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presence
10-28-2012, 03:01 PM
What makes a conservative? What makes a liberal? New research suggests that political socialization begins with parenting. Mothers and fathers who adopt an authoritarian parenting style (as opposed to an egalitarian style) tend to raise children who endorse conservative ideologies as adults (http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/news/releases/parenting-and-temperament-in-childhood-predict-later-political-ideology.html).

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-10/science-confirms-obvious-authoritarian-parents-raise-conservative-offspring

GunnyFreedom
10-28-2012, 03:08 PM
my parents were halfway in between and I've been a strict Constitutionalist from my earliest memory. no options on the poll cover my situation.

Grubb556
10-28-2012, 03:37 PM
When you mean conservative do you mean the neocon conservatism ?

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
10-28-2012, 03:56 PM
What makes a conservative? What makes a liberal? New research suggests that political socialization begins with parenting.


My grandfather used to call me a democrat. I was 5. Small family units are usually socialist. I think that is what causes reasonably intelligent people to think socialism is a viable option. They've experienced it successfully first hand. They don't understand that some things work small scale and fail (with horrible consequences) large scale.

Nothing made me "conservative." I was a free range kid who lived in a free range world. I came to believe that living things like to be free.

Origanalist
10-28-2012, 04:05 PM
You need another option;

I had crazy screwed up parents, and I'm crazy and screwed up.

Shane Harris
10-28-2012, 04:17 PM
what the heck is an egalitarian parent as opposed to an authoritarian parent. families are different than the state. I know lots of people who parent about the same but some are conservative and others are liberal.

Dr.3D
10-28-2012, 04:20 PM
What is a conservative?

Qdog
10-28-2012, 04:26 PM
Im confused. I had Authoritarian parents, and I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Which one
should I choose?

Chester Copperpot
10-28-2012, 04:44 PM
my parents were halfway in between and I've been a strict Constitutionalist from my earliest memory. no options on the poll cover my situation.


I think im with you....

I remember being like 8 years old and hearing about gun control and marriage licenses at the same time and thinking they were both silly

Qdog
10-28-2012, 04:48 PM
I think im with you....

I remember being like 8 years old and hearing about gun control and marriage licenses at the same time and thinking they were both silly
I was a total Neo-Con when I was 8 years old. I thought the solution to everything was to bomb/nuke everyone and more government spending. I still have hope that people will grow up and stop acting like me when I was 8... :(

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
10-28-2012, 04:57 PM
I was a total Neo-Con when I was 8 years old.


"We need to protect our interests" is an easy sell to an 8 year old. Not your fault for believing anything at 8.

presence
10-28-2012, 05:00 PM
For what its worth, I almost dumped the poll idea while I was writing it. Take 'em as broad categories.

For those of you new to the term "egalitarian":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism

egalitarianism as defined by (1) a negative attitude towards rules and principles, and (2) a positive attitude towards group decision-making

dannno
10-28-2012, 05:01 PM
My parents tried to raise me strict and kinda boring but I turned out an anti-authoritarian pot smoking hippie.

romacox
10-28-2012, 05:15 PM
I had a strict military father, but he was a libertarian, and so am I.

ClydeCoulter
10-28-2012, 05:34 PM
I grew up with strict parents, but was free to roam. I spent most of my time by myself in the woods investigating or on the streets (we moved around a lot, sometimes in the boonies, sometimes in the city, mostly boonies, I liked the boonies).

So, I guess I was kinda like MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2, a free range kid.

Now, I'm me. Don't know what to call it.

edit: And my grandfather called me "nig**r preacher"

tod evans
10-28-2012, 05:35 PM
I've rebelled against any type of authority since I was very young, some of my politics are to the right of Atilla the Hun and others left of Gandhi......

My parents where/are independents...

No choice in the poll for me.

Agorism
10-28-2012, 05:47 PM
Depends how you define conservative.

James Dobson writes books about how "conservatives" should beat and "spank" their children into total submission.,

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
10-28-2012, 05:58 PM
egalitarianism as defined by (1) a negative attitude towards rules and principles, and (2) a positive attitude towards group decision-making


Those things sound like opposites.

