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The Goat
10-17-2012, 01:37 PM
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Federal-Reserve-Bank-Plot-NYC-Terror--174628031.html


NBC 4 New York has learned that federal authorities have arrested a man they say was plotting to attack the Federal Reserve building in Lower Manhattan, just blocks from the World Trade Center site.

The man is in custody in New York. Sources tell NBC 4 New York that he lives on Long Island and was arrested Wednesday morning.

Law enforcement officials stress that the plot was a sting operation monitored by the FBI and NYPD and the public was never at risk.

Sources say the suspect was acting alone in the plot against the Fed, which is located at 33 Liberty St., three and 1/2 blocks from ground zero.

He is expected in court later Wednesday.


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shane77m
10-17-2012, 01:41 PM
entrapment???

TonySutton
10-17-2012, 01:48 PM
He was not acting alone. He was conspiring with the FBI and NYPD.

Just wait a couple of weeks and we will find out this man had no money and no bomb experience. He was most likely recruited off of some internet chat room or forum where he displayed some dislike for the government. From there he was groomed by the FBI and NYPD to do whatever he is charged with.

green73
10-17-2012, 01:50 PM
Another stooge. This time it has implications for the liberty movement.

Anti Federalist
10-17-2012, 02:11 PM
Another stooge. This time it has implications for the liberty movement.

Yup.

Only be a matter of time now.

KEEF
10-17-2012, 02:16 PM
So is the media going to try to tie the Liberty to this?

sailingaway
10-17-2012, 02:17 PM
The last two times they tried that they had egg on their faces when it turned out to be a left type, but they can try, I suppose.

wc01127
10-17-2012, 02:19 PM
They need a 'sting' like this every now and then to keep the uninformed Americans worried that people are going to get us again if we don't give the government more privacy powers, even though the FBI set the whole thing up from start to arrest.

fr33
10-17-2012, 02:21 PM
End the fed.

Lucille
10-17-2012, 02:22 PM
The criminal complaint against Nafis said he wrote a statement claiming responsibility for what he thought would be the Fed attack, saying he wanted to "destroy America" by going after its economy. He referred to "our beloved Sheikh Osama bin Laden" in the statement.

He shouldn't have bothered. The Obama admin., CONgress, and the Bernank have it covered.

S.Shorland
10-17-2012, 02:25 PM
They found another loner lunatic and entrapped him into this.If you can't find the terrorists you have to manufacture them.

Maltheus
10-17-2012, 02:28 PM
It's not a left type, he's supposedly al-Qaeda. Such an obvious set up to make this issue toxic.

juleswin
10-17-2012, 02:28 PM
It was only a matter of time before they entrapped another lackey into bombing the FED.

Phew, definitely not a liberty type. destroy American by bombing the FED?

FrancisMarion
10-17-2012, 02:28 PM
The criminal complaint against Nafis said he wrote a statement claiming responsibility for what he thought would be the Fed attack, saying he wanted to "destroy America" by going after its economy. He referred to "our beloved Sheikh Osama bin Laden" in the statement.

Well Golly, if them terrirists are going after it, then it must be good. Just like they tryin to take our freedom.

ctiger2
10-17-2012, 02:32 PM
FAKE
STAGED
FALSE FLAG
PHONEY
SHAM

Anti Federalist
10-17-2012, 02:33 PM
Well Golly, if them terrirists are going after it, then it must be good. Just like they tryin to take our freedom.

"Merica!!!

sailingaway
10-17-2012, 02:33 PM
It's not a left type, he's supposedly al-Qaeda. Such an obvious set up to make this issue toxic.

Sheesh. I guess I need to read up on this.

Not sure the Fed would want to play up that angle though, it might make people wonder why al Qaeda would possibly care.

Lucille
10-17-2012, 02:33 PM
Another Patsy Terrorist
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/123329.html


The FBI and NYPD recruited and trained some schnook to fake-bomb the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It's more of the phony, government-generated "terrorist under the bed" stuff that's supposed to make us shiver. It may also be an attempt to smear those who intellectually oppose the bankster temple.

tangent4ronpaul
10-17-2012, 02:34 PM
He was not acting alone. He was conspiring with the FBI and NYPD.

