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Jeremy Tyler
11-06-2012, 11:20 PM
I'm seeing a flood of "told you" pictures, meme's, and just words from Ron Paul supporters on FB. And I'm loving it!
No1butPaul
11-06-2012, 11:21 PM
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I'm seeing a flood of "told you" pictures, meme's, and just words from Ron Paul supporters on FB. And I'm loving it!. Please post here!
Natural Citizen
11-06-2012, 11:33 PM
More practical to see a flood of disenfranchised Republicans asking "What If".
Seriously. Folks would do well to help make that so instead of rubbing it in. Only because...well...you're really only rubbing in the same shit you're covered in too. Current demographic all but ignores any future right wing speak by default and it's a growing populace.
Crystallas
11-06-2012, 11:45 PM
I don't use privacy-theft...erm, Facebook. Please post the good pics, regardless of where you found them :)
acptulsa
11-06-2012, 11:48 PM
Want to do this movement a favor? Knock off the 'told ya' and replace it with a pair of pics side by side--Romney with the legend 'UNELECTABLE' and Ron Paul with the legend 'ELECTABLE'.
RickyJ
11-06-2012, 11:50 PM
I could do it, but I won't since I know many of my friends on facebook were heavily emotionally invested in Romney winning even though I tried to tell them he was no different than Obama, they believed their talking heads they listen to over me. And I hate to admit it, for some they just plain hated Obama and didn't care who replaced him, they just wanted him out. So now is not the time to say I told you so while they are still in shock. I will just keep pushing the issues instead, and hopefully they will come around.
Natural Citizen
11-06-2012, 11:50 PM
Here's a nice Roasted Turkey recipe. I don't like participating in silly squabble but sent it to a couple of my die hard neocon friends. Thanksgiving is coming up so....
http://www.olsouthrecipes.com/turkey.html has a nice picture of the finished bird.
Warrior_of_Freedom
11-06-2012, 11:52 PM
This is just stupid. I don't care about being able to say "Told ya" The fact is we're getting the same shit. People chose between the Mysterious Taco and Rocky Mountain Oysters.
acptulsa
11-06-2012, 11:56 PM
This is just stupid. I don't care about being able to say "Told ya" The fact is we're getting the same shit. People chose between the Mysterious Taco and Rocky Mountain Oysters.
This. We won nothing. The nation won nothing.
Either we run with a useful meme like Romney, hand picked by Fox, UNELECTABLE and Ron Paul, lied about by Fox, ELECTABLE, or we gain nothing we can use to save this nation.
sailingaway
11-06-2012, 11:56 PM
Want to do this movement a favor? Knock off the 'told ya' and replace it with a pair of pics side by side--Romney with the legend 'UNELECTABLE' and Ron Paul with the legend 'ELECTABLE'.
nice.
NoOneButPaul
11-06-2012, 11:59 PM
More practical to see a flood of disenfranchised Republicans asking "What If".
Seriously. Folks would do well to help make that so instead of rubbing it in. Only because...well...you're really only rubbing in the same shit you're covered in too. Current demographic all but ignores any future right wing speak by default and it's a growing populace.
Tomorrow is the day for what ifs....
Tonight is all about I told ya...
kathy88
11-07-2012, 12:02 AM
We did win though. We proved to the GOP they need our votes. That's step one.
Warrior_of_Freedom
11-07-2012, 12:03 AM
no, no we didn't, because the national GOP and DEM are the same fucking shit. They win no matter what, we lose. We lost the second Paul lost the primary. They're all friends up there, on the top of the mountain.
puppetmaster
11-07-2012, 12:04 AM
This. We won nothing. The nation won nothing.
Either we run with a useful meme like Romney, hand picked by Fox, UNELECTABLE and Ron Paul, lied about by Fox, ELECTABLE, or we gain nothing we can use to save this nation.
except we did win a chance in four years.......long term planning is key
We did win though. We proved to the GOP they need our votes. That's step one.
Bingo.
They're eventually going to try to scape goat us. Forget that, let's get out in front of them: we warned them. They told us we didn't matter, or that we'd vote for Romney anyway. We warned them again. They cheated us, lied to us, berated us.
TOLD YOU SO.
Warrior_of_Freedom
11-07-2012, 12:53 AM
hey you guys can wait 4 years and try again to win the rigged elections, I'm moving out. America's been cheating on me. She's a whore.
We did win though. We proved to the GOP they need our votes. That's step one.
Yes and no. Gary Johnson and Ron Paul Write-Ins will roughly finish with 1% of the vote. Romney lost by about 1% of the vote, so that bodes well for us. On the other hand, neither Johnson nor the write-ins made a big enough dent to become a major story. Had they been 3% or more of the vote, then it would have mattered.
sailingaway
11-07-2012, 12:58 AM
Yes and no. Gary Johnson and Ron Paul Write-Ins will roughly finish with 1% of the vote. Romney lost by about 1% of the vote, so that bodes well for us. On the other hand, neither Johnson nor the write-ins made a big enough dent to become a major story. Had they been 3% or more of the vote, then it would have mattered.
Ron had more support than that and they know it.
Ron had more support than that and they know it.
It would be unbelievably opportunistic to have a national pollster conduct a poll this very week of Ron Paul vs. Obama. It would be awesome and potentially game-changing.
cocrehamster
11-07-2012, 01:04 AM
Yes and no. Gary Johnson and Ron Paul Write-Ins will roughly finish with 1% of the vote. Romney lost by about 1% of the vote, so that bodes well for us. On the other hand, neither Johnson nor the write-ins made a big enough dent to become a major story. Had they been 3% or more of the vote, then it would have mattered.
That would have been a story tonight, but you could also look at Rons vote during the primary in various states. Some Paul supporters may have voted Romney, but none that I know, and I doubt a large % overall.
Sentinelrv
11-07-2012, 01:08 AM
Post some here please. I don't see any and want to post one.
Justinfrom1776
11-07-2012, 01:10 AM
I like this one.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/21262_544814205535265_1588919122_n.jpg
Lucille
11-07-2012, 01:51 AM
Via Lew (http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/125543.html):
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/3464_10151512265944251_565794963_n.jpg
___j___
11-18-2012, 09:12 PM
Gary Johnson and Ron Paul Write-Ins will roughly finish with 1% of the vote.
Ron had more support than that and they know it.
Well, since Gary only got 1M votes in the general election, and Ron Paul got 2M in the repub primary, clearly anybody paying attention ought to 'know' that the liberty-movement has more support than the election-night returns might suggest. But do we have any specific numbers, in terms of exit-polls asking for a second choice, or statewide random-sample polling asking if you voted, and either way asking who your first/second/third choices would have been, to show *exactly* how much support we have, at the present moment?
p.s. My hope was that repubs in California would figure out that Obama was going to win all the electoral college votes from their state no matter what they did, and therefore vote Ron Paul (certified write-in there) and/or Gary Johnson (on the ballot) and/or Virgil Goode and/or James Madison, to send a message. There are 5m repubs in CA alone, after all, and the lesser-weevil rule simply does not apply to CA repubs in their presidential vote-picks. Ron Paul got 10% of the votes in the repub primary aka 200k people. Instead, 97% of california repubs (those that bothered to vote anyways) confirmed Mitt as their champion. Gary Johnson got 125k aka 1% of california repubs, and Hoefling got 33k... but even added together those numbers are lower than Ron Paul's showing in the primary.
http://co.humboldt.ca.us/election/results/2012/1106-ElectionNightFinalReport.pdf
Out of 17116 repub-leaning voters in Humboldt county CA, better than 9 out of 10 voted for Mitt ... even though the math behind the lesser-weevil rule is totally INAPPLICABLE to that particular race in that particular geographical location (because Obama was gonna win 100% of the electoral-college-votes from CA no matter what California repubs did). Election-clerks at the polls in that county were also lazy with the write-in ballots, marking over 50% of the 163 mail-in-write-in ballots as 'unresolved' and then going even further and marking literally 100% of the 231 write-in vote that were cast on polling-day as 'unresolved' also. Possibly they will get around to doing the work required to tabulate the write-in votes at some point, but I'm not holding my breath. Of the write-in votes which *were* counted, the Paul/Napolitano ticket got 86% of the voters. (If we apply that same percentage to the ballots that were marked by election-clerks as overvotes-aka-doublevotes and the undervotes-aka-blanks for the presidential race, then perhaps Ron Paul would have garnered 600 votes in Humboldt county, compared to 685 votes for Gary Johnson. More conservatively, I estimate that Ron Paul likely received ~300 votes, and almost certainly got 200. Of course, as of right now Humboldt county is 'officially' only giving him 67 votes... sigh.) Adding up all the potential liberty-voters, Gary + Ron + Hoefling + Virgil + Abstain + Unresolved, and extrapolating, we might have won 3% of the nationwide popvote.
But the key point is not that some set of liberty-candidates got about 3% of the votes cast in California on 6th Nov 2012, but rather than The Party Romineey managed to get way better than 9 out of 10 repub-leaning voters that bothered to visit polling-places this year. Even more importantly, using data from 2004 and 2008 for making some assumptions about how many repub-leaning-voters live in CA, by my calculations ~1.2 million California repubs stayed home -- or perhaps voted for Obama since they saw him as the lesser of the weevils when compared to Mitt. (Nationwide I'm getting that perhaps 4 or 5 millions repubs stayed home... which means 25% of the disgusted lived *just* in California.) If those repub-leaning folks had been too disgusted to vote for Mitt, they could have voted for Gary Johnson or for Ron Paul, easily doubling the nationwide liberty-vote-count from 1m general election votes up to 2m. Truth be told, I'm absolutely positively certain that the 4.5-4.7 million repubs that overcame inertia and drug themselves to the polling-place were *not* in fact 95% composed of Romney fans. They just voted for Mitt because they didn't understand that, for a California repub, the only (useful) point of a presidential-vote is to SEND A MESSAGE forward into the future, about what sort of repub prez nominee you would like to see. Voting for somebody besides Mitt would prolly hurt his feelings, but it certainly wouldn't cost him anything tangible -- every one of the ecVotes from CA is already locked up for Obama.
Anyways, until repubs in California (and IL NY HI DC et cetera) fully grok this fact, we'll continue to see the average repub voter follow the crowd, or stay home in disgust. Exit polls and statewide-random-polls would give us a better idea of how many of the million that stayed home, or the four million that followed the repub herd and voted for Mitt, would *actually* have voted for a liberty-nominee, if they thought they had a viable choice. When 2016 rolls around, if we don't manage to get a liberty-candidate as the official repub nominee, I want to have educated a large subset of repub-voters in heavily-dem-states that they are free to vote for the liberty-candidate anyways, at no cost to themselves or their party. (Swing-state voters do not have the same luxury.) While we're at it, we ought to reach out to dem-leaning voters in heavily repub states, and tell them they are free to vote for the libertarian ticket, or for the liberty-repub-not-quite-nominee, to send a message.
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