening]

cosying up to Obama will ensure Christie's re-election in New Jersey but he is finished on the national scene

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228924/U-S-presidential-election-2012-Chris-Christie-lashes-know-disgruntled-Romney-staffers.html

[thoughtomator]

and he was Romney's first pick for VP, too

[Sola_Fide]

I agree. I think 2016 is lost to him after this.

[belian78]

John McCain's most well known pieces of legislature were co-authored with Dems and Romney is the most liberal leaning republican I can think of. Tell me again how the GOP isn't 'full retard' enough to nominate him next go around.

[AuH20]

The Fat One is faced with the Giulani dliemma. He has no clear path to the nomination unless they change the order of the primary states. He's DOA in Iowa and NH.

[Sola_Fide]

John McCain's most well known pieces of legislature were co-authored with Dems and Romney is the most liberal leaning republican I can think of. Tell me again how the GOP isn't 'full retard' enough to nominate him next go around.

It will only happen if we force the retards to do something they wouldn't normally do.

[itshappening]

I doubt Christie can win in states like Iowa and South Carolina and his embrace of Obama days before the election won't be forgotten

[SilentBull]

I disagree. The people will think about him whatever the media tells them too. This will be forgotten. You'll see. Just like romneycare didn't matter. It should have disqualified Romney but it didn't.

[Bruno]

We ended up getting Romney when everyone was like "Anyone but Romney". I have little hope for the Republican optoisn the next four years. Rand will be a solid option, but only if the media allows him to be, which is unlikely. The ball will get passed to the candidate who plays best with the power brokers, not the one who wants to take them down.

[itshappening]

The media won't ignore Rand, he's an elected senator

The GOP establishment will run multiple candidates to split the vote and try and drown the field hoping one of them catches fire with the gullible people like Santorum did.

McCain, Romney, Santorum, Huckabee truly awful candidates from the last 2 cycles

[Henry Rogue]

The R-sheep will chant U-rah-rah for their R-team who ever it is.

[RockEnds]

Christie has no appeal outside of his own backyard. He's a rude, nasty person who lacks appeal nationwide.

[Valli6]

Wish this were true, but in 4 years they''ll have forgotten it and !f someone brings it up they won't care.
Privately, the GOP will be fine with a Hillary win.

[oyarde]

The Socialists out number the productive, the Republic is dead, every man for himself.

[AuH20]

The Socialists out number the productive, the Republic is dead, every man for himself.

Just clear the bulding before it falls. That's my advice.

[erowe1]

The person who I think will end up being the front runner if he runs and stands to get a fusion conservatives and establishment Republicans is Mike Pence.

[Sola_Fide]

I disagree. The people will think about him whatever the media tells them too. This will be forgotten. You'll see. Just like romneycare didn't matter. It should have disqualified Romney but it didn't.

I agree with the sentiment, but even the "conservative" talking heads on the news shows admitted they lost because Romney was a NE liberal Republican that didn't fire up the base. They know (in some ways) why they lost.

[Sola_Fide]

The person who I think will end up being the front runner if he runs and stands to get a fusion conservatives and establishment Republicans is Mike Pence.

I completely agree. I think Pence could be the dark horse of 2016. If I was Rand, I would have my eyes on Pence.

[ravedown]

well-limbaugh just basically endorsed rubio for 2016 on his show today stating his record and minority statue make him the perfect candidate. pretty good indicater of what fox news will run with so we may as get prepared now-they just layed out their playbook.

[AuH20]

well-limbaugh just basically endorsed rubio for 2016 on his show today stating his record and minority statue make him the perfect candidate. pretty good indicater of what fox news will run with so we may as get prepared now-they just layed out their playbook.

Of course. He got the prime speaking slot for a reason.

[itshappening]

Rubio has done nothing as a senator, he is too shallow. I would not worry about him too much

[AGRP]

What did he have for breakfast this morning? A Dunkin Doughnuts truck? His health is a danger to himself and others. He could have a heart attack while driving and kill someone or worse, share with the children. Its high time we call on the NJ state police department to lock him in a cage.

