Issue: Foreign Policy: Private Army Contractor?

[Ira Aten]

How many folks know anything about this "Blackwater Ops" company in South Carolina training civilian law enforcement officers in Military styles of operations?

This link has several videos showing that this firm has obtained over five hundred million dollars of Government contracts for "contractor" soldiers in Iraq, since 1995, and apparantly is made up of retired military personnel. Check out these videos, and let me know how do you folks think Dr. Paul would handle a private army such as this.

http://www.wtprn.com/Blackwater.html

(Hope I posted the link correctly. I am new at this)

[angelatc]

I think Dr Paul would hire them to root out Bin Laden so we wouldn't have to put actual troops on Islamic soil.

[PatriotOne]

How many folks know anything about this "Blackwater Ops" company in South Carolina training civilian law enforcement officers in Military styles of operations?

This link has several videos showing that this firm has obtained over five hundred million dollars of Government contracts for "contractor" soldiers in Iraq, since 1995, and apparantly is made up of retired military personnel. Check out these videos, and let me know how do you folks think Dr. Paul would handle a private army such as this.

http://www.wtprn.com/Blackwater.html

(Hope I posted the link correctly. I am new at this)

It's even worse that. Between 2004 and 2006, they were awarded 335 mil and no telling how much in 2007. http://www.fedspending.org/fpds/fpds.php?parent_id=38113&sortby=u&detail=-1&datype=T&reptype=r&database=fpds&fiscal_year=&submit=GO

Dr. Paul would deep six them for sure. Blackwater security personnel are trained to be cold blooded killers. They are mercenaries and they are bound to no laws in Iraq.

I am aware of two huge training facilities at the moment. One in North Carolina and one in Virginia. I am also aware of them expanding their operations and are looking right here in Washington State (Shelton, Wa) to put in another training facility amd probably in other areas of the U.S.

The fact that the U.S. is using these people is utterly abhorant. Even worse, is I suspect when the U.S. is forced into a police state, these will be some of the people who will be taking control of the masses. People who yet understand the imminent danger we are in by our very own Government, haven't seen how much $ has been awarded to KBR (Halliburton) to build detention camps in the U.S. yet :eek:

We got huge problems from my vantage point. Once a person believes 9/11 was an inside job like I do, other, seemingly ignorant based actions and decisions by our White House Admin make sense. They aren't stupid...they are criminally insane and America is intentionally being driven to a dictatroship. Dissenter's might as well make reservations to one of the finer detention camps now.

[kimosabi]

It's even worse that. Between 2004 and 2006, they were awarded 335 mil and no telling how much in 2007. http://www.fedspending.org/fpds/fpds.php?parent_id=38113&sortby=u&detail=-1&datype=T&reptype=r&database=fpds&fiscal_year=&submit=GO

Dr. Paul would deep six them for sure. Blackwater security personnel are trained to be cold blooded killers. They are mercenaries and they are bound to no laws in Iraq.

I am aware of two huge training facilities at the moment. One in North Carolina and one in Virginia. I am also aware of them expanding their operations and are looking right here in Washington State (Shelton, Wa) to put in another training facility amd probably in other areas of the U.S.

The fact that the U.S. is using these people is utterly abhorant. Even worse, is I suspect when the U.S. is forced into a police state, these will be some of the people who will be taking control of the masses. People who yet understand the imminent danger we are in by our very own Government, haven't seen how much $ has been awarded to KBR (Halliburton) to build detention camps in the U.S. yet :eek:

We got huge problems from my vantage point. Once a person believes 9/11 was an inside job like I do, other, seemingly ignorant based actions and decisions by our White House Admin make sense. They aren't stupid...they are criminally insane and America is intentionally being driven to a dictatroship. Dissenter's might as well make reservations to one of the finer detention camps now.

Apparently many of these people aren't even Americans, and thus wouldn't have any qualms about killing Americans.

What a great plan, import an Army from overseas, and ship your own Army overseas so that they can't protect their own countrymen from fascism...

