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Anti Federalist
11-02-2012, 12:47 PM
Never Call the Cops lesson #3971

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Man finds his rental home torn up and meth inside.

Calls cops to report it, like a good little citizen.

Cops end up arresting him instead.





Clayton landlord arrested after discovering meth in rental home

Updated: 4:46 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 1, 2012 | Posted: 3:52 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 1, 2012

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/clayton-landlord-arrested-after-discovering-meth-i/nStTw/

By Christopher Seward

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

A landlord and his wife were still reeling Thursday from spending two days in the Clayton County Jail this week after reporting to police that they had found bags of methamphetamine in their rental property.

“I’m still in disbelief,” Michael Keeley told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Keeley and his new bride, Channel, are free on $5,000 bond each after being charged with tampering with drug evidence recovered Sunday from their rental home in Rex.

The incident was first reported by Channel 2 Action News. Efforts were being made Thursday to get more information from Clayton police on the arrests.

When contacted by the AJC, a Clayton police spokeswoman said it was a federal case, despite the state charge. Federal authorities, however, said they were not involved in the arrests.

Keeley, of Lithonia, said he, his wife and their 9-year-old son had just arrived at the home around 9 a.m. Sunday when they noticed the back door open, a window broken and the home vandalized. When they went into a bathroom, they noticed holes in the wall and the vanity mirror removed.

Keeley said he looked closer and noticed eight bags in the wall, which Clayton police narcotics officers later identified as meth.

Earlier on Oct. 2, agents with federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Homeland Security, and Clayton police arrested three tenants who lived at the home after meth was found inside a vehicle two of them were riding in, Keeley said.

At the time, the landlord said he provided an ICE agent with information the tenants had provided on their rental applications. After the home was searched for drugs following the arrests, the home was turned back over to Keeley, who returned around 9 a.m. Sunday with his wife and child to clean it up and ready it for the next tenant.

Keeley said that when he found the bags of meth in the bathroom wall, he took them out and left them. He then immediately called the ICE agent he’d spoken to earlier. “He said, ‘I’m on my way and call 911,’” Keeley recalled Thursday. After calling 911, Keeley said he and his wife briefly left the residence.

“We didn’t feel safe in the house,” the landlord said. “We didn’t know if they [intruders] were still there. We didn’t know if someone was in the attic.”

When he returned to the home a second time Sunday around 10 a.m., Clayton police had already arrived and the ICE agent arrived around 10 minutes later.

“I showed them where the back door was open, I showed them where the window was broken out. Then I walked down the hall [to the bathroom] and showed them where the drugs were,” Keeley said.

Keeley said that when the ICE agent eventually left, “the whole atmosphere changed.”

He said the Clayton officers began intensely interrogating him and his wife and questioning him about calls he’d made that morning, many of which Keeley said he’d made trying to reach the ICE agent.

“’Who is this person you called? Who is this person you called?” Keeley said the officers demanded to know until they “snatched my phone.”

Keeley said one agent told him, “OK, come on, guy. Tell the truth. We know no one broke into your house. You did it yourself.” Keeley said he couldn’t tell whether he was also being accused of having the drugs there.

Keeley said his wife was interrogated in the kitchen while he was questioned in another part of the home. Meanwhile, their son was outside in a vehicle crying. Keeley said that when his wife was allowed to console the child, a narcotics officer threatened to put the child in protective services if someone did not come to get him. A neighbor kept the child until relatives arrived, Keeley said.

The couple was taken to Clayton County Jail, where they remained until posting bond Tuesday morning.

Keeley said police still have his and his wife’s cellphones. He was able to remotely retrieve a voicemail from the ICE agent, who had been at the home earlier.

“He was apologetic. He said he did not authorize, he did not know, he had no knowledge that they were targeting us for arrest,” Keeley said. “He thanked me for being a help to them in the past.”

(Yeah, some consolation. - AF)

Keeley said he still has not been given a date for a court appearance before a Clayton magistrate.

