Am I Free to Go?

[donnay]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfGMRjtv7DU&feature=player_embedded


Yay! for Patriots exercising their 4th amendment right.

[KCIndy]

I'm glad they were released that quickly. These days, that definitely counts as a win.

And one other thing? At the very start of the video, as they're pulling up to the check point, a semi truck is visible out the front window to the right. (White tractor with a dark stripe, and a dark trailer with indecipherable printing on it, parked at an angle). You can't see it on this video, but the side of the trailer has a list of how many vehicles and how many pounds/tons of drugs have been confiscated by the 'valiant heroes' of the U.S. Border Patrol. I'm assuming the semi tractor and trailer were confiscated, as well..... more victims of the insane "war" on drugs.

There's a similar tractor-trailer display at every check point I've seen. :(

[liberty2897]

Excellent video! I loved every second of it.

[phill4paul]

We heard an archaic saying about how FREE Americans were.

"Am I FREE to go?" sums up then and now. Some people accuse me of living in the past. I think that will lead to trouble in the future.

[Czolgosz]

He handled that perfectly.

[LibertyEagle]

Great video.

[RickyJ]

What if he wasn't a US citizen? If all he had to do was say he was and they let him through, then just exactly what good is their job doing? Seems like a waste of tax payer money to me.

[phill4paul]

''scuse me. Get out of my fookin' way."

Oh, no. Can't say that. Now can you? You little prole you.

[youngbuck]

He who has balls (figuratively) has rights.

[JK/SEA]

just tell em your a relative of Hitler...automatic free pass.

[Anti Federalist]

''scuse me. Get out of my fookin' way."

Oh, no. Can't say that. Now can you? You little prole you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKhUZ5kOagk

[Keith and stuff]

Awesome! Keep up the great work. It is ironic that the person with English as a 2nd language is lecturing the American on the US Constitution.

[dillo]

America where a mexican immigrant can ask a person driving in texas if they are a us citizen

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

America where a mexican immigrant can ask a person driving in texas if they are a us citizen
hahahahahaha

[donnay]

Awesome! Keep up the great work. It is ironic that the person with English as a 2nd language is lecturing the American on the US Constitution.

That was my first thought too! Not to mention this border was 30 miles in the country. The creeping border/Constitutional Free Zones are something most Americans need to start taking notice of.

http://www.onejozef.com/Constitution_Map.jpg

[Kelly.]

That was my first thought too! Not to mention this border was 30 miles in the country. The creeping border/Constitutional Free Zones are something most Americans need to start taking notice of.



i was under the impression that within this "zone", IMMIGRATION check points can be setup for the sole purpose of checking immigration. (supreme court upheld this)
the checkpoint is legal (IE, you must stop), but once you are stopped at the check point, they need suspicion of an immigration violation or other crime to proceed any further. without probable cause or your consent they arent allowed to search you at a immigration check point.


obviously most of these checkpoints are for general crimes (as is evident by the drug dog, wanted posters etc etc), and thus unconstitutional (not that unconstitutional means much anymore...)

[EBounding]

What sucks is even though he's asserting his rights, he still got the "visual pat-down".

Here's another favorite of mine:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILqc0DMh84k

[DGambler]

THAT. WAS. FREAKING. AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

[presence]

Usually before the third time I ask, "Am I free to go?" ...I throw in a, "Do you recycle?"

[donnay]

i was under the impression that within this "zone", IMMIGRATION check points can be setup for the sole purpose of checking immigration. (supreme court upheld this)
the checkpoint is legal (IE, you must stop), but once you are stopped at the check point, they need suspicion of an immigration violation or other crime to proceed any further. without probable cause or your consent they arent allowed to search you at a immigration check point.


The Supreme Court gave the State more power--they simply make things up in order to harass people anymore. Especially those who exercise their rights. The lords and masters don't like anyone who talks back to them. It is all about control. It is tyranny any way you slice it.

Our borders are clear--the encroachment of the borders 50 to 100 miles inland are egregious. I do not give a damn what the Supreme Court ruled, they are wrong. It's the same premise they started with DUI checkpoints, an altruistic attempt to keep drunks off the road, now, it is gone to extracting blood from people at these checkpoints to prove they are not drunk, in some states. Guilty until proven innocent.