Just wait a couple of weeks and we will find out this man had no money and no bomb experience. He was most likely recruited off of some internet chat room or forum where he displayed some dislike for the government. From there he was groomed by the FBI and NYPD to do whatever he is charged with.

Alright guys... HEAD COUNT!

Who's missing... ???

-t

HOLLYWOOD
10-17-2012, 02:34 PM
Simply Incredible Propaganda:

Watching the FOX Fascism Feed reporting with Cavuto, of course have Ben Stein readied & loaded

Ben Stein,
"...'These People' have associations in the twisted minds of these terrorists, thinking it's the general conspiracies dominating the world, they think it's Jewish Money, they think this concentration of money is going to harm them is really sick... terribly ill about it. An idea that is positively Satanic bad." ... The Federal Reserve and New York money is about the Individual..."

Ben Stein,
"All over the world, there's these people, and they're saying, What the heck is it about the United States of America, that how America is so powerful and unsettling and relentless enemy. They come back, again and again, with the idea that money tracked back n forth on exchanges, somehow in their confused minds, that is what makes 'US' so powerful and so dangerous. Whereas it's really our ideas & appreciation of human nature... The idea of America which is the dignity of the individual... That's what's their real enemy. It's not money, it's the idea of the dignity of the individual, that's going to beat them."Cavuto,
"That's very well put... I talked to Mayor Bloomberg of sign of times about NY being a target. He said, Neil, when isn't it?"Ben Stein,
That's because there's so much power here, there's so much money here...end message, cut to commercial

Deborah K
10-17-2012, 02:36 PM
Setting the stage for another false flag....

Anti Federalist
10-17-2012, 02:37 PM
FAKE
STAGED
FALSE FLAG
PHONEY
SHAM

Fakey, phoney, fraud.

Lucille
10-17-2012, 02:38 PM
How many of those 15 were actually planned by the FBI et al.?


"Whether al Qaeda operatives like Iyman Faris or those inspired by them like Jose Pimentel, terrorists have tried time and again to make New York City their killing field. We're up to 15 plots and counting since 9/11, with the Federal Reserve now added to a list of iconic targets that previously included the Brooklyn Bridge, the New York Stock Exchange, and Citicorp Center. After 11 years without a successful attack, it's understanding if the public becomes complacent. But that's a luxury law enforcement can't afford. Vigilance is our watchword now and into the foreseeable future. That's why we have over 1,000 police officers assigned to counterterrorism duties every day, and why we built the Domain Awareness System. I want to commend the NYPD detectives and FBI agents of the Joint Terrorist Task Force for the work they did in the case and in other ways every day to help New York City safe from terrorists." said Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=8850791

Reminder: BE AFRAID!!!!

NYPD Unveils Orwellian ‘Domain Awareness System’
http://www.infowars.com/nypd-unveils-crime-and-terror-fighting-domain-awareness-system/

Czolgosz
10-17-2012, 02:39 PM
This government needs to go.

tangent4ronpaul
10-17-2012, 02:39 PM
Fakey, phoney, fraud.

At least they admitted it this time.

It's just like just about every other "terrorist" plot of the past 11 years - set up, planned, supplied and executed by the FBI.

-t

devil21
10-17-2012, 02:40 PM
Not this shit again? Ok look, it's pretty clear to me that there is no real terrorism going on in this country (overseas is a different story, however) and these alphabet agencies are purposely creating these incidents from start to finish to justify the huge budgets and ongoing police state rollout at home. The good news is that people are starting to pick up on this whole patsy scam the FBI is running. They're using the same tactics too much to be effective anymore.

Czolgosz
10-17-2012, 02:40 PM
The will put the public opinion "brakes" on with regard to auditing the Fed.

sailingaway
10-17-2012, 02:42 PM
The will put the public opinion "brakes" on with regard to auditing the Fed.

I'm not sure people in general are galvanized by a threat to the Fed.

CaptainAmerica
10-17-2012, 02:46 PM
In adolf hitlers time the nazis blamed the socialist/marxists for the plot and attack on the Reichstag,this is probably a similar lie.