When contacted Thursday, a Clayton County police spokeswoman would only say that the case was being investigated by ICE, and not Clayton police, even though the evidence tampering charge was state and not federal.

Vinnie Picard, an ICE spokesman, however, told the AJC on Thursday that ICE and Homeland Security were not involved in Sunday’s arrest. “Mr. Keeley and his wife were not arrested on federal charges,” Picard said.

The entire experience has left Keeley disillusioned.

“I feel that we were violated because we put our trust in you [police] to protect us and you turned it against us,” Keeley told Channel 2, adding he will be “forever reluctant to pick up the phone and dial the police again.”

AFPVet
11-02-2012, 01:07 PM
Always invoke your right to remain silent and right to counsel. Say nothing more than this. Don't talk to law enforcement.

phill4paul
11-02-2012, 01:09 PM
Always invoke your right to remain silent and right to counsel. Say nothing more than this. Don't talk to law enforcement.

And don't call 911..

aGameOfThrones
11-02-2012, 01:11 PM
Lieutenant Dogood of the Clayton police Office says, “I don’t know if we broke the law, obviously our legal people have to explain that to us.”

Reporter Brett Buffington asks, “You did Falsely Arrest the family with no Justification, though.”

Lieutenant Dogood says, “We Arrested a Family with Justification. We did arrest the wrong People.”

Reporter Brett Buffington again asks, “You did Falsely Arrest a Family with no Justification.”

Lieutenant Dogood says, “We Arrested a Family, we did go there with Justification, and we did Arrest the wrong People.”

Reporter Brett Buffington says, “You Falsely Arrested the family with no Justification, you didn’t have Justification to Arrest them.”

Lieutenant Dogood says, “That is true, that is true, that is true.” (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?392935-GA-Cops-terrorize-family-at-gun-point-tear-house-apart.-Wrong-house.)

alucard13mmfmj
11-02-2012, 01:13 PM
Well.. I would call the cops if my house got broken into.

Although, I might have some questionable things that might get me arrested. Like having manga or japanese related things.

VoluntaryAmerican
11-02-2012, 01:25 PM
Damned if you do damned if you don't.

AFPVet
11-02-2012, 01:34 PM
Damned if you do damned if you don't.

Exactly... he really did have to call the cops because otherwise, insurance wouldn't take care of it. In this case, it really is damned if you do, damned if you don't. Lawyers cost money, so either way he's getting screwed out of money.

I have to admit, it doesn't look good when you leave drugs out for cops to find them.

NCGOPer_for_Paul
11-02-2012, 01:41 PM
Are the Clayton, GA police just plain ignorant or just plain stupid?

It sounds like the ICE agent was actually a decent cop, and really the locals should be deferring to him, if it's a Federal case.

presence
11-02-2012, 01:54 PM
“forever reluctant to pick up the phone and dial the police again.”

Needs to get together with these people and start a support group or something:



(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/watch-parents-suicidal-boy-shot-police-speak-article-1.1194069#ixzz2B4lhuo00) "That's the one thing I would have done different today.
I would not have called 911," says Lisa Messina.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?394239-Parents-of-suicidal-boy-SHOT-BY-POLICE-sniper-speak-out

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
11-02-2012, 02:13 PM
Exactly... he really did have to call the cops because otherwise, insurance wouldn't take care of it. In this case, it really is damned if you do, damned if you don't. Lawyers cost money, so either way he's getting screwed out of money.

I have to admit, it doesn't look good when you leave drugs out for cops to find them.


So it's a reasonable assumption for the cops to think he called the police on himself? Or that he just wanted to give them the drugs? That was their operating assumption, and I think it sounds stupid, particularly when his former tenants had just been arrested for possession of the same drug. If that is so confusing to a police officer, maybe they should find another line of work.

Czolgosz
11-04-2012, 11:46 AM
I don't need to State the obvious.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/couple-arrested-after-reporting-drugs-found-rental/nSs8Q/

KCIndy
11-04-2012, 12:02 PM
The couple spent two days in the Clayton County Jail before each posted a $5,000 bond.

