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qh4dotcom
10-23-2012, 04:23 AM
Your thoughts?

http://news.yahoo.com/romney-biden-administration-could-happen-223736689--abc-news-politics.html

mad cow
10-23-2012, 05:03 AM
Real Clear Politics has an interactive electoral map that is very easy to play with and I have arrived at this scenario a few times without being ridiculous,like giving Romney California or Obama Texas.
It would make for a very entertaining election,probably the most we could hope for at this point.

jmdrake
10-23-2012, 05:24 AM
Real Clear Politics has an interactive electoral map that is very easy to play with and I have arrived at this scenario a few times without being ridiculous,like giving Romney California or Obama Texas.
It would make for a very entertaining election,probably the most we could hope for at this point.

Yeah. I would love that simply because it would piss off both sides.

Pericles
10-23-2012, 06:14 AM
Your thoughts?

http://news.yahoo.com/romney-biden-administration-could-happen-223736689--abc-news-politics.html

Whoever came up with that has not read the 12th Amendment. The Electoral College vote is now split and the vote for President and VP are two votes. A tie for President gets sent to the House, then a tie for VP would get sent to the House. The same part is going to win both votes in the House.

acptulsa
10-23-2012, 12:34 PM
Just more 'This blowout is closer than it appears so pay attention and get involved and don't vote for that Libertarian Party because we don't want it to have ballot access' poppycock.

sailingaway
10-23-2012, 12:36 PM
The fact that they fit together so well shows what a joke the 'two' party illusion is.

Romney's foreign policy advisers would LOVE having Biden as VP. The sponsor of the pre 9/11 version of the Patriot Act??? I can just imagine their drool....

Zippyjuan
10-23-2012, 01:12 PM
The Twelfth Amendment: http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxii

The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

James Madison
10-23-2012, 01:29 PM
Obama should win at least one district in Nebraska. 270-268

DeMintConservative
10-23-2012, 01:46 PM
Whoever came up with that has not read the 12th Amendment. The Electoral College vote is now split and the vote for President and VP are two votes. A tie for President gets sent to the House, then a tie for VP would get sent to the House. The same part is going to win both votes in the House.77

Nope, the Senate elects the VP.

I think maybe the GOP can get Manchin or Landrieu to vote for Paul Ryan in such a scenery. Using the "I'm representing my constituents will" excuse. Although this would mean they'd be voting themselves to be in the minority... Not likely, a Manchin party switch would probably be necessary. Perhaps cut a deal with a few Senate democrats and get the electors to go faithless and vote for a moderate Democrat like Evan Bayh or someone like that. Of course, this is all moot if the Dems keep a substantial minority or if Obama/Biden win the popular vote.

DeMintConservative
10-23-2012, 01:47 PM
Obama should win at least one district in Nebraska. 270-268

Huh? He won't even come close this time around. I give Romney better odds of winning Maine 2nd CD.

James Madison
10-23-2012, 01:49 PM
Huh? He won't even come close this time around. I give Romney better odds of winning Maine 2nd CD.

Omaha.

DeMintConservative
10-23-2012, 02:10 PM
Omaha.

I know the district. Romney will win it by high single digits minimum. Obama won it narrowly 4 years ago - 2000 votes IIRC - but the district was gerrymandered and is now more Republican. Plus, the element of surprise is gone.

Jingles
10-23-2012, 02:27 PM
It wouldn't matter if Romney, Biden, Obama, or Ryan were in either the president or vp slots in any order. The same things would occur regardless who is where, what, and when...

alucard13mmfmj
10-23-2012, 03:04 PM
if this happened.. its perfect for people to see that the 2 parties are actually 1. lol.

dbill27
10-23-2012, 04:20 PM
I'd like to see an obama-romney ticket. It would be amusing to me.

DeMintConservative
10-23-2012, 04:27 PM
Huh? He won't even come close this time around. I give Romney better odds of winning Maine 2nd CD.

And as I wrote that:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/23/first-on-cnn-romney-super-pac-buys-tv-time-in-maine/


Boca Raton, Florida (CNN) - Restore Our Future, the Super PAC supporting Mitt Romney, has reserved television airtime in Maine beginning later this week, according to a Republican source tracking media buys.

The group plans to air $300,000 worth of ads in the Bangor, Presque Isle and Portland-Auburn markets

The move suggests Romney allies see Maine's 2nd Congressional District, which encompasses the state's northern reaches, as fertile ground for the Republican.

RonPaulFanInGA
10-23-2012, 05:00 PM
Every four years, bored journalists and whatnot write about the not-happening brokered convention (primaries) and 269-269 electoral college split (general). It's tedious.

Aratus
10-24-2012, 07:31 AM
but it could happen...

Pericles
10-24-2012, 11:20 AM
a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators,

Without 67 Senators present, there can not be a vote for VP. Who do you think will show up in order to lose?