Lucille
10-17-2012, 02:48 PM
Simply Incredible Propaganda:

Watching the FOX Fascism reporting with Cavuto, of course have Ben Stein readied & loaded

Ben Stein, "...'These People' have associations in the twisted minds of these terrorists, thinking it's the general conspiracies dominating the world, they think it's Jewish Money, they think this concentration of money is going to harm them is really sick... terribly ill about it. An idea that is positively Satanic bad." ... The Federal Reserve and New York money is about the Individual..."

Cavuto, "Very well put..."

The Fed Res and NY money is about the individual? Individual banksters maybe. It's certainly not about regular Americans. Oh and shut-up, Cavuto.


Ben Stein, "All over the world, there's these people, and they're saying, What the heck is it about the United States of America, that how America is so powerful and unsettling and relentless enemy. They come back, again and again, with the idea that money tracked back n forth on exchanges, somehow in their confused minds, that is what makes 'US' so powerful and so dangerous. Whereas it's really our ideas & appreciation of human nature... The idea of America which is the dignity of the individual... That's what's their real enemy. It's not money, it's the idea of the individual diginity that's going to beat them."

Like the "dignity" in blue-gloved govt goons fondling individual's genitalia every time they want to board a GD plane? That kind of individual dignity?

tangent4ronpaul
10-17-2012, 02:50 PM
Reminder: BE AFRAID!!!!

NYPD Unveils Orwellian ‘Domain Awareness System’
http://www.infowars.com/nypd-unveils-crime-and-terror-fighting-domain-awareness-system/

ehhh - I'm holding off putting in my application till this place becomes drone central. What fun is a job like that if you can't zoom in on rooftop nude sunbathers or peak into 36th story windows at couples doin' the wild thang? :rolleyes:

-t

Czolgosz
10-17-2012, 02:51 PM
I'm not sure people in general are galvanized by a threat to the Fed.

Agreed. It's only speculation on my part that something anti-fed was coming down the pike and this would be a win-win for the power elite to set public perception ahead of time.

tangent4ronpaul
10-17-2012, 02:54 PM
Not this shit again? Ok look, it's pretty clear to me that there is no real terrorism going on in this country (overseas is a different story, however) and these alphabet agencies are purposely creating these incidents from start to finish to justify the huge budgets and ongoing police state rollout at home. The good news is that people are starting to pick up on this whole patsy scam the FBI is running. They're using the same tactics too much to be effective anymore.

Yeppers! - and it's well documented!

remember this?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/fbi-terrorist-informants

-t

headhawg7
10-17-2012, 02:55 PM
This would be a good way to try and cast a negative light on any opponents of the FED. They already claim that the opponents of the FED and people like Ron Paul are kooks.

Deborah K
10-17-2012, 03:02 PM
ehhh - I'm holding off putting in my application till this place becomes drone central. What fun is a job like that if you can't zoom in on rooftop nude sunbathers or peak into 36th story windows at couples doin' the wild thang? :rolleyes:

-t

Be careful what you wish for.... Oklahoma is about to pass a law allowing drones to fly over. And, supposedly by 2015 drones will be legal in the private industry as well - which is how they're going to get away with it.

Warrior_of_Freedom
10-17-2012, 03:15 PM
A fake bomb plot by the state. Who are the real terrorists? I guess this now means whenever we speak ill of the federal reserve we're terrorists

GeorgiaAvenger
10-17-2012, 03:19 PM
Hey moron! The monetary base is all electronic, you can't blow it up!

Warrior_of_Freedom
10-17-2012, 03:28 PM
Waiting for them to say the man masterminded plotted the attack was Osama Ron Paul. "Paul has a long history of disagreeing with the Federal Reserve."

Ronulus
10-17-2012, 03:37 PM
His accomplices, the FBI, get rewarded for saving the day, excellent job gentleman. America couldn't be safe from fake terrorists if fake terrorism didn't exist.

nobody's_hero
10-17-2012, 03:37 PM
I was hoping the Federal Reserve would get some attention between now and november, but not like this. :(

tod evans
10-17-2012, 03:41 PM
Copied from The Innocence Project (http://www.innocenceproject.org/understand/Government-Misconduct.php).

