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gravesdav
06-21-2007, 05:09 PM
Ralph Nader was on Hardball today. He was talking about considering a run. Matthews said I know you endorsed Ron Paul and he's probally not gonna win the GOP nomination, and Gravel doesn't have a chance so are you going to run. They even showed a picture of Ron Paul.
Nader said I wouldn't count them out and I think at least one of these guys will still be in the race in November.

AgentSmith
06-21-2007, 05:11 PM
Its not going to be Gravel, hes 'not running to win'.... ;)

Seer
06-21-2007, 05:14 PM
No, didn't you see him in the second debate? Gravel is runnning for real.

DjLoTi
06-21-2007, 05:15 PM
Mike Gravel:
Cash Available as of 12/31/2006 $3,269
Ron Paul:
Cash Available as of 03/31/2007 $524,919

I think we all know who will be pulling in more money come 2Q results.

angrydragon
06-21-2007, 05:16 PM
Gravel is in debt according to the latest numbers available.

AgentSmith
06-21-2007, 05:17 PM
No, didn't you see him in the second debate? Gravel is runnning for real.

Well hes admitted himself that hes mostly running to inject a message into the debate, not necessarily to win....

Mitt Romneys sideburns
06-21-2007, 05:17 PM
I dont know. Gravel DID pick up that giant rock. How old is he? Like 75? If hes going to throw a huge rock in a lake at his age, hes got to be in it to win it.

DjLoTi
06-21-2007, 05:17 PM
lol.. the rock video... man.... that's a joke ....

AgentSmith
06-21-2007, 05:18 PM
He had me at fire!

Tsoman
06-21-2007, 05:18 PM
Its not going to be Gravel, hes 'not running to win'.... ;)

I love it every time Ron Paul says he is running to win :D

jj111
06-21-2007, 05:20 PM
Mike Gravel:
Cash Available as of 12/31/2006 $3,269
Ron Paul:
Cash Available as of 03/31/2007 $524,919

I think we all know who will be pulling in more money come 2Q results.

Do you have a URL reference link for the numbers?

torchbearer
06-21-2007, 05:20 PM
yeh, nader was talking about paul. i think the consumer can benefit greatly from the free market.. perhaps nader is falling into that vein of thought too.

angrydragon
06-21-2007, 05:23 PM
Gravel

Raised: $15,534

Spent: $18,304

Cash On hand: $498

Debts: $88,516

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp?cycle=2008

hambone1982
06-21-2007, 06:11 PM
Let's be clear - Nader has not endorsed Paul. He has endorsed Gravel. He likes Paul, but has not endorsed him.

http://www.gravel2008.us/?q=node/1001

gravesdav
06-21-2007, 06:24 PM
Nader doesn't see eye to eye with Paul on a lot of issues. Liberals like him only want freedom for what they want like freedom in bedroom, legalizing drugs, but at the time want to ban smoking, get rid of fats, and limit the free market.
I like Nader just because he's an outsider and not afraid to stand up for what he believes, I think he applauds the same in Paul.

angelatc
06-21-2007, 06:26 PM
Gravel got me with "Who are you going to Nuke, Barak?"

woowoowoo22
06-21-2007, 06:37 PM
Mike Gravel:
Cash Available as of 12/31/2006 $3,269
Ron Paul:
Cash Available as of 03/31/2007 $524,919

I think we all know who will be pulling in more money come 2Q results.

Pinko Socialists don't have any money to contribute.

RP supporters are industrious and are smart with their money. We save a little and contribute what we can.

The rest get most of their money from special Interests and Corporations.

Bluedevil
06-21-2007, 06:41 PM
Ralph Nader is endorsing Ron Paul? This doesnt make any sense, they seem like complete opposites to me. Could someone help me understand.

specsaregood
06-21-2007, 06:48 PM
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literatim
06-21-2007, 06:53 PM
Nader is anti-Iraq War and pro-border enforcement.

Shmuel Spade
06-21-2007, 06:54 PM
Nader is NOT endorsing Paul, he's merely giving him a good word for his consistent principled stand.

