Why this election matters despite similarities between Romney and Obama

[SilentBull]

My take on what this election is really about, since it isn't about balancing the budget, a sound currency, and a humble foreign policy: http://www.truthinexile.com/2012/10/28/why-this-election-matters-despite-the-similarities-between-romney-and-obama/

[fr33]

You go ahead and vote Romney. I'll blame you for WW3. Yes Romney is barely better at economics but his stated foreign policy is to increase spending and openly taunt Iran, Russia, and China.

[jay_dub]

You go ahead and vote Romney. I'll blame you for WW3. Yes Romney is barely better at economics but his stated foreign policy is to increase spending and openly taunt Iran, Russia, and China.

Romney's Foreign policy would look something like this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSo0duY7-9s

[Anti Federalist]

So I asked myself, what is this election really about? Despite the fact that neither candidate is willing to get serious about what is needed, I believe there are important differences between Romney and Obama.

"Neither candidate is serious about changing anything so here's why I think you need to vote for one or the other."

Massive self contradiction.

Do the right thing, and sleep well on Tuesday night:

http://i.imgur.com/0utF7.jpg

[SilentBull]

"Neither candidate is serious about changing anything so here's why I think you need to vote for one or the other."

Massive self contradiction.

Do the right thing, and sleep well on Tuesday night:

http://i.imgur.com/0utF7.jpg

It's not a contradiction. I already stated in the article that they are the same and it's a lose-lose situation. But there is a difference in that Obama has been attacking success in America. That's the point of the article. That I would really hate for Americans to start thinking this is OK, especially those people who really don't follow politics and may actually be swayed by the communist rhetoric.

Furthermore I didn't say I would definitely vote for Romney. I explain that it scares me what Obama would do in a hyper-inflation scenario, for example. This was Peter Schiff's reason for saying he would vote for Romney, before he changed his mind and is now voting for Gary. Besides, I live in Mass. Obama has the race locked up here, so I'm pretty sure I am voting for Gary Johnson.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Your sidebar says MA, a state that's guaranteed to be won by Obama. Romney isn't even contesting it. The fact is your vote doesn't really matter for either of these two unless you live in a swing state due to the way the system is set up. If you are going to vote for someone who can't win in MA, it might as well be a third party candidate, rather than a detestable creature like Romney.

I don't get why so many RP supporters are agonizing over Obamney when so few live in states that actually matter. The only way to truly waste your vote is giving it to one of these two in a red or blue state, where your vote has absolutely no influence on the outcome of this "close" race.

[SilentBull]

Your sidebar says MA, a state that's guaranteed to be won by Obama. Romney isn't even contesting it. The fact is your vote doesn't really matter for either of these two unless you live in a swing state due to the way the system is set up. If you are going to vote for someone who can't win in MA, it might as well be a third party candidate, rather than a detestable creature like Romney.

I don't get why so many RP supporters are agonizing over Obamney when so few live in states that actually matter. The only way to truly waste your vote is giving it to one of these two in a red or blue state, where your vote has absolutely no influence on the outcome of this "close" race.

I agree with you. That's what I said in my post above. I wanted to make the point in the article about why it would be a difficult decision, but in reality I will vote for Gary Johnson since my vote will not make a difference here.

[romacox]

This election is also about breaking the strangle hold the two parties hold over our elections. ...otherwise we are doomed to repeat the same thing over and over and over......

In George Washington’s Farewell Address of 1796, he actually warned against the party system we now have. He feared that it would be used to divide and manipulate us.

As parents, we quickly learn that most two year olds will say no to just about anything. As a result we learn not to ask or even tell them to put their gloves on. We, instead, ask them, “do you want to wear the red gloves or the blue ones.” The child is none the wiser for the fact that we have just manipulated the system. Such is how our two party system now treats us…do you want this evil choice or this lesser evil of the two evils? Now that’s an exciting choice.

In the current two party system, other interests like the Constitution Party, and the Libertarian party find themselves excluded by the Democrats and Republicans. This is exactly what the Founding Fathers feared. I find it ironic that any group who advocated a return to the Constitution, would now be excluded. I can’t help but think what would the Founding Fathers say.

[Anti Federalist]

It's not a contradiction. I already stated in the article that they are the same and it's a lose-lose situation. But there is a difference in that Obama has been attacking success in America. That's the point of the article. That I would really hate for Americans to start thinking this is OK, especially those people who really don't follow politics and may actually be swayed by the communist rhetoric.

Umm, that's half the country already.

And it was this way long before O Bomb Ya came to town.