While many law enforcement officers and prosecutors are honest and trustworthy, criminal justice is a human endeavor and the possibility for negligence, misconduct and corruption exists. Even if one officer of every thousand is dishonest, wrongful convictions will continue to occur.

DNA exonerations have exposed official misconduct at every level and stage of a criminal investigation.

Common forms of misconduct by law enforcement officials include:

• Employing suggestion when conducting identification procedures
• Coercing false confessions
• Lying or intentionally misleading jurors about their observations
• Failing to turn over exculpatory evidence to prosecutors
• Providing incentives to secure unreliable evidence from informants

Common forms of misconduct by prosecutors include:

• Withholding exculpatory evidence from defense
• Deliberately mishandling, mistreating or destroying evidence
• Allowing witnesses they know or should know are not truthful to testify
• Pressuring defense witnesses not to testify
• Relying on fraudulent forensic experts
• Making misleading arguments that overstate the probative value of testimony

Captain Shays
10-17-2012, 04:01 PM
It was only a matter of time before they entrapped another lackey into bombing the FED.

Phew, definitely not a liberty type. destroy American by bombing the FED?
Up is down. Black is white. Evil is good. War is Peace

Captain Shays
10-17-2012, 04:05 PM
These are key words from that piece.

"super surveillance database possible through a partnership between Microsoft and the city of New York"

So what other products made by Microsoft do we use that, the government can use to spy on us with that lovely partnership?

Captain Shays
10-17-2012, 04:10 PM
It was only a matter of time before they entrapped another lackey into bombing the FED.

Phew, definitely not a liberty type. destroy American by bombing the FED?

LOL. I won't say what we're both probably thinking

The Goat
10-17-2012, 04:23 PM
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/527561_534205486606279_1805666812_n.jpg

QuickZ06
10-17-2012, 04:26 PM
21 yo with 1,000lbs. of explosives......right.

paulbot24
10-17-2012, 04:32 PM
"our beloved Sheikh Osama bin Laden"? They might have trouble connecting this man with the Liberty movement. Wait. Never mind. Who are we talking about? Anything is possible.

DerailingDaTrain
10-17-2012, 04:35 PM
"our beloved Sheikh Osama bin Laden"? They might have trouble connecting this man with the Liberty movement. Wait. Never mind. Who are we talking about? Anything is possible.

This guy, the FBI's plot, his beliefs, etc. have nothing to do with us.

The Goat
10-17-2012, 04:39 PM
This guy, the FBI's plot, his beliefs, etc. have nothing to do with us.

We want to end the fed, he wanted to blow up the fed. that's close enough for us all to be indefinitely detained. XD

Philosophy_of_Politics
10-17-2012, 04:42 PM
"SUSPECTED" TERRORIST

DerailingDaTrain
10-17-2012, 04:46 PM
We want to end the fed, he wanted to blow up the fed. that's close enough for us all to be indefinitely detained. XD

No it isn't

Anti Federalist
10-17-2012, 04:51 PM
No it isn't

Yes, it is.

FrancisMarion
10-17-2012, 04:52 PM
This guy, the FBI's plot, his beliefs, etc. have nothing to do with us.

You are right.

Think about how this will translate to a % of the public. Read this again below. It will be repeated many times.


The criminal complaint against Nafis said he wrote a statement claiming responsibility for what he thought would be the Fed attack, saying he wanted to "destroy America" by going after its economy.

Attacking / Ending the Fed = Destroying / not saving America. Its a PR battle.

Anti Federalist
10-17-2012, 04:58 PM
The idea of America which is the dignity of the individual... That's what's their real enemy. It's not money, it's the idea of the dignity of the individual, that's going to beat them." - Ben Stein

Fuck you, Ben.

http://battlefieldusa.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/kelly-thomas-police-beating.jpg

We're all Kelly Thomas.

The millions of us, felt up at the airports, harrassed by cops, our lives threatened, our families ripped apart, our pets shot, our bones broken, our homes invaded, our bodies beaten and our lives snuffed out.

Monitored and tracked and herded like so many cattle.

Your statement is a sick fucking joke.

Fuck you, Ben, just fuck you.

DerailingDaTrain
10-17-2012, 05:01 PM
Yes, it is.

