View Full Version : Senate Approves Bill that Legalizes Sodomy and Bestiality in U.S. Military
ZENemy
10-31-2012, 12:46 PM
I've heard but never seen this, well here it is...
I don't get it? What possible purpose does this serve?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7rlE5PQz8&feature=g-u-u
alucard13mmfmj
10-31-2012, 12:51 PM
So... people always joke about afghans doing it with goats. Now we potentially have military personnel that can do it with the same said animal and not get in trouble? O_O
Varin
10-31-2012, 12:53 PM
No reason to outlaw bestiality unless the animal is hurt, no reason to outlaw sodomy between consenting adults.
but dont smoke a joint or well throw you in a cage
but dont hold bible study at your home or well throw you in a cage
but dont question "taxes" or well throw you in a cage
but dont harvest water FROM THE or well throw you in a cage
but dont grow food or well throw you in a cage
but dont have too many garage sales or well throw you in a cage
but dont SIMPLY TRY TO SURVIVE WITHOUT OUR "SERVICES" or well throw you in a cage
Now add your own!
Elwar
10-31-2012, 01:18 PM
finally!
Brian4Liberty
10-31-2012, 01:44 PM
Removing antiquated code is not equal to "legalizing" or "endorsing".
Acala
10-31-2012, 01:49 PM
Comfort chickens are easier to manage than Comfort Girls.
RonPaulFanInGA
10-31-2012, 01:51 PM
No reason to outlaw bestiality unless the animal is hurt
How does the animal go about consenting?
Acala
10-31-2012, 01:54 PM
How does the animal go about consenting?
Animals are incapable of consenting. That is why we can eat them without violating the NAP.
tod evans
10-31-2012, 01:55 PM
Thank goodness!
Now maybe I can enjoy my next blowjob without worrying about stormtroopers kicking in the bedroom door and causing the ol' lady to chomp down in fright. :eek:
jmdrake
10-31-2012, 01:58 PM
LOL. Found the original article: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/senate-approves-bill-legalizes-sodomy-and-bestiality-us-military
Okay. If we were really on our "A" game, we'd call every conservative talk show in the U.S. with this bit of information and ask why so many conservatives voted to decriminalize sodomy and bestiality in the military. Forget the libertarian "Why should it be illegal anyway" position for a moment. This is an opportunity to rub the stupidity of the NDAA in the faces of those who supported it! In fact, Rand should introduce a bill that repeals both indefinite detention of U.S. citizens and reinstates the anti-bestiality provision. Force Lindsey Graham to vote to keep bestiality legal!
jmdrake
10-31-2012, 01:58 PM
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TonySutton
10-31-2012, 02:05 PM
It is still listed in the 2012 version of the Manual for Courts Martial.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/law/mcm.pdf
It still lists sodomy and bestiality. One thing I see that might be new was a new element that says:
4. That the act was done by force and without the consent of the other person.
I will dig more for changes to the manual
alucard13mmfmj
10-31-2012, 02:08 PM
i noticed double posts are getting more frequent.
at any rate, i thought christian conservatives would be against sodomy.
TonySutton
10-31-2012, 02:24 PM
More info, Obama signed the 2011 NDAA which supposedly contained this clause but according to the official US Code as of 1/03/2012 Article 125 was still part of the UCMJ and it does not show any new changes.
http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fastweb.exe?getdoc+uscview+t09t12+626+2++%28sodomy %29
Sorry that was the 2012 NDAA signed on Dec 31 2012
TonySutton
10-31-2012, 02:58 PM
I found the actual public law
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-112publ81/pdf/PLAW-112publ81.pdf
It only discusses changes to Article 120, which is for Rape. They revamped that section several years ago and have been tweaking it ever since.
Matt Collins
10-31-2012, 03:03 PM
This was passed a while ago:
http://tncampaignforliberty.org/wordpress/2011/12/gay-sex-and-beastiality-in-the-military-senators-corker-and-alexander-approve/
Confederate
10-31-2012, 03:11 PM
Removing antiquated code is not equal to "legalizing" or "endorsing".
How is removing a ban on fucking animals "antiquated?"
Brian4Liberty
10-31-2012, 03:16 PM
How is removing a ban on fucking animals "antiquated?"
No doubt the practice was more of an issue when the country was predominantly agricultural and this law was written. And obviously society's norms on sexual activity between consenting adults has changed since then.
Confederate
10-31-2012, 03:23 PM
No doubt the practice was more of an issue when the country was predominantly agricultural and this law was written. And obviously society's norms on sexual activity between consenting adults has changed since then.
1) How has society's norm on sexual activity changed in reference to bestiality?
2) How is an animal a consenting adult?
Brian4Liberty
10-31-2012, 03:29 PM
1) How has society's norm on sexual activity changed in reference to bestiality?
2) How is an animal a consenting adult?
I didn't say that. I said that it's probably not as big of a problem as it originally was when the law was written, and I also specified that not having a law about something does not imply "endorsement" or necessarily make it specifically legal. Other laws may apply.
Do you think we need a law for everything? Is this a big issue for you?
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