[coastie]

I'm glad they were released that quickly. These days, that definitely counts as a win.

And one other thing? At the very start of the video, as they're pulling up to the check point, a semi truck is visible out the front window to the right. (White tractor with a dark stripe, and a dark trailer with indecipherable printing on it, parked at an angle). You can't see it on this video, but the side of the trailer has a list of how many vehicles and how many pounds/tons of drugs have been confiscated by the 'valiant heroes' of the U.S. Border Patrol. I'm assuming the semi tractor and trailer were confiscated, as well..... more victims of the insane "war" on drugs.

There's a similar tractor-trailer display at every check point I've seen. :(

Wonder why they never mention how much gets through?;)

[coastie]

Both of those guys shouldn't be any where near law enforcement.

I like how the immigrant was putting on his mean face.....:mad: "Tell me":mad: LMFAO

I almost want to go troll some cops now, but I have no camera at the moment, and my Droid camera is absolute garbage, 1080p my ass, I've had old 300 pound dial TV's that had better picture quality than that thing puts out.:mad:

[QuickZ06]

This ones for the guy excessing his rights.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMxfbkj2dLk

[donnay]

I couldn't resist posting this. :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWO_AIh8drk

[jbauer]

Where are they buying those cammeras? I'd love to put a dash mounted cammera in my car to record everything around me including any cop stops.

[Kelly.]

Where are they buying those cammeras? I'd love to put a dash mounted cammera in my car to record everything around me including any cop stops.
i have also been looking into a camcorder that can be used to video tape state encounters.
this might help: http://www.newegg.com/Pocket-Camcorders/SubCategory/ID-802

im not sure which camera these folks are using specifically, but i think any modern camera will work.



donnay -
i bring up the check point being "legal" part only because i believe that information must be known, and presented to the agent.
the agent will likely not know that he is breaking the law until you tell him. once you inform him and they continue (especially if you have a camera going) there is nothing they can do.
i think the agents are getting more and more hip to this though.
i saw a ~27 min video of a guy held up at a checkpoint for refusing to submit, he was finally let go. (not sure if that has been posted, i cant see videos at work). i also learned some things from the https://www.checkpointusa.org/ videos.

ill try to find the videos im referring to (if they arent posted here already) and post them so others see what im referring to.

[Kelly.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFS7oZtE8Ks&feature=player_embedded#

[presence]

I almost want to go troll some cops now, but I have no camera at the moment

Am I free to go?
What's your name and badge number?
Am I free to go?
Do you support gay marriage?
Am I free to go?
Do you recycle?
Am I free to go?
Did you enjoy police academy?
Am I free to go?
Is that a real gun?
Am I free to go?
Can I see your badge? Wow that's fancy!
Am I free to go?
Can I talk to your supervisor?
Am I free to go?
Am I under arrest?
Am I free to go?
Do you need me to jump start your squad car or something?
Am I free to go?
Can I make a confession? Cool, I have nothing to confess, but cool.
Am I free to go?
Do you pick up a lot of women this way?
Am I free to go?

[fr33]

Where are they buying those cammeras? I'd love to put a dash mounted cammera in my car to record everything around me including any cop stops.Here's a good one http://freedomcam.net/

[PaulConventionWV]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfGMRjtv7DU&feature=player_embedded


Yay! for Patriots exercising their 4th amendment right.

Apparently the officer who said he could stay there all day really couldn't... nice bluff. I bet the guy knew that as soon as he said it.

[Brian4Liberty]

They never seem to ask for a warrant or say that they have no probably cause to ask questions in any of these videos. Are there some kind of legal precedences that prevent that or make it a bad idea?

[PaulConventionWV]

Awesome! Keep up the great work. It is ironic that the person with English as a 2nd language is lecturing the American on the US Constitution.

"Are you a US citizen?" probably would have been a more valid question for the cop.

[PaulConventionWV]

That was my first thought too! Not to mention this border was 30 miles in the country. The creeping border/Constitutional Free Zones are something most Americans need to start taking notice of.

http://www.onejozef.com/Constitution_Map.jpg

Judging by that map, I bet Michigan has a real problem with those Canadian wetbacks.