[Noob]

Glenn Beck is making fun of him and saying he is now dead to him on his radio show.

[erowe1]

Rubio has done nothing as a senator, he is too shallow. I would not worry about him too much

Being shallow won't necessarily hurt him.

If he gets the establishment anointing, which is at least within the realm of possibility, then that will give him a huge advantage that will be hard for anyone else to beat, no matter how little Rubio actually brings to the table mentally.

[cajuncocoa]

cosying up to Obama will ensure Christie's re-election in New Jersey but he is finished on the national scene

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228924/U-S-presidential-election-2012-Chris-Christie-lashes-know-disgruntled-Romney-staffers.htmlAm I the only one who sees the irony of RPF members claiming Christie is finished for cozying up to Obama, but Rand was "just playing politics" when he cozied up to Romney?

[CaptUSA]

I fully expect Christie to switch parties at some point in the future. I don't know how long it's going to take, but I believe it will happen.

And then all these republicans that showered so much praise on him will look foolish. And the democratic party will eat it all up! They got the keynote speaker supporting their party! Almost like Lieberman endorsing a neocon after being the VP candidate just a few years prior.

[CaptUSA]

Am I the only one who sees the irony of RPF members claiming Christie is finished for cozying up to Obama, but Rand was "just playing politics" when he cozied up to Romney?It wasn't the physical embrace, it is the embrace of Obama's policies. Rationing, ousting the free market when it is needed most, price controls... If he's a social democrat and now a fiscal democrat, he might as well switch parties already.

[cajuncocoa]

It wasn't the physical embrace, it is the embrace of Obama's policies. Rationing, ousting the free market when it is needed most, price controls... If he's a social democrat and now a fiscal democrat, he might as well switch parties already.That's par for the course whenever a disastrous hurricane strikes.

[CaptUSA]

That's par for the course whenever a disastrous hurricane strikes.If he was really a badass, he would have said, "FEMA stay away from my state! Let it be known that here in NJ, you can charge whatever people are willing to pay for gas! If you can get it here, you can charge whatever you want!" Shortage would have been OVER.

[juleswin]

I disagree. The people will think about him whatever the media tells them too. This will be forgotten. You'll see. Just like romneycare didn't matter. It should have disqualified Romney but it didn't.

We have a winner here. It doesnt matter what the base wants, there's enough talking heads out there to bend the want into the wants of the establishment. How else do you think they nominated the liberal from Massachusetts? This is not a conspiracy about mind control, its just plain ole power of persuasion and the flock will fall for it all the time.

[erowe1]

Am I the only one who sees the irony of RPF members claiming Christie is finished for cozying up to Obama, but Rand was "just playing politics" when he cozied up to Romney?

Uh, yes. Because Christie was cozying up to the opponent of his party's candidate and Rand was cozying up to his party's candidate.

[Shane Harris]

I agree. I think 2016 is lost to him after this.

No one will remember this. If Romney could win this year with all of his baggage, all bets are off. The GOP voters are retarded. Just look at all the skeletons in closets that were totally ignored by voters last year. Newt's affairs, Santorum endorsing Arlen Specter, amongst other things, Mitt's mormonism and romneycare. All these things should've disqualified them but nobody cared. This thing with Christie is even less important and no one will care or remember in 4 years, guaranteed.

[cajuncocoa]

Uh, yes. Because Christie was cozying up to the opponent of his party's candidate and Rand was cozying up to his party's candidate.LOL...ah, yes. Partisan party politics. In reality, both Christie and Rand cozied up to people who they don't see eye-to-eye with politically.

[cajuncocoa]

If he was really a badass, he would have said, "FEMA stay away from my state! Let it be known that here in NJ, you can charge whatever people are willing to pay for gas! If you can get it here, you can charge whatever you want!" Shortage would have been OVER. Sure, but Christie is no libertarian....neither are most of the people in NJ, I suspect.

[kathy88]

This is absolutely ridiculous, and a real indicator of how insane American politics are. Just because Christie chose to handle a state emergency and discontinue campaigning for Mittens and said a couple nice things about a sitting President about how he handled a semi-national disaster his career is in the toilet for conservatives. What a bunch of tit whining babies. My estimation of Christie after this went from "he makes want to puke" to "I get a little nauseous thinking about him." He deserves flack for his shitty policies, not for the recent non events.

