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Lucille
10-21-2012, 02:35 PM
He will.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/20/dont-bomb-the-foreign-policy-debate-mitt/


The third and final debate, focused on foreign policy, will be the most challenging yet, for Romney has committed himself to some deeply unpopular foreign policy positions.

Don’t be fooled by polls showing Romney gaining ground on Obama when it comes to handling international affairs. Between the first two debates, the Pew Research Center found that Obama’s foreign policy lead was down to 47 percent to 43 percent. That’s a significant turnaround from September when Romney trailed Obama on these issues by 15 points. But these numbers reflect the growing awareness that Romney isn’t the blithering incompetent pilloried by Obama attack ads as well as mounting evidence that strategically important parts of the world are, like the economy, impervious to the president’s charm.

When Romney complains, as he did in his recent address at the Virginia Military Institute, that the withdrawal from Iraq was too “abrupt,” he might as well be saying that the economic recovery has arrived too quickly. The average American doesn’t think it’s a bad thing that U.S. troops are out of Iraq. Most voters were ready for an Iraq exit five years before it finally came.
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Romney has similarly suggested that Obama is too quick to beat a retreat from Afghanistan — a primitive country where the U.S. has spent the past decade in a fruitless nation-building exercise, where the achievable military objectives were arguably accomplished years ago, and where the surge has failed to prevent local violence against American troops.

Nor will most people see much daylight between Romney’s promise to “pursue a real and successful transition to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014″ and the Obama strategy the Republican challenger calls “a politically timed retreat.”

When you throw in fresh Iran saber-rattling and a pledge to arm the Syrian rebels, one begins to wonder how many wars Romney wants at once.

By contrast, Obama will present himself as supremely judicious in the use of force, the president who has achieved the perfect balance between killing terrorists and giving peace a chance.

Obama will take credit for ending two wars while pretending to have never initiated a third and practically suggesting he personally strangled Osama bin Laden with his bare hands.

It’s not true, of course. While targeted killings of terrorist leaders may be preferable to large-scale invasions and occupations, too many drone strikes with a high error rate will do as much to inflame anti-American sentiment as anything George W. Bush ever did.

While Obama deserves credit for ordering the bin Laden strike, al Qaida remains more powerful than the administration advertises.

And while Romney flubbed his Libya exchange with Obama — with Candy Crowley’s help, of course — Benghazi was an unmitigated disaster from which the White House is still trying to extricate the president.

Then again, Romney was steamed that Obama didn’t intervene in Libya sooner.

Part of Romney’s problem is that the domestic policy fluency that helped him keep Obama at bay in the first two debates seemingly goes missing when the discussion moves abroad. He is reduced to cliches about not apologizing for America or leading from behind, which his cheering section routinely praises for moral clarity.

But the larger difficulty is that Romney remains wedded to the notion that “it is the responsibility of our president to use America’s great power to shape history,” rather than merely defend the United States.

It’s a role many Americans no longer want and the Constitution has never truly envisioned.

Romney is on the verge of a major comeback. Coming out too trigger-happy Monday night will strangle that comeback in the crib.

Brian4Liberty
10-21-2012, 03:55 PM
Romney might as well have John McCain stand in for him on this debate. McCain has more practice at going full retard. Or maybe Lindsey Graham, who was apparently Romney's representive today on Fox News Sunday.

thequietkid10
10-21-2012, 04:24 PM
He can't not bomb this debate. There are not very many differences between Obama and Romney foreign policy and yet it is the GOP mantra to make Obama look like a wimp

coastie
10-21-2012, 04:37 PM
Romney might as well have John McCain stand in for him on this debate. McCain has more practice at going full retard. Or maybe Lindsey Graham, who was apparently Romney's representive today on Fox News Sunday.


The same could be said about Obama. There's not a dime's worth a difference between the two when it comes to any policy.

Not like Americans really give a shit-it's all about Red/Blue team to them, policies/principles be damned. Gotta vote for the winner!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Brian4Liberty
10-22-2012, 12:48 PM
The same could be said about Obama. There's not a dime's worth a difference between the two when it comes to any policy.


Taking the rhetoric at face value, Romney has gone full neo-conservative. Obama and Biden still pay lip-service to limiting wars. In the VP Debate, Biden discounted much of the war-mongering about Iran, and said that Iran was not really the threat that it is made out to be. Of course that is just talk, but we do know that the Obama Administration has not yet started dropping bombs on Iran, or Syria for that matter. We don't know what a Romney administration would have done up to this point, or what they would do in the future. The only thing we do know for sure is that the rhetoric of war is there with Romney and Ryan, and his foreign policy team is shaping up to be extremely similar to the GW Bush team. Romney says that he will ask his lawyers and advisers before he takes action, but that is less of a comfort and more of a concern.

acptulsa
10-22-2012, 12:51 PM
Not like Americans really give a shit-it's all about Red/Blue team to them, policies/principles be damned. Gotta vote for the winner!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

You have two candidates who will do the exact same things. We had the debates where Obama's Blue Team talk was unpopular because people know we can't afford all his soon-to-be broken promises. Now we get the debate where Romney's Red Team talk will be unpopular. Which is why I'm still confident he'll lose this thing. Having this debate last pretty well guarantees it--unless, of course, they don't talk foreign policy during the foreign policy debate...

supermario21
10-22-2012, 12:54 PM
I don't think Romney is a full-out neocon. It just depends on which adviser writes his speech/gives him his points tonight on which Mitt we see. Lot's of articles have discussed the rift between his neocon advisers and those more noninterventionist.

georgiaboy
10-22-2012, 12:58 PM
Lot's (sic) of articles have discussed the rift between his neocon advisers and those more noninterventionist.

links, please?