“Now, I will be forever reluctant to pick up the phone and dial the police again,” Keeley said.

Keeley and his wife still have to go to court to face the charges.



Mr. Keeley, if you're even remotely considering picking up the phone and "dialing the police" for any future problems.... YOU DIDN'T LEARN THE LESSON!!!

Now put on your dunce cap and go sit in the corner until you wake up to reality, dumbass.

juleswin
11-04-2012, 12:07 PM
I wish people posting news stories will post a little more than headline and a link. A little excerpts will help readers determine if its a worth their time to click on the link. The story sounds interesting but then again it could be a case of a good headline writer.

So please next time, can you give just a bit more than a headline

EBounding
11-04-2012, 12:14 PM
But I don't understand, these were "Good Citizens" who had nothing to hide.

Czolgosz
11-04-2012, 12:24 PM
I wish people posting news stories will post a little more than headline and a link. A little excerpts will help readers determine if its a worth their time to click on the link. The story sounds interesting but then again it could be a case of a good headline writer.

So please next time, can you give just a bit more than a headline

Sure, but I believe you can extrapolate the content of the story just by the headline and forum on which it's posted.

juleswin
11-04-2012, 12:49 PM
Ouch, at least the only actions good ole peace officers took was to lock em up when they could have easily seized the property under some provision of the drug war. Aren't they just merciful :)

Anti Federalist
11-04-2012, 01:03 PM
I wish people posting news stories will post a little more than headline and a link. A little excerpts will help readers determine if its a worth their time to click on the link. The story sounds interesting but then again it could be a case of a good headline writer.

So please next time, can you give just a bit more than a headline

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Never Call the Cops lesson #3971

Thumbnail:

Man finds his rental home torn up and meth inside.

Calls cops to report it, like a good little citizen.

Cops end up arresting him instead.





Clayton landlord arrested after discovering meth in rental home

Updated: 4:46 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 1, 2012 | Posted: 3:52 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 1, 2012

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/clayton-landlord-arrested-after-discovering-meth-i/nStTw/

By Christopher Seward

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

A landlord and his wife were still reeling Thursday from spending two days in the Clayton County Jail this week after reporting to police that they had found bags of methamphetamine in their rental property.

“I’m still in disbelief,” Michael Keeley told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Keeley and his new bride, Channel, are free on $5,000 bond each after being charged with tampering with drug evidence recovered Sunday from their rental home in Rex.

The incident was first reported by Channel 2 Action News. Efforts were being made Thursday to get more information from Clayton police on the arrests.

When contacted by the AJC, a Clayton police spokeswoman said it was a federal case, despite the state charge. Federal authorities, however, said they were not involved in the arrests.

Keeley, of Lithonia, said he, his wife and their 9-year-old son had just arrived at the home around 9 a.m. Sunday when they noticed the back door open, a window broken and the home vandalized. When they went into a bathroom, they noticed holes in the wall and the vanity mirror removed.

Keeley said he looked closer and noticed eight bags in the wall, which Clayton police narcotics officers later identified as meth.

Earlier on Oct. 2, agents with federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Homeland Security, and Clayton police arrested three tenants who lived at the home after meth was found inside a vehicle two of them were riding in, Keeley said.

At the time, the landlord said he provided an ICE agent with information the tenants had provided on their rental applications. After the home was searched for drugs following the arrests, the home was turned back over to Keeley, who returned around 9 a.m. Sunday with his wife and child to clean it up and ready it for the next tenant.

Keeley said that when he found the bags of meth in the bathroom wall, he took them out and left them. He then immediately called the ICE agent he’d spoken to earlier. “He said, ‘I’m on my way and call 911,’” Keeley recalled Thursday. After calling 911, Keeley said he and his wife briefly left the residence.

“We didn’t feel safe in the house,” the landlord said. “We didn’t know if they [intruders] were still there. We didn’t know if someone was in the attic.”

When he returned to the home a second time Sunday around 10 a.m., Clayton police had already arrived and the ICE agent arrived around 10 minutes later.