No

Captain Shays
10-17-2012, 05:03 PM
Fuck you, Ben.

http://battlefieldusa.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/kelly-thomas-police-beating.jpg

We're all Kelly Thomas.

The millions of us, felt up at the airports, harrassed by cops, our lives threatened, our families ripped apart, our pets shot, our bones broken, our homes invaded, our bodies beaten and our lives snuffed out.

Monitored and tracked and herded like so many cattle.

Your statement is a sick fucking joke.

Fuck you, Ben, just fuck you.
Fucking A man. In any other place you wouldn't get so many REPS. I'm glad you live here with us. Ya got another. REP+

We don't need to be connected to be connected. The feds will do all the connecting for us when they feel like it. When will people realize?. Our government has declared war on us. You and me in this liberty movement. How else can you explain them inserting in into their training manuals to watch out for people with Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader and Chuck Baldwin bumper stickers on their cars and, to watch out for people who carry a pocket Constitution and talk about freedom?

Anti Federalist
10-17-2012, 05:03 PM
No

Yes

DerailingDaTrain
10-17-2012, 05:04 PM
Yes

Are you posting from a prison cell?

Anti Federalist
10-17-2012, 05:07 PM
Fucking A man. In any other place you wouldn't get so many REPS. I'm glad you live here with us. Ya got another. REP+

We don't need to be connected to be connected. The feds will do all the connecting for us when they feel like it. When will people realize?. Our government has declared war on us. You and me in this liberty movement. How else can you explain them inserting in into their training manuals to watch out for people with Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader and Chuck Baldwin bumper stickers on their cars and, to watch out for people who carry a pocket Constitution and talk about freedom?

And there are some that, even if you smacked them in the face with those fed produced manuals, they would still refuse to believe.

You bet your ass we're being watched.

Dick Chaney
10-17-2012, 05:12 PM
Just a anti-liberty, pro-fed publicity stunt sponsored by the FBI. Nothing to see here.

Captain Shays
10-17-2012, 05:18 PM
And there are some that, even if you smacked them in the face with those fed produced manuals, they would still refuse to believe.

You bet your ass we're being watched.
I think at this point more than just being watched. Call me crazy but I think we're being countered. We're being planned for. We might be getting plotted against. The more influence we gain the stronger the opposition will be. Think about this for a minute. Let's say our dreams came true and everyone we told the truth to listened, believed and joined in to help us. Let's say the movement grew to majority proportions. Let's say we started to elect only liberty candidates. That our numbers were strong. Look who our enemy is. They control the media. They control the money. They are entrenched in government and the military and the police. So what levels will they go to if they're power structures are threatened in order to hold that power? My guess is that they would stop at nothing. But we also know it's easier to maintain power than to either lose it or gain it. So maintainence in this case is subverting us in subtlle ways with the intentisy of the pressure depending on what level of influence we're gaining.
Reality tells me that the powers that be have had their hooks in us for a couple generations now and have so hoodwinked the American mind that we'll even vote for our own cages and chains and masters that abuse us

Anti Federalist
10-17-2012, 05:18 PM
Are you posting from a prison cell?

Don't be stupid.

Just because mass arrests haven't happened yet, does not negate the fact that the laws to do just that are on the books.

JK/SEA
10-17-2012, 05:22 PM
Yes, it is.

sooner than later...

DerailingDaTrain
10-17-2012, 05:22 PM
Don't be stupid.

Just because mass arrests haven't happened yet, does not negate the fact that the laws to do just that are on the books.

I'm not being stupid. We are not advocating violence and therefore will not be arrested like this wannabe terrorist.

Captain Shays
10-17-2012, 05:23 PM
I'm not being stupid. We are not advocating violence and therefore will not be arrested like this wannabe terrorist.
We don't need to advocate violence in order for some people to find a way to associate us with it. Why can't you see that?