[Kelly.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOotY-qLCY4&feature=plcp

[PaulConventionWV]

i was under the impression that within this "zone", IMMIGRATION check points can be setup for the sole purpose of checking immigration. (supreme court upheld this)
the checkpoint is legal (IE, you must stop), but once you are stopped at the check point, they need suspicion of an immigration violation or other crime to proceed any further. without probable cause or your consent they arent allowed to search you at a immigration check point.


obviously most of these checkpoints are for general crimes (as is evident by the drug dog, wanted posters etc etc), and thus unconstitutional (not that unconstitutional means much anymore...)

They stop people going BOTH ways at these checkpoints within 50 miles of the border. This is what Ron Paul meant when he said border control could be used to keep us IN. If they were only concerned about illegal immigrants, they would stop people coming away from the border and stop worrying about people going toward it.

[PaulConventionWV]

Where are they buying those cammeras? I'd love to put a dash mounted cammera in my car to record everything around me including any cop stops.

I would put one on the console or in the middle of the dashboard so they can't put their hand on it without diving through your window.

[PaulConventionWV]

They never seem to ask for a warrant or say that they have no probably cause to ask questions in any of these videos. Are there some kind of legal precedences that prevent that or make it a bad idea?

No, lots of videos show people asking for a warrant and probable cause. You must be watching the wrong videos.

[KCIndy]

I'm glad they were released that quickly. These days, that definitely counts as a win.

And one other thing? At the very start of the video, as they're pulling up to the check point, a semi truck is visible out the front window to the right. (White tractor with a dark stripe, and a dark trailer with indecipherable printing on it, parked at an angle). You can't see it on this video, but the side of the trailer has a list of how many vehicles and how many pounds/tons of drugs have been confiscated by the 'valiant heroes' of the U.S. Border Patrol. I'm assuming the semi tractor and trailer were confiscated, as well..... more victims of the insane "war" on drugs.

There's a similar tractor-trailer display at every check point I've seen. :(



Wonder why they never mention how much gets through?;)


HA!! I think we ALL know the answer to that one! :D

[jmdrake]

That "constitution free zone" takes up the entire states of Michigan, Florida and Maine.


That was my first thought too! Not to mention this border was 30 miles in the country. The creeping border/Constitutional Free Zones are something most Americans need to start taking notice of.

http://www.onejozef.com/Constitution_Map.jpg

[AGRP]

That "constitution free zone" takes up the entire states of Michigan, Florida and Maine.

I think it includes around 90% of the population.

[ZENemy]

So, the 16th amendment is not valid in this zone? lol



That "constitution free zone" takes up the entire states of Michigan, Florida and Maine.

[donnay]

donnay -
i bring up the check point being "legal" part only because i believe that information must be known, and presented to the agent.
the agent will likely not know that he is breaking the law until you tell him. once you inform him and they continue (especially if you have a camera going) there is nothing they can do.
i think the agents are getting more and more hip to this though.
i saw a ~27 min video of a guy held up at a checkpoint for refusing to submit, he was finally let go. (not sure if that has been posted, i cant see videos at work). i also learned some things from the https://www.checkpointusa.org/ videos.

ill try to find the videos im referring to (if they arent posted here already) and post them so others see what im referring to.

Kelly,

It is clearly a violation of our fourth and fifth amendment. They also have no business checking peoples papers 50 to 100 miles inland. I don't know about you, but I know my rights and I will exercise them every time. Resistance is our only hope now.