[Sola_Fide]

No one will remember this. If Romney could win this year with all of his baggage, all bets are off. The GOP voters are retarded. Just look at all the skeletons in closets that were totally ignored by voters last year. Newt's affairs, Santorum endorsing Arlen Specter, amongst other things, Mitt's mormonism and romneycare. All these things should've disqualified them but nobody cared. This thing with Christie is even less important and no one will care or remember in 4 years, guaranteed.

Yeah, I see what you are saying.

My take on it is: These Glenn Beck/Levin-type conservatives never got the choice they were looking for. Ron (and Rand) were so adept at exposing the fake conservatism of Newt, Cain, and Santorum, that none of them could ever gain any traction, and even though Mitt was the default choice, there was no enthusiasm in the end.

Rand is not going to suffer from the smear attacks of Beck/Levin etc. He will get their hearty endrosement I think. Christie is not going to get the hearty endorsement of the Beck/Levin types. You're right that Rubio and Christie are going to be default establishment alternatives...and they are going to be real threats. But with Rand, we have a REAL fiscal conservative that the Tea-o-Cons can really get behind.

[TomtheTinker]

Dont fool yourself...Chris christie is a front runner for 2016.

[maskander]

Why call him the fat one, I think he's kinda cute.

[CaptUSA]

My estimation of Christie after this went from "he makes want to puke" to "I get a little nauseous thinking about him." He deserves flack for his shitty policies, not for the recent non events.Oh, I couldn't disagree more. Sorry, Kathy.

I see the people suffering in his state. They are already suffering from a storm, but now they have to suffer from shitty policies as well? It's killing me. And all the while, he's trying to look like he's helping things?! Like I said, I don't care that he embraced Obama, but he threw out the free market when it was needed the most - that is unforgivable to me.

[Nirvikalpa]

This is absolutely ridiculous, and a real indicator of how insane American politics are. Just because Christie chose to handle a state emergency and discontinue campaigning for Mittens and said a couple nice things about a sitting President about how he handled a semi-national disaster his career is in the toilet for conservatives. What a bunch of tit whining babies. My estimation of Christie after this went from "he makes want to puke" to "I get a little nauseous thinking about him." He deserves flack for his shitty policies, not for the recent non events.

I agree 100% with this.

And the ad-hominem attacks are getting really, really old.

[erowe1]

LOL...ah, yes. Partisan party politics. In reality, both Christie and Rand cozied up to people who they don't see eye-to-eye with politically.

Well, yeah, politics is the topic. Christie's cozying up to Obama is politically damaging. That was the point.

[erowe1]

This is absolutely ridiculous, and a real indicator of how insane American politics are. Just because Christie chose to handle a state emergency and discontinue campaigning for Mittens and said a couple nice things about a sitting President about how he handled a semi-national disaster his career is in the toilet for conservatives. What a bunch of tit whining babies. My estimation of Christie after this went from "he makes want to puke" to "I get a little nauseous thinking about him." He deserves flack for his shitty policies, not for the recent non events.

In essence he was campaigning for Obama and clearly and knowingly helped him win the election. The GOP should treat him the same as if he outright endorsed him.

[RockEnds]

I don't see Christie's path to winning at all. He won't do anything in Iowa for the same reason Rudy got trounced here. He lacks civility (thinks he's big, tough stuff). That leaves NH, SC, and FL. He might do okay in NH. I doubt SC will take to him at all. If Rubio runs, FL is his. How is there any room for Christie?

[cajuncocoa]

Well, yeah, politics is the topic. Christie's cozying up to Obama is politically damaging. That was the point.Partisan party politics.

[erowe1]

Partisan party politics.

Yeah? Was that not clear?

[AGRP]

The fat one ate the toast.

[kathy88]

In essence he was campaigning for Obama and clearly and knowingly helped him win the election. The GOP should treat him the same as if he outright endorsed him.

Right. Chris Christie lost this one for the Republicans. Please.