Bradley in DC
06-21-2007, 08:08 PM
Ralph Nader is endorsing Ron Paul? This doesnt make any sense, they seem like complete opposites to me. Could someone help me understand.

Too funny. Um, I guess here is as good a place to confess as any: I voted for Nader last time and am as hardcore a Paul supporter as one can get ("found" him when he was in Congress and I was in high school looking for my philosophical home back in the early '80s, voted for him in 1988, was rooting for him in 1992 against Bush until Buchanan got in and Paul endorsed him and withdrew--yes, Dr. Paul was briefly running for the Republican presidential nomination then, and worked for him as a legislative aide from 1997-2001, and still do whatever I can for him.).

So, yes, there is a great deal of overlap. I know, I worked closely with the Naderites while working for Dr. Paul against corporate welfare (IMF, export subsidies, etc.), defending privacy and civil liberties, upholding the rule of law against the arbitrariness of government, against the drug war, supporting a more level playing field for third parties and independents, a healthy skepticism of the Federal Reserve, and against a militarily interventionist foreign policy, etc.

In fact, in the first election after 9/11, I thought a Lebanese-American giving interviews in Arabic on Middle Eastern TV would do more to make this country safer than any USA PATRIOT Acts, military invasions, etc., would ever achieve.

The Constitution Party was not on the ballot in DC and, no offense to anyone here, but I considered Badnarik a joke (just a personal opinion, not wanting to start a fight). So yes, I voted for Nader.

Incidentally, the guy de facto running Nader's race, a friendly colleague of mine, then ran for the Senate in Maryland as a "fusion" candidate of the Green, Libertarian, and I think it was the Populist parties.

angrydragon
06-21-2007, 08:15 PM
Hey Bradley, glad you're on our side.

Anyhow, I wonder if you seen some of the suggestions here on the forum. Maybe you can pass them along to Ron Paul and his team.

Ex: The DOE, explain how it's unneeded and ease the fears of people who worry about public eduction.

Tsoman
06-21-2007, 08:17 PM
I voted for Nader in 2004, just because I didn't want to vote for Kerry or Bush.

kalami
06-22-2007, 09:24 AM
The interview is on the front page of this site:
http://www.onegoodmove.org/1gm/

Captain Shays
06-22-2007, 09:43 AM
These are some of the things Nader has in common with Ron Paul

They both favor decentralization
They would both legalize Hemp
They are both opposed to corporate welfare.
They are both anti premptive wars.
They both see the two party system as a corrupt good ol boys club with the mainstream media enabling.
They both would alter the present "war on drugs" Not in the same way, but both wouldn't leave it the way it is.

peruvianRP
06-22-2007, 09:53 AM
I like Nader but not to change my vote from RP.

SeanEdwards
06-22-2007, 10:23 AM
What do you all think about Nader as a running mate? :eek:

BuddyRey
06-22-2007, 10:33 AM
What do you all think about Nader as a running mate? :eek:

I love it!!! With a bi-partisan ticket, it'd be easier to appeal to a broader base. Plus, it's always a good idea to surround yourself with people who disagree with you from time to time, which is what Lincoln was allegedly well-known for.

SeanEdwards
06-22-2007, 10:40 AM
In fact, in the first election after 9/11, I thought a Lebanese-American giving interviews in Arabic on Middle Eastern TV would do more to make this country safer than any USA PATRIOT Acts, military invasions, etc., would ever achieve.


Ich ben ein Berliner! Or whatever JFK said.

Yeah, I think this would be pure win. A US prez (or VP :D ) able to speak fluent arabic would do more for US security than any number of pre-emptive wars.

Tim724
06-22-2007, 11:32 AM
Incidentally, the guy de facto running Nader's race, a friendly colleague of mine, then ran for the Senate in Maryland as a "fusion" candidate of the Green, Libertarian, and I think it was the Populist parties.


Kevin Zeese?

V-rod
06-22-2007, 09:38 PM
A Ron Paul die hard supporter would never vote for Nader. That guy is on the other side of the spectrum from Paul! Did you ever see that 20/20 John Stossel interview he did with Nader in the late 90's? He basically agreed that we need way, way more regulation on everything in society so everyone can be safe.