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emazur
11-05-2012, 07:04 PM
watch live:
http://rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/
other options:
http://freeandequal.org/updates/free-and-equal-elections-foundation-hosts-the-final-presidential-debate-tonight/

Smart3
11-05-2012, 07:30 PM
Is it still 9EST even with the time change?

-edit- yup

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 07:31 PM
on in 30min.

tttppp
11-05-2012, 07:48 PM
Its rediculous Johnson wasn't in the real debates and that's why I may vote for him.

Maximilian American
11-05-2012, 08:09 PM
on now on rt america utubue channel http://www.youtube.com/rtamerica

Maximilian American
11-05-2012, 08:10 PM
on now on rt america utubue channel http://www.youtube.com/rtamerica

KCIndy
11-05-2012, 08:15 PM
Great. And here I am in a motel with laughable 14kb/s wifi.

Someone post a quick summary when it's over, please! :(

BlackJack
11-05-2012, 08:20 PM
Gonna wait until its fully recorded so I can watch all of it.

DrHendricks
11-05-2012, 08:21 PM
I think I just heard from Jill that the New Deal was solely responsible for getting us out of the Great Depression... Ughhh

pochy1776
11-05-2012, 08:22 PM
Jill Stein is an idiot. She uses keynesian fallacies as well as the Deregulation is bad argument. And thinks that the answer to all our problems is the state

Gary Johnson is no ron paul. He sould have punched jill stein by saying our system is crony not real capitalism

nasaal
11-05-2012, 08:26 PM
Jill Stein is an idiot. She uses keynesian fallacies as well as the Deregulation is bad argument. And thinks that the answer to all our problems is the state

Gary Johnson is no ron paul. He sould have punched jill stein by saying our system is crony not real capitalism

He did call it crony capitalism. He said it's alive and well.

nasaal
11-05-2012, 08:27 PM
State banks? At least the distinction between these two parties are being drawn.

DrHendricks
11-05-2012, 08:28 PM
Jill Stein is an idiot. She uses keynesian fallacies as well as the Deregulation is bad argument. And thinks that the answer to all our problems is the state

Gary Johnson is no ron paul. He sould have punched jill stein by saying our system is crony not real capitalism

I agree he should have fired back harder on her craziness but in his defense, his first answer called our current economy crony capitalism.

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 08:31 PM
Golden rule?

BooooOO!!!!!!

nasaal
11-05-2012, 08:32 PM
Golden rule?

BooooOO!!!!!!

If he had said it in front of that crowd in this concise a manner he'd have been dragged off the stage.

nasaal
11-05-2012, 08:33 PM
He's taking some Ron Paul lines. I like it.

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 08:33 PM
Another RP line

"Taking poor people from this country to give to rich people in poor countries."

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 08:35 PM
blowing up and building bridges overseas while our bridges are falling down over here (paraphrase)

nasaal
11-05-2012, 08:35 PM
Another RP line

"Taking poor people from this country to give to rich people in poor countries."

And I ain't mad at him for it. It's a good line that gets the point across in a very good way.

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 08:41 PM
The best way to get rid of our nukes is to use them. Turn the ME into a glass parking lot

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 08:42 PM
Stein sounds like an idiot everytime she says, "climate change".
now every change the earth has is a federal government issue.

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 08:42 PM
Oh FFS. Like we never had a hurricane hit the US?

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 08:43 PM
climate change, what happened to global warming? what happened to the oncoming ice age?
if I was gary, i'd start with the history of these environmental fear mongering that always turned out to be BS.

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 08:43 PM
Oh FFS. Like we never had a hurricane hit the US?

climate change!
huricane proves it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 08:44 PM
She has no explanation for why the Pacific is cooling? Perhaps its a cycle.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP9v34iarC8&feature=player_embedded

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 08:44 PM
She has no explanation for why the Pacific is cooling? Perhaps its a cycle.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP9v34iarC8&feature=player_embedded

Climate Change. covers temps going up or down.
that is why its not called global warming anymore.

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 08:45 PM
Stein will fix the problem of climate change.
wow.

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 08:46 PM
good economy brings good environment

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 08:46 PM
A good environment comes from a respect for property rights.

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 08:48 PM
Johnson hits the anti-price gougers!

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 08:50 PM
Oh no? What did we do before FEMA? I guess America was in ruins after the 200 years of natural disasters we experienced before FEMA. Oh wait, there weren't any natural disasters because there was no climate change.

Tod
11-05-2012, 08:51 PM
Gary is really working hard to get the Paul voters!

pochy1776
11-05-2012, 08:55 PM
Damn, Gary Is being Awesome. Why can't Gary Be this during the republican primary.

nasaal
11-05-2012, 08:56 PM
The internet as a public service? For real?

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 08:56 PM
When the fuck did the internet become a public good? WTF?

nasaal
11-05-2012, 08:56 PM
Damn, Gary Is being Awesome. Why can't Gary Be this during the republican primary.

He had no ability to stay awake between the hours of being ignored.

brandon
11-05-2012, 08:57 PM
I'm really impressed with Johnson so far. Stein talks way too much and rambles on.

nasaal
11-05-2012, 08:57 PM
Wow she took like 2 minutes saying her thing, he smashed it in like 20 seconds without being snoddy or rude about it.

nasaal
11-05-2012, 09:05 PM
She is simply incapable of making her points in a fluid manner. She rambles and never seems to get to where she's trying to go. She reminds me of Obama in the first debate. Seems like she's trying to get to a punchline, never hits it.

Tod
11-05-2012, 09:06 PM
Damn, Gary Is being Awesome. Why can't Gary Be this during the republican primary.

Because Paul was doing the talking. About all he could say on a lot of topics (but not on all, unfortunately) is, "What HE said!"