[Mattsa]

One statistic that I found regarding private contractors in Iraq is the company who are responsible for doing the laundry for the US forces over there

They are charging the US government $99 for every bag of laundry that gets washed. The soldiers have been told very forcefully that all their laundry must be done by this company. They are not to do their own washing or to give their laundry to any other contractor or company out there

And guess which company is contracted to offer this service?????

Yep!

Halliburton!

Does that make you angry of what!!!!

[Action Patriot]

They aren't stupid...they are criminally insane and America is intentionally being driven to a dictatroship. Dissenter's might as well make reservations to one of the finer detention camps now.

I concur

[CJLauderdale4]

Due to Posse Comitatus, the military cannot be used on American soil against US Citizens. Thus, the Fed will hire paramilitary guys to do the dirty work for them.

Not a trying to be a conspiracy theorist, but these could be the guys that escort us to the labor camps that are being built.

Hold tight to that right to bear arms....we might need it again after all...


Now, all we need is a major domestic emergency...

[PatriotOne]

Apparently many of these people aren't even Americans, and thus wouldn't have any qualms about killing Americans.

What a great plan, import an Army from overseas, and ship your own Army overseas so that they can't protect their own countrymen from fascism...


I was listening to a video a couple weeks ago by Phil Schneider, and he briefly spoke of foreign "security" personal being trained in the U.S. for future "police state" activities.

It reminded me of something I thought strange at the time. 5 or 6 years I ago, myself and some irlfriends were have an evening out on the town. We were at a bar when about a dozen men walked in together and sat at a reserved table. They caused quite a stir amongst the females in the bar because they were quite good looking and built to the hilt (guys like that don't usually run in packs ;) )

Anyways, one of them took a shine to me so I got to know the group somewhat through their translator. Other than the translator, they all spoke Russian. They were from Latvia and training at a facility called HAMMER. Amongst other things, HAMMER does security personnel training (the word security takes on a whole different meaning for me now :eek: ).

From the brief description of who they were (they were some sort of security company with a 3 letter acronym that I can't remember) and what they were here training for, it caused me to question if they were similar to what I would think of as the old KGB. He said they didn't call them that anymore, but that yes, it was similar.

I thought at the time it was really strange that Russia would go to the expense of sending their personnel here for training. The HAMMER facility is very expensive, on top of all the expenses of flights and accomodations for these people for 2 weeks. There were many more than just the dozen that were at the bar.

Surely Russia has it's own security/police training facilities? Why would they spend so much $ sending them to HAMMER in the U.S. Why would the U.S. allow Russian's to train these kind of people on American soil? That's what I thought at the time, but didn't ask the question....not that they would of probably even known the answer. It's not like most people get trained for this sort of stuff knowing the endgame purpose of their training.

These people were headed back to Russia after their training but I now wonder if they are subjected to "recall" here in the states.

[PatriotOne]

This might be interesting for those wanting to know more about Blackwater.

Outsourcing the War
Jeremy Scahill


Editor's Note: Jeremy Scahill, bestselling author and investigative reporter for The Nation, testified May 10 before the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense on the impact of private military contractors on the conduct of the Iraq War. This is the full text of his remarks.

Jeremy Scahill Testifies on Defense Contracting to the House Panel, 5.10.2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdk4dIXqs7s&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ethenation%2Ecom%2Fdoc%2F20 070528%2Fscahill


My name is Jeremy Scahill. I have submitted my full remarks and request they be entered into the record. I am an investigative reporter for The Nation magazine and the author of the book Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army. I have spent the better part of the past two and a half years researching privatized warfare. I have interviewed scores of sources, filed many Freedom of Information Act requests, obtained government contracts and private company documents of firms operating in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

As this Committee is well aware, we are now in the midst of the most privatized war in the history of our country. This is hardly a new phenomenon, but it is one that has greatly accelerated since the launch of the "global war on terror" and the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Many Americans are under the impression that the US currently has about 145,000 active duty troops on the ground in Iraq. What is seldom mentioned is the fact that there are at least 126,000 private personnel deployed alongside the official armed forces. These private forces effectively double the size of the occupation force, largely without the knowledge of the US taxpayers that foot the bill.

