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Origanalist
10-25-2012, 02:38 PM
Paul Bedard;



In another potential blow for the president's Ohio reelection campaign, Jeep, the rugged brand President Obama once said symbolized American freedom, is considering giving up on the United States and shifting production to China.

Such a move would crash the economy in towns like Toledo, Ohio, where Jeeps are made and supplied, and rob the community of the economic security they thought Obama's auto bailout assured them.

Obama is such a fan of Jeep that he included a picture of himself speaking at the Toledo plant in his newly released second term agenda binder. In his address to the plant in 2011, Obama said, "I just took a short tour of the plant and watched some of you putting the finishing touches on the Wrangler. Now, as somebody reminded, I need to call it the 'iconic' Wrangler. And that's appropriate because when you think about what Wrangler has always symbolized. It symbolized freedom, adventure, hitting the open road, never looking back."

Well it appears that the taxpayer bailed-out Chrysler is looking back and now considering cutting costs by shifting production of all Jeeps to China, which has a strong desire for Jeeps.

In a Bloomberg interview, Jeep's president said the automaker plans to restore Jeep production in China, suspended in 2009, and is considering making all Jeeps in China. "Fiat SpA, majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers' operations in the region," reported the business wire service.

Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia and president of the Jeep brand, told Bloomberg, "We're reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity" as well as "should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio" to China.

Chrysler builds Jeep SUV models at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio. Manley said the firm is in talks with China's Guangzhou Automobile Group Co.


http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2511703#.UIlutq5eJ2K

Lucille
10-25-2012, 02:54 PM
http://media.reason.com/mc/_external/2012_10/regulatory-costs.png?h=354&w=470

Told ya! (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?392973-The-government-is-stealing-our-jobs!)

Origanalist
10-25-2012, 02:59 PM
http://media.reason.com/mc/_external/2012_10/regulatory-costs.png?h=354&w=470

Told ya! (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?392973-The-government-is-stealing-our-jobs!)

So you did. What's next, Levi's???? Oh wait.....

Lucille
10-25-2012, 03:01 PM
So you did. What's next, Levi's???? Oh wait.....

Don't even get me started on those POS jeans (https://getsatisfaction.com/levis/topics/levi_501_hole_in_crotch)! So sad. They used to be the best. This is not my photo, but this is the same problem we have:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/satisfaction-production/s3_images/691581/levis_501_inline.jpg

We have even more than that!

acptulsa
10-25-2012, 03:09 PM
So you did. What's next, Levi's???? Oh wait.....

Guess Converse shoes wil be next. Oh, wait...

Origanalist
10-25-2012, 03:15 PM
Guess Converse shoes wil be next. Oh, wait...

Lol, the list get's pretty long. Tried to buy a shovel made in America lately?

Origanalist
10-25-2012, 03:18 PM
Don't even get me started on those POS jeans (https://getsatisfaction.com/levis/topics/levi_501_hole_in_crotch)! So sad. They used to be the best. This is not my photo, but this is the same problem we have:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/satisfaction-production/s3_images/691581/levis_501_inline.jpg

We have even more than that!

Looks just like the last fifty pairs of mine, don't buy them anymore. If you're going to get cheap shit jeans, might as well buy Dickies for thirteen bucks a pair.

Anti Federalist
10-25-2012, 03:41 PM
Guess Converse shoes wil be next. Oh, wait...

Well, I could forget my troubles and watch some TV. Oh, wait...

Origanalist
10-25-2012, 03:54 PM
Well, I could forget my troubles and watch some TV. Oh, wait...