[heavenlyboy34]

"Neither candidate is serious about changing anything so here's why I think you need to vote for one or the other."

Massive self contradiction.

Do the right thing, and sleep well on Tuesday night:

http://i.imgur.com/0utF7.jpg
I'll see yours and match it. http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk12/heavenlyboy34/RPballot.jpg

[XTreat]

Why would four more years of Obama be better than Romney?

Because 4 years of a lying, big government, neo-liberal, Keynesian is better than 8.

Because he will possibly kill (slightly) less people in unconstitutional wars of aggression.

Because if Romney wins the economy will crash and die under the banner of capitalism instead of socialism. This would be very bad for real free market capitalists.

Because a democratic president with a republican congress is the best possible outcome for those of us who actually want the government to do less not more.

Getting a Republican into office in 2020 after Romney shitting all over this country for 8 years will be impossible. At that point the American people will elect a REAL socialist tyrant.

[cindy25]

Why would four more years of Obama be better than Romney?

Because 4 years of a lying, big government, neo-liberal, Keynesian is better than 8.

Because he will possibly kill (slightly) less people in unconstitutional wars of aggression.

Because if Romney wins the economy will crash and die under the banner of capitalism instead of socialism. This would be very bad for real free market capitalists.

Because a democratic president with a republican congress is the best possible outcome for those of us who actually want the government to do less not more.

Getting a Republican into office in 2020 after Romney shitting all over this country for 8 years will be impossible. At that point the American people will elect a REAL socialist tyrant.

true but you forgot to factor in Obamacare and SCOTUS

[PaulConventionWV]

My take on what this election is really about, since it isn't about balancing the budget, a sound currency, and a humble foreign policy: http://www.truthinexile.com/2012/10/28/why-this-election-matters-despite-the-similarities-between-romney-and-obama/

You think THAT is important? I would laugh, but my laughing is stifled by the fact that I suspect you and whoever wrote that article is serious. There is no difference, no matter what either candidate says, no matter what vibe they seem to give off about the average American businessman. Romney is just as bad on the economy as Barack Obama. Just because Obama said those things, that doesn't mean it is different from what Romney believes. They are the exact same person for all I care, and I am absolutely indifferent to what they say. They are just toting the party line and playing their role in this grand charade.

[Tod]

I live in a swing state and I'm going to (try to) vote my conscience, and my conscience sure as heck ain't saying we need either one of these two.

[Tod]

true but you forgot to factor in Obamacare and SCOTUS

Romney is the godfather of Obamacare and said at least 3 times on the record in 2009 that we needed it. Sure, now he is going to quibble over details, but that is just so party sheeple can fool themselves into thinking there is a significant difference.

You actually think Romney is going to put forward good candidates for the SCOTUS? hahahaha

[Tod]

Getting a Republican into office in 2020 after Romney shitting all over this country for 8 years will be impossible. At that point the American people will elect a REAL socialist tyrant.

^what he said.

[XTreat]

true but you forgot to factor in Obamacare and SCOTUS

If Romney wins and you expect Romney to take real measures to repeal Obamacare then you are setting yourself up for a big letdown.

And I won't lose any sleep over the severely conservative supreme court justices that Romney would have undoubtedly appointed.

[SilentBull]

Why would four more years of Obama be better than Romney?

Because 4 years of a lying, big government, neo-liberal, Keynesian is better than 8.

Because he will possibly kill (slightly) less people in unconstitutional wars of aggression.

Because if Romney wins the economy will crash and die under the banner of capitalism instead of socialism. This would be very bad for real free market capitalists.

Because a democratic president with a republican congress is the best possible outcome for those of us who actually want the government to do less not more.

Getting a Republican into office in 2020 after Romney shitting all over this country for 8 years will be impossible. At that point the American people will elect a REAL socialist tyrant.

Those are good points and I have gone back and forth as to what would be better, since I want to see Rand become president in 2016.

[moostraks]

I live in a swing state and I'm going to (try to) vote my conscience, and my conscience sure as heck ain't saying we need either one of these two.

Gotta love living in Ohio. Would that I lived in a non-swing state. It was so much better last time for me, because I had no problem with Baldwin. I feel heartsick this time.

[mport1]

You go ahead and vote Romney. I'll blame you for WW3. Yes Romney is barely better at economics but his stated foreign policy is to increase spending and openly taunt Iran, Russia, and China.

I'd argue that he is even worse than Obama on economics. He is just as socialist/fascist and will massively increase spending in a number of areas like the military. The debt explode if he is president.