[drinkbleach]

I think Dr Paul would hire them to root out Bin Laden so we wouldn't have to put actual troops on Islamic soil.

I don't think he would hire contractors to do it. He might order the legitimate military to do that though.

[denvervoipguru]

http://www.venusproject.com/ethics_in_action/Blackwater_Mercenaries.html

[ratsbew]

They are charging the US government $99 for every bag of laundry that gets washed. The soldiers have been told very forcefully that all their laundry must be done by this company. They are not to do their own washing or to give their laundry to any other contractor or company out there


Yeah, and it smells like crap when it comes back.

[Ira Aten]

I do know from studying history, that the reason our Founding Fathers didn not want a "standing army" is because in the late 1700's armies were made up from hired mercenaries, "contracted for" by a government.

They were usually made up of thieves, cutthroats, and the dregs of society.
The idea of the Militia, was that the Militia would be made up of local people serving to "enforce the laws of the Union" (as referenced in Article I Sect. 8) and that they would naturally care more for civilians in an area, since those people would be who they would answer to, if they committed any illegal or illicit acts in that area during service.

This "hired" army thing is almost as Unconstitutional as the "North American Partnership Agreement" treaty which the Bush Administration "made" in defiance of Article II, Sec. II, back in August of 2005 in my opinion.

I am certainly glad I am not the only person aware of the situation. Any idea why people like Sen. John Cornyn, and Senator Kay Bailey Hutchsion have absolutely NOTHING to say about this matter, or that of the matter of the unconstitutionality of the "North American Partnership Agreement/Treaty?"

Why is our Nation's Representative Republic, and the Supreme Law of the Land being usurped by our own employees?

[PatriotOne]

I am certainly glad I am not the only person aware of the situation. Any idea why people like Sen. John Cornyn, and Senator Kay Bailey Hutchsion have absolutely NOTHING to say about this matter, or that of the matter of the unconstitutionality of the "North American Partnership Agreement/Treaty?"

Why is our Nation's Representative Republic, and the Supreme Law of the Land being usurped by our own employees?

The answer to that question is where a person has to break away from conventional analysis and start probing into the really scary parts of what these criminals are really capable of. Most of those things they have labled as "cnspiracy theories" are really nothing more than our governments dirty laundry that they really expend alot of time and money hiding.

I can point you in the right direction but I warn you, it get's really ugly. The truth is stranger than fiction:

Thoughrougly research:

MK Ultra Mind control

The Franklin Cover Up (this is a pedophile ring that was used to blackmail politicians into voting for these leaders political agenda's by tricking somewhat honest politicians using alchohol and drugs and then enticing themto have sex with children while secretly filming them for blackmail material).

Then there is just plain old pay-offs that many are susceptible to.

Then there is other forms of blackmail.

Then when one's starts to research the Illuminati and New World Order (not conspriacy theories...these do exist) then the big picture of how most of our politicians and judges, etc., seems to be going along with ruining America, then the big picture of how it's being done, will make sense.

Warning....it' horrifying research but explains alot :eek: The Global Elite, Shadow Government, or whatever you want to call them, aren't stupid...they are criminally insane and our blackmailing those who aren't!

[Ira Aten]

Dear Patriot One:

Oh, I am aware of the "Conspiracy against God and Man" by Adam Wieshaupt et al.

I have no doubt the Illuminati exists today. Hell, they will tell you they do. I have no doubt that Rick Perry recently went to the Bilderberg meeting, as what I beleive to be, a reward for his efforts to build the "Trans Texas Corridor" portion of the NAFTA Superhighway referred to in U.S. House Res. No. 40 of the 110th Congress.

What I cannot understand is why someone who seems so intellectually vapid as Ms. Hutchsion, who stood by and said "...I don't seem to understand why we need this Trans Texas Corridor" can wind up ignoring the THOUSANDS of emails, letters, and phone calls about the NAU, and the TTC, and still be in office.

No, I believe you when you say there is an Illuminati, and yes I agree it is pernicious. I just don't understand how we stand by and allow them to begin building the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" by way of an Unconstitutional treaty agreement.