Drug Runners Freed Regularly on Border

Los Angeles Times SAN DIEGO -- During the federal government's yearlong narcotics crackdown along the Southwest border, hundreds of suspected smugglers have been allowed to go free after U.S. authorities arrested them with substantial quantities of drugs at ports of entry in California. In the past year, about 2,300 suspected traffickers were taken into custody for bringing drugs across the border but, according to records and interviews, more than one in four were simply sent home to Mexico because of jail overcrowding and prosecutorial discretion. Two suspects with 32 pounds of methamphetamine, and another with 37,000 Quaalude tablets, were simply "excluded" from the United States after their drugs and vehicles were confiscated. The handling of drug cases at the border, most involving at least 50 pounds of marijuana, reflects shifting and sometimes conflicting pressures on the federal law-enforcement community. The threshold for prosecutions, drug agents say, has risen as the government has stepped up narcotics interdiction at border crossings and made more seizures. In addition, they say there often is no room for drug suspects at the federal jail here because it is overflowing with people awaiting trial on immigration-law violations and other charges. After a seizure of 158 pounds of cocaine, one defendant was cited and released because there was no room at the federal jail, said the woman's attorney. The charges against her were later dropped, the attorney added. Officials at the U.S. attorney's office confirm that, under a program quietly adopted two years ago, an increasing number of suspected traffickers have been sent back to Mexico without arrest or prosecution in either federal or state court. Instead, they are prohibited from returning to this country, pending an immigration hearing. Government figures show that more than 1,000 smuggling suspects have been processed this way since 1994 after seizures by the U.S. Customs Service and the Border Patrol. The number of such cases rose from 215 in 1994 to 636 last year at San Ysidro, Tecate and Otay Mesa. There were 288 cases in the first four months of 1996 -- and officials project the total will reach more than 800 for the year. "This is, in our opinion, a powerful prosecutorial tool," Assistant U.S. Attorney John Kramer said in an interview. "Immigration exclusion cases principally involve first-time offenders who face the sanction of losing permanent residency in the United States or their border crossing cards." Justice Department and U.S. Customs Service officials have reported unprecedented drug seizures in the first year of Operation Hard Line, a anti-drug program along the entire border with Mexico. Last year, they said, total drug seizures from vehicles, cargo containers and pedestrians at all ports were up 25 percent over the previous year. "Generally, prosecution is deferred if the amount is below 125 pounds or if the defendant is a Mexican citizen or if, in the opinion of the prosecutor, it's not a strong case," said Jeff Casey, customs deputy special agent in charge in San Diego. U.S. Customs Service records reviewed by the Los Angeles Times show that some smugglers have been caught two or more times --even in the same week -- yet still were not jailed or prosecuted. In addition, no action was taken against a number of suspected smugglers captured with more than 125 pounds of marijuana.

http://border_patrol_rancor.tripod.com/index2.htm



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaA6GUQlwqA&feature=player_embedded

The Border Patrol cites federal laws permitting it to operate checkpoints and stop suspicious drivers. Establishing internal checkpoints has been a long-standing policy in Texas and California, states along the border with Mexico, as well as (less frequently) New York, Vermont and New Hampshire. The constitutionality of such laws, which clearly violate the Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures, has been challenged over the last several decades, but federal courts have consistently upheld the governments right to operate the checkpoints. The checkpoint issue reached the Supreme Court in 1976, which claimed that warrantless stops and searches do not violate the Constitution in areas near the border. However, civil liberties advocates in Texas, Arizona and California have aptly described the checkpoints as ever-expanding militarized zones. There are approximately 8000 Border Patrol agents on the US-Mexican border.
http://www.mothersagainstillegalaliens.org/?p=1186


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zQQCSwZwcA&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrtbNrQvNbM&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUHfyPylVL8&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1e7EBze6ho&feature=relmfu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT3K-Qb1WVU&feature=related

[Kelly.]

what i am trying to show is that the checkpoint is currently legal based on SCOTUS ruling.
that ruling says that the check point is only for checking for immigration violations.
so you HAVE to stop at the check point. Once you are stopped, you do not have to answer any questions, but if you do so, any suspicion that arises from that conversation, can trigger further searches. to my knowledge there is no law requiring you to answer the agents questions, only to stop at the checkpoint. (most people consent to searches, so this isnt necessary)
imo, these checkpoints are general crime prevention checkpoints as is evident by the drug dog and wanted posters.
so yes the check points are illegal, but knowing WHY they are illegal goes a long way when you are sitting at one, especially when the agent is trying to intimidate or move you to secondary.

im just trying to give some more info as to WHY they are illegal, as i dont think most understand it.

will watch the videos when i get home.
thanks for the reply

[presence]

That "constitution free zone" takes up the entire states of Michigan, Florida and Maine.

And the entire states of:

+New Hampshire
+Conneticut
+Rhode Island
+New Jersey
+Delaware
+Massachucets

And 90% of NY, MD, & VT