“I showed them where the back door was open, I showed them where the window was broken out. Then I walked down the hall [to the bathroom] and showed them where the drugs were,” Keeley said.

Keeley said that when the ICE agent eventually left, “the whole atmosphere changed.”

He said the Clayton officers began intensely interrogating him and his wife and questioning him about calls he’d made that morning, many of which Keeley said he’d made trying to reach the ICE agent.

“’Who is this person you called? Who is this person you called?” Keeley said the officers demanded to know until they “snatched my phone.”

Keeley said one agent told him, “OK, come on, guy. Tell the truth. We know no one broke into your house. You did it yourself.” Keeley said he couldn’t tell whether he was also being accused of having the drugs there.

Keeley said his wife was interrogated in the kitchen while he was questioned in another part of the home. Meanwhile, their son was outside in a vehicle crying. Keeley said that when his wife was allowed to console the child, a narcotics officer threatened to put the child in protective services if someone did not come to get him. A neighbor kept the child until relatives arrived, Keeley said.

The couple was taken to Clayton County Jail, where they remained until posting bond Tuesday morning.

Keeley said police still have his and his wife’s cellphones. He was able to remotely retrieve a voicemail from the ICE agent, who had been at the home earlier.

“He was apologetic. He said he did not authorize, he did not know, he had no knowledge that they were targeting us for arrest,” Keeley said. “He thanked me for being a help to them in the past.”

(Yeah, some consolation. - AF)

Keeley said he still has not been given a date for a court appearance before a Clayton magistrate.

When contacted Thursday, a Clayton County police spokeswoman would only say that the case was being investigated by ICE, and not Clayton police, even though the evidence tampering charge was state and not federal.

Vinnie Picard, an ICE spokesman, however, told the AJC on Thursday that ICE and Homeland Security were not involved in Sunday’s arrest. “Mr. Keeley and his wife were not arrested on federal charges,” Picard said.

The entire experience has left Keeley disillusioned.

“I feel that we were violated because we put our trust in you [police] to protect us and you turned it against us,” Keeley told Channel 2, adding he will be “forever reluctant to pick up the phone and dial the police again.”

GunnyFreedom
11-04-2012, 01:27 PM
Someone wanted a notch in his belt, and was upset that the criminals were cooling on ICE, so he's willing to put away known innocents.

never, ever, call the police. Especially if you aren't guilty of anything, because then you don't have a 'bargaining chip.'

GunnyFreedom
11-04-2012, 01:31 PM
OK, I should have done this a long, long time ago, but I just started a bookmarks folder for 'never call the cops' proofa, and stuck this thread in it as the folder starter. Next time someone says "If you are innocent then you have nothing to hide" they are going to get a screenfull.

Anti Federalist
11-04-2012, 01:34 PM
OK, I should have done this a long, long time ago, but I just started a bookmarks folder for 'never call the cops' proofa, and stuck this thread in it as the folder starter. Next time someone says "If you are innocent then you have nothing to hide" they are going to get a screenfull.

I try and keep both of these updated.

Police Abuse

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?390933-Police-Abuse

Police Shoot Dog

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?390564-Police-shoot-dog&highlight=police+shoot+dog

Brian4Liberty
11-04-2012, 02:35 PM
Someone wanted a notch in his belt, and was upset that the criminals were cooling on ICE, so he's willing to put away known innocents.


Yeah, it sounds like some kind of vendetta on the Police Department's part because he called ICE instead of them.

The story isn't clear about who searched the house the first time and didn't find anything.

Travlyr
11-04-2012, 03:02 PM
Mr. Keeley, if you're even remotely considering picking up the phone and "dialing the police" for any future problems.... YOU DIDN'T LEARN THE LESSON!!!

Now put on your dunce cap and go sit in the corner until you wake up to reality, dumbass.

lolz ... You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to KCIndy again.

tod evans
11-04-2012, 03:21 PM
lolz ... You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to KCIndy again.

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