Captain Shays
10-17-2012, 05:31 PM
OK I'll be honest. I don't advocate violence but if some crazy terrorist killed every single fucking global banker in one fell swoop I wouldn't cry one tear. Those scumbags are responsible for more human suffering,more loss of freedom, more environmental degredation and, more loss of a country's sovereignty than ANY other force on the planet and if they all died tomorrow they would do the entire world a favor. Yes I'll come out and say it. The terrosits think they would be destroying our country and I think they would be saving our country. Trouble is, taking out one branch wouldn't put a dent in their power structures. There is no force on this planet that can take out the whole thing except our government/the body of the American people IF IF IF IF they ever wake the fuck up. It's too late. it will NEVER happen. We have YEARS. GENERATIONS of us who have been taught all the wrong things in government schools and the media is a bulwark against ANY movement getting started and against ANY candidate from ANY party gaining a foot hold. It's just time at this point in my opinion to find a place to hold out for when TSHTF and hope and pray that I don't get taken to a FEMA camp or murdered by my government in trying to avoid it

Cigaboo
10-17-2012, 05:31 PM
It's not a left type, he's supposedly al-Qaeda. Such an obvious set up to make this issue toxic.

If so, the irony is that the Al Quaeda agent would boost our economy by targeting our Federal Reserve ;P

DerailingDaTrain
10-17-2012, 05:36 PM
OK I'll be honest. I don't advocate violence but if some crazy terrorist killed every single fucking global banker in one fell swoop I wouldn't cry one tear. Those scumbags are responsible for more human suffering,more loss of freedom, more environmental degredation and, more loss of a country's sovereignty than ANY other force on the planet and if they all died tomorrow they would do the entire world a favor. Yes I'll come out and say it. The terrosits think they would be destroying our country and I think they would be saving our country. Trouble is, taking out one branch wouldn't put a dent in their power structures. There is no force on this planet that can take out the whole thing except our government/the body of the American people IF IF IF IF they ever wake the fuck up. It's too late. it will NEVER happen. We have YEARS. GENERATIONS of us who have been taught all the wrong things in government schools and the media is a bulwark against ANY movement getting started and against ANY candidate from ANY party gaining a foot hold. It's just time at this point in my opinion to find a place to hold out for then TSHTF and hope and pray that I don't get taken to a FEMA camp or murdered by my government in trying to avoid it

http://i33.tinypic.com/1tpwy8.jpg

I want to end the Federal Reserve but I absolutely do not want anyone to die or be injured in the process.

slamhead
10-17-2012, 05:48 PM
I'm not sure people in general are galvanized by a threat to the Fed.

No but the association for stupid people..Alqaeda hates the fed = I must like and should protect the fed. Alqaeda bad...fed good all the while scratching their heads wondering what the fed is.

Carlybee
10-17-2012, 05:49 PM
One thing is for sure, they won't allow any more protesting in front of Fed Reserve banks.

awake
10-17-2012, 05:52 PM
There! Any anti Fed comments or ideas can be tied to this guy. What are you a terrorist for hating the Fed? This also will redirect a cross section of the Alphabet law enforcments agencies to put bigger priorty in harrasing those with Anti Fed sentaments. Romney won't mention another word about looking into the Fed now that this has happened.

presence
10-17-2012, 05:52 PM
How do you guys get 2 pages into a discussion without a hyperlink?


http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/17/justice/new-york-federal-reserve-terror-plot/index.html


New York (CNN) -- Federal authorities running a sting operation arrested a 21-year-old Bangladeshi man, who came to the U.S. on a student visa and was allegedly planning to blow up the Federal Reserve Bank of New York with what he believed was a 1,000-pound bomb, officials said.
Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis was detained Wednesday after an alleged attempt to detonate the device, which was inert and part of an elaborate investigation by federal authorities and NYPD detectives.
Prosecutors say Nafis was apparently motivated by al Qaeda and traveled to the United States in January under the pretext of attending college in Missouri in order carry out "a terrorist attack on U.S. soil" and to recruit members to form a terrorist cell.
It's not clear whether Nafis maintained al Qaeda ties, but authorities say he apparently claimed that the plot was his own, and that it was his sole motivation for the U.S. trip.
One of the people Nafis apparently contacted was an FBI source to whom he proposed multiple targets, including a high-ranking U.S. official as well as the New York Stock Exchange, authorities said.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/121017095849-ahsan-nafis-fed-reserve-terror-plot-story-body.jpg
Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis, 21, of Bangladesh, allegedly planned a terrorist bombing.