Feeling nostalgic?

http://images.craigslist.org/3E13Lc3M45I55Ka5Jfcap0184a0cf360c1a07.jpg

http://images1.showmethead.com/nlarge/magnavox_console_stereo_record_player_nw_okc_for_1 00_21587768.jpg

Tod
10-25-2012, 06:18 PM
rebuff article with more info:


No, Jeep isn’t moving any factories or production to China

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/no-jeep-isn-t-moving-factories-production-china-205828426.html

jkr
10-25-2012, 06:50 PM
remember, he saved the AUTO INDUSTRY

Origanalist
10-25-2012, 07:05 PM
rebuff article with more info:


http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/no-jeep-isn-t-moving-factories-production-china-205828426.html

You can't believe everything you read on teh interwebs........:o

acptulsa
10-25-2012, 07:12 PM
remember, he saved the AUTO INDUSTRY

Yeah, nothing like having the American President sell Chrysler/Dodge/Briggs Body/New Process/Willys (Jeep)/American Motors to Fabricators of Italian Automobili at Turin. I know Chrysler needed a partner, needed international exposure, and had once been owned by the Germans. I know. But the whole concept is still, if you will, foreign to me.


You can't believe everything you read on teh interwebs........:o

Sure. But can you believe anything you read in the Washington Examiner?

kathy88
10-25-2012, 07:13 PM
I hope it's not true. I'm on my fifth Jeep. I LOVE them.

acptulsa
10-25-2012, 07:17 PM
I hope it's not true. I'm on my fifth Jeep. I LOVE them.

So, do you have a real Jeep, is it an off-road Jeep, or is it a minivan-chassis Jeep?

I'm old enough to remember a time when the name Jeep was enough to ensure that the four wheel drive was designed for rocks, not just snow...

Origanalist
10-25-2012, 07:21 PM
"Sure. But can you believe anything you read in the Washington Examiner? "

I'm sure yes, but it's a good idea to check before you do. (says the guy who just posted their article)

kathy88
10-25-2012, 07:59 PM
So, do you have a real Jeep, is it an off-road Jeep, or is it a minivan-chassis Jeep?

I'm old enough to remember a time when the name Jeep was enough to ensure that the four wheel drive was designed for rocks, not just snow...

Grand Cherokee Sport at the moment, but it will go places you wouldn't think. I've had off road. Don't do too much off roading these days. Grocery store and ballet classes. LOL.

roho76
10-25-2012, 08:01 PM
Well they aren't going anywhere for a few years. I just finished programming the engine compartment and the floor pan the other day and it's being shipped to Toledo as we speak. I need to be down there in a couple of weeks to set it back up.

acptulsa
10-25-2012, 08:10 PM
Grand Cherokee Sport at the moment, but it will go places you wouldn't think. I've had off road. Don't do too much off roading these days. Grocery store and ballet classes. LOL.

That one would be a real Jeep.


Well they aren't going anywhere for a few years. I just finished programming the engine compartment and the floor pan the other day and it's being shipped to Toledo as we speak. I need to be down there in a couple of weeks to set it back up.

After 102 years, I'm not sure Toledo, Ohio would still be Toledo without that plant. It's almost as old as the Mud Hens.

roho76
10-25-2012, 08:16 PM
After 102 years, I'm not sure Toledo, Ohio would still be Toledo without that plant. It's almost as old as the Mud Hens.

The old plant is gone and the new one looks like all the others so the nostalgia is gone. It would kill the brand if they did this.

satchelmcqueen
10-25-2012, 09:07 PM
i worked at levis for 7 years in georgia. my plant was one of the last 3 left in the usa before they shut us all down in 2002. i can tell you for a fact that levis went to cheaper denim around 1999. they screwed all of us real good when they left.
Don't even get me started on those POS jeans (https://getsatisfaction.com/levis/topics/levi_501_hole_in_crotch)! So sad. They used to be the best. This is not my photo, but this is the same problem we have:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/satisfaction-production/s3_images/691581/levis_501_inline.jpg

We have even more than that!

Anti Federalist
10-25-2012, 10:01 PM
i worked at levis for 7 years in georgia. my plant was one of the last 3 left in the usa before they shut us all down in 2002. i can tell you for a fact that levis went to cheaper denim around 1999. they screwed all of us real good when they left.

Common denominator in almost all these outsourcing incidents.

Tod
10-25-2012, 11:21 PM
Common denominator in almost all these outsourcing incidents.

That is the purpose of outsourcing.