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Lucille
11-02-2012, 10:56 AM
The public schools have done a great job indoctrinating America's children! As have the bankstas and their partners in crime in CONgress on both sides of the aisle with their fascist shenanigans.

Americans Aged 18-29 Have A More Favorable Response To Socialism Than To Capitalism
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-01/americans-aged-18-29-have-more-favorable-response-socialism-capitalism


based on a Pew survey of America's youth, or those aged 18-29, more have a positive view response toward Socialism than they do toward Capitalism. We will leave it at that.

Socialism: 49% Positive / 43% Negative:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/10-2/USA%20Corp%204_0.jpg

And Capitalism: 46% Positive / 47% Negative:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/10-2/USA%20Corp%205_0.jpg

July
11-02-2012, 11:01 AM
We have our work cut out for us.

CaptUSA
11-02-2012, 11:02 AM
This brings tears to my eyes. 50% overall positive towards capitalism?

Capitalism - the greatest system in the history of the planet. Providing the most benefit for the most people in the most moral way. A system based on free-exchange and liberty. An overwhelming source of good. And it gets 50%.

I see things like this and it makes me want to go into hiding.

AuH20
11-02-2012, 11:03 AM
We have our work cut out for us.

I'm not worried. Experience is coming. Either they will adapt or die.

erowe1
11-02-2012, 11:05 AM
Actually, what this means is that 18-29 year-olds have a more favorable view of the word "socialism" than they do the word "capitalism."

The group that is probably the most favorable to socialism itself, even if they don't call it that, is the 65+ group as evidenced by the fact that Social Security and Medicare are untouchable.

brandon
11-02-2012, 11:05 AM
I'd like to see the same study done on that age range back in the 1960s. I imagine it probably hasn't changed too much.

Lucille
11-02-2012, 11:11 AM
What surprised me most were the 30-49! They have no excuse.

That an ideology that lead to the slaughter of hundreds of millions of people is favorable to so many in the U.S. is truly tragic.

brandon
11-02-2012, 11:12 AM
The 65+ group were the hippies of the 60s and look at them now.

AuH20
11-02-2012, 11:13 AM
What surprised me most were the 30-49! They have no excuse.

That an ideology that lead to the slaughter of hundreds of millions of people is favorable to so many in the U.S. is truly tragic.

It's pure ignorance and social conditioning. The 'livelihood' of the state is dependent on these 2 factors.

brandon
11-02-2012, 11:17 AM
Would have been interesting if they polled keynesianism and communism too.

Lucille
11-02-2012, 11:23 AM
I should have mentioned the media also. The socialists have taken over that too.

ninepointfive
11-02-2012, 11:27 AM
I'm not worried. Experience is coming. Either they will adapt or die.


so what's the secret handshake going to be?

AGRP
11-02-2012, 11:28 AM
People are generally stupid.

specsaregood
11-02-2012, 11:28 AM
I'd like to see the same study done on that age range back in the 1960s. I imagine it probably hasn't changed too much.

I'd like to see the same thing done but with adding the word "national" in front of socialism.

AuH20
11-02-2012, 11:29 AM
so what's the secret handshake going to be?

I'm going to have to come up with something. Maybe some Mises trivia. :D

Kilrain
11-02-2012, 11:36 AM
Would have been interesting if they polled keynesianism

20%: "You mean the place our president comes from?"
80%: Blank stare.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
11-02-2012, 11:40 AM
so what's the secret handshake going to be?


Less ribs showing.

VoluntaryAmerican
11-02-2012, 11:41 AM
Actually, what this means is that 18-29 year-olds have a more favorable view of the word "socialism" than they do the word "capitalism."

The group that is probably the most favorable to socialism itself, even if they don't call it that, is the 65+ group as evidenced by the fact that Social Security and Medicare are untouchable.

This is exactly right.

Most people my age 18-29 associate capitalism with corporatism. Not good at all.

Lucille
11-02-2012, 11:46 AM
This is exactly right.

Most people my age 18-29 associate capitalism with corporatism. Not good at all.

I read somewhere that "free market" polls better than "capitalism."

ShaneEnochs
11-02-2012, 11:54 AM
It's not really fair, though. They have no idea what the hell capitalism is. We've had corporatism running in this country for over a hundred years.

AuH20
11-02-2012, 11:56 AM
It's not really fair, though. They have no idea what the hell capitalism is. We've had corporatism running in this country for over a hundred years.

But they don't want to know what capitalism is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ERbC7JyCfU

VoluntaryAmerican
11-02-2012, 12:10 PM
But they don't want to know what captalism is.


It's not really fair, though. They have no idea what the hell capitalism is. We've had corporatism running in this country for over a hundred years.

Ignorance with a pinch of propaganda?

We have to remember millions of fools base their opinion of capitalism on movies like this:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeROnVUADj0

QuickZ06
11-02-2012, 12:17 PM
I read somewhere that "free market" polls better than "capitalism."

Yep and teachers do a mighty fine job at spewing more garbage "facts" about capitalism. Out of all the teachers I have ever had, only a few were for capitalism.

Lucille
11-02-2012, 01:00 PM
It will only get worse if Romney wins. If a "conservative" is in the WH when the collapse happens (scheduled to arrive w/in the next four years), "capitalism" will get the blame, again. Which is why I'm hoping and praying for an Obama win. If the GOP and Republican loyalists had a lick of sense, they'd be doing the same.

July
11-02-2012, 01:34 PM
This is exactly right.

Most people my age 18-29 associate capitalism with corporatism. Not good at all.

That's because we have so many politicians-in both parties- talking about corporatism, but calling it "capitalism" and using words like "free enterprise" to describe government subsidies, and government/private partnerships. So I don't know. If that's what most people think "capitalism" is, then maybe this poll isn't so bad. That means 18-29 year olds do have a very negative view of corporatism.

Of course that also means the word has been very sucessfully co-opted, and that's a problem too.

Lucille
11-02-2012, 02:46 PM
We have our work cut out for us.

We are the Remnant (http://lewrockwell.com/woods/woods193.html)!


"Tell them what is wrong, and why and what is going to happen unless they have a change of heart and straighten up. Don't mince matters. Make it clear that they are positively down to their last chance. Give it to them good and strong and keep on giving it to them. I suppose perhaps I ought to tell you," He added, "that it won't do any good. The official class and their intelligentsia will turn up their noses at you and the masses will not even listen. They will all keep on in their own ways until they carry everything down to destruction, and you will probably be lucky if you get out with your life."
[...]
"Ah," the Lord said, "you do not get the point. There is a Remnant there that you know nothing about. They are obscure, unorganized, inarticulate, each one rubbing along as best he can. They need to be encouraged and braced up because when everything has gone completely to the dogs, they are the ones who will come back and build up a new society; and meanwhile, your preaching will reassure them and keep them hanging on. Your job is to take care of the Remnant, so be off now and set about it."