While the details surrounding the suspected plot remain murky, prosecutors say Nafis indicated that he wanted to "destroy America" by going after the nation's financial institutions and ultimately settled on the landmark bank.
The undercover agent, authorities say, also provided 20 bags of 50 pounds each of purported explosives to Nafis, who then stored the material in a warehouse in preparation for the strike.



http://bostinno.com/2012/10/17/fbi-arrest-terrorist-attempting-to-bomb-new-york-federal-reserve/

Nafis “drove a van he believed to be loaded with a 1,000-pound bomb from Long Island to lower Manhattan and placed the van near the Federal Reserve Bank. He then allegedly tried to detonate explosives with a cellphone. He was arrested by the FBI and New York police.”
[]
“explosives that he allegedly sought and attempted to use had been rendered inoperable by law enforcement and posed no threat to the public.”The man will be charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction and attempting to provide material support to al-Qaeda, a press release from the Department of Justice and U.S. attorney’s office said.



http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/17/terror-attack-foiled-federal-reserve_n_1974934.html

"It is important to emphasize that the public was never at risk in this case, because two of the defendant’s ‘accomplices’ were actually an FBI source and an FBI undercover agent. The FBI continues to place the highest priority on preventing acts of terrorism."

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/fbi-yet-again-foils-their-own-fake-terrorist-plot-this-time-targeting-the-ny-federal-reserve_102012

At this point I wish I could laugh at the absurdly obvious nature of the federal government’s involvement in the manufacture of domestic terrorism, but unfortunately it is far too serious a matter.

For those who think the most recent case of 21-year-old Bangladeshi national Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis and the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI’s) major role in said case is something of a fluke, think again.
Indeed, the FBI’s business is manufacturing terrorism of all kinds (http://endthelie.com/2012/03/06/head-of-lulzsec-reportedly-worked-with-fbi-for-months-participated-in-disinformation-campaign/) and breaking the law in the process (http://endthelie.com/2012/03/28/fbi-memo-agents-can-bend-or-suspend-the-law-and-impinge-upon-the-freedoms-of-others/). The two most recent cases I personally covered occurred in February of this year (http://endthelie.com/2012/02/17/more-manufactured-terrorism-courtesy-of-the-fbi/) and then in May of this year as well (http://endthelie.com/2012/05/02/even-more-manufactured-terrorism-courtesy-of-the-fbi/). Let’s not forget that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) also thwarted their own little manufactured terror plot (http://endthelie.com/2012/05/08/cia-thwarts-own-new-underwear-bomber-plot-continues-trend-of-manufactured-terror/) in May of this year as well.
The most recent case involving Nafis has not bucked the trend in the slightest. According to USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/ondeadline/2012/10/17/new-york-federal-reserve-plot-attack/1639617/)‘s latest update at the time of writing this story, Nafis “allegedly met with an undercover FBI agent who provided him with inert explosives.”
Once again, we learn that the “terrorist” actually never was in contact with any real terrorists (other than those hiding behind the safety of a badge) and was never even able to procure real explosives.
Instead, as is the case with so many other cases of the government thwarting their own plots, we learn that Nafis actually would never have done anything if it were not for the help of the FBI.



FBI Entraps Witless Patsy in Federal Reserve Bombing Plot (http://www.infowars.com/fbi-entraps-witless-patsy-in-federal-reserve-bombing-plot/)

A report by Mother Jones and the Investigative Reporting Program at the University of California-Berkley released in 2011 revealed that it is now common practice for the FBI to create terror plots from scratch and entrap witless and even mentally ill patsies.

Captain Shays
10-17-2012, 05:56 PM
http://i33.tinypic.com/1tpwy8.jpg

I want to end the Federal Reserve but I absolutely do not want anyone to die or be injured in the process.

Well I didn't say that, "I want" them to die. I just say that if they die the world would be better off and so would every person on the planet as an individual

James Madison
10-17-2012, 05:57 PM
Sounds like a moron. Thanks guberment for manufacturing threats. Now I can feel safe knowing we brought this evil mooslim to justice. Yoo-Ess-Ayy Yoo-Ess-Ayy Yoo-Ess-