The only way they align is if you don't like #1 and DO like #2. Then, if you like #2, you have to force compliance from #1.

No sense.

Henry Rogue
10-28-2012, 06:02 PM
When I was a kid, I was shocked with everything adults deal with. What's a license? You mean you have to have a license to drive a car? shocked! You mean you have to get a license to get married? shocked! What's a tax? You mean you have to give them money for making money? Shocked!

UMULAS
10-28-2012, 06:11 PM
My parents like theocracy while some of my relatives are extreme left (socialism, communism). Yet I'm a Libertarian. Where do I put for that?

GunnyFreedom
10-28-2012, 06:33 PM
Those things sound like opposites.

The only way they align is if you don't like #1 and DO like #2. Then, if you like #2, you have to force compliance from #1.

No sense.

I have never considered that the definition of egalitarian, that's more like two of the possible outcomes of egalitarianism.

Egalitarianism is the philosophy of 'all-equality,' from the French egal for equal.

Considering every being perfectly equal, persons may reject authority because authorities are above rather than equal.

Considering every being perfectly equal, persons may embrace consensus-based group decision making.

So the definition you cited would appear to me not to be a definition of egalitarian, but rather two of the potential consequences of egalitarianism.

In the context of the OP poll, an 'egalitarian' family would promote the idea that their 3 year old toddler has an equal share in directing the family as does the 35 year old bread-winner.

ronpaulfollower999
10-28-2012, 07:08 PM
My parents raised me to do the right things and respect others. I wouldn't say they were egalitarian or authoritarian. They had rules which had to be followed, but they weren't over authoritarian rules.

My political evolution is even more complex, but when I heard Ron Paul's message I immediately fell in love.

BuddyRey
10-28-2012, 07:14 PM
I have an absolutely wonderful family. They never spanked me or verbally abused me, and were always very supportive of my endeavors, including questioning standard political and religious orthodoxies, and thinking for myself. They were hardcore democrats during my youth, and I was too; but once we were all introduced to Ron Paul, we all gradually became more libertarian. I'm full-on AnCap now, and they still have a ways to go, but they're constantly making progress. I'm very proud of them.

Philhelm
10-29-2012, 02:14 AM
I think what made me develop within the "conservative" spectrum was the circle-jerk reasoning of political correctness during the 90's. Take feminism, for example. I saw through the bullshit at an early age, and realized that it was about what people could gain at the expense of others, rather than any true sense of justice and equality. It seemed disingenuous to me, and any attempt to point out inconsistencies resulted in an accusation of being a misogynist. God forbid that a man should have an equal chance of getting custody of his children in a family court, and so on.

amy31416
10-29-2012, 06:05 AM
This poll assumes that both parents were of the same mindset.

Nobody had one strict parent and one "liberal" parent?

ShaneEnochs
10-29-2012, 06:14 AM
I was raised by my mom. She was kind of in between, but she was not politically inclined at all. I started out liberal because of a girlfriend I had that got me into politics, and then I became more conservative. I lean conservative on fiscal issues, but very liberal on social issues. None of the options really apply to me.

maskander
10-29-2012, 06:16 AM
I had authoritarian parents, but I'm liberal 1 4.35%

Seriously, I really am the odd duck here.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
10-29-2012, 12:14 PM
In the context of the OP poll, an 'egalitarian' family would promote the idea that their 3 year old toddler has an equal share in directing the family as does the 35 year old bread-winner.


So a young couple who had triplets would soon find themselves eating popsicles and candy for dinner every night. lol

GunnyFreedom
10-29-2012, 12:57 PM
So a young couple who had triplets would soon find themselves eating popsicles and candy for dinner every night. lol

Aye, with both parents pleading on deaf ears for their four year olds to eat something healthier. Looking around at Americans in general today, it would seem to explain a lot. ;)

Zippyjuan
10-30-2012, 12:20 PM
Which is the cause and the effect? It is also possible that conservatives are more likely to be more strict with their children and kids more often are simliar politiically to their parents?