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 09:07 PM
Good point by GJ- biggest problem with police in US is the drug war.

Tod
11-05-2012, 09:07 PM
She is simply incapable of making her points in a fluid manner. She rambles and never seems to get to where she's trying to go. She reminds me of Obama in the first debate. Seems like she's trying to get to a punchline, never hits it.

Yes, she is very difficult to listen to.

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 09:07 PM
Good point by GJ- biggest problem with police in US is the drug war.

+1 true.

asurfaholic
11-05-2012, 09:10 PM
im going to watch this closely, and I may be convinced to let gary have my vote tomorrow....we will see, and explore this with an open mind...

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 09:13 PM
what makes Stein any different than Obama and Romney?

seyferjm
11-05-2012, 09:15 PM
WTF is weatherizing?!

Todd
11-05-2012, 09:15 PM
Jill Stein is Aggravating!! My wife says she's getting on her nerves. Says "I think Jill Stein likes to hear her own voice".

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 09:15 PM
WTF is weatherizing?!

digging holes, and then filling them up.

Todd
11-05-2012, 09:16 PM
what makes Stein any different than Obama and Romney?

She is honest about what she will actually do when POTUS. She's just wrong. The others blow in the wind.

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 09:16 PM
nothing is free.
we have to live within our means, so does our government.

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 09:17 PM
GJ is on fire.

nasaal
11-05-2012, 09:17 PM
what makes Stein any different than Obama and Romney?

She believes in using Government in a way she deems responsible and refuses to alow government to be bought by special interests. Simply put she is a progressive ideologue. Gary Johnson seems to be somewhat a moderate which will make him seem very approachable to more people. He is smashing right now DAMNNNNN.

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 09:17 PM
She is honest about what she will actually do when POTUS. She's just wrong. The others blow in the wind.

She is an Obama that means what she says?
She still wants big government tyranny...

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 09:18 PM
she constantly uses Marxist Conflict theory.
he should point that out.

FrancisMarion
11-05-2012, 09:18 PM
Thats Bologna!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-d1IlpXgrkMU/TasPK-2IcFI/AAAAAAAAAZA/OAnPUZld5Tk/s1600/oscar_meyer_bologna.jpg

hahaha.:D

ronpaulfollower999
11-05-2012, 09:19 PM
This woman is in lala land.

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 09:19 PM
Thats Bologna!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-d1IlpXgrkMU/TasPK-2IcFI/AAAAAAAAAZA/OAnPUZld5Tk/s1600/oscar_meyer_bologna.jpg

hahaha.:D

he should have called it what it is... bullshit.

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 09:19 PM
This woman is in lala land.

she will enslave doctors to give "free" health care to everyone.

nasaal
11-05-2012, 09:20 PM
she constantly uses Marxist Conflict theory.
he should point that out.

He's trying to speak in a way that people at home understand exactly what he is saying.

Todd
11-05-2012, 09:20 PM
She is an Obama that means what she says?
She still wants big government tyranny...

Yes...but Obama is a liar. I believe every word this woman says. The honest Devil is front of me is better than one who obfuscates behind my back.

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 09:22 PM
He's trying to speak in a way that people at home understand exactly what he is saying.

i guess.
but i like that Ron talks about topics you then have to go look up.
we should be talking about marxist conflict theory so people can understand what it is and why its not a liberty thought, in fact, is used to enslave entire countries to a ruling class.

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 09:23 PM
Yes...but Obama is a liar. I believe every word this woman says. The honest Devil is front of me is better than one who obfuscates behind my back.

I believe her, and I'm still trying to figure out how an intelligent monkey can think these thoughts are logical.

Todd
11-05-2012, 09:23 PM
Shes guaranteeing she will end climate change. Lol. Good luck dear.

torchbearer
11-05-2012, 09:24 PM
Shes guaranteeing she will end climate change. Lol. Good luck dear.

not only that-
Everyone will have awesome health care, no one will want for anything, don't work, don't worry. everything will be provided to you by Ms. Stein.. because she is mofo god.

rajibo
11-05-2012, 09:25 PM
I already had every intention of voting for Gary Johnson tomorrow, but for the past hour and a half I couldn't get this damn song out of my head:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FFTQRmsK0k

Shane Harris
11-05-2012, 09:37 PM
Well this makes me more pleased with my vote for Johnson. Hope he breaks 5% in some states!

presence
11-05-2012, 09:43 PM
Third-Party Debate as seen Live on RT America


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4HJBE62IzI

FrancisMarion
11-05-2012, 09:53 PM
Dr. John had a great spoon and shovel analogy. 1:17:20

VIDEODROME
11-05-2012, 10:04 PM
Damn, Gary Is being Awesome. Why can't Gary Be this during the republican primary.

It's awkward being stuck in NeoCon land being on Fox News moderated debates and also attached to the GoP.

Mostly though it seemed like both Gary and Paul were treated similarly. The topic would be on Foreign Policy which they waiting to jump all over, then so many times at their turn the topic would change. It was to the point when moderator John King finally got booed by the audience for that shit.

Libertytree
11-05-2012, 10:47 PM
I was ready to vote for GJ, not knowing 100% if my vote for writing in Ron Paul would count or not here in Fl. Then today I ran across this and I knew that no matter what I am going to write in Ron Paul as I had originally planned. Kind of blind sided me but at least I know now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IEbmXDFywY4

VIDEODROME
11-05-2012, 11:24 PM
OMG Gary Johnson must be in league with Ben Bernanke. It's all a ruse!

Feeding the Abscess
11-06-2012, 01:58 AM
Good point by GJ- biggest problem with police in US is the drug war.

And that's why the democrats will never support ending the drug war - there'd be less need for cops, and the democratic party will never do anything that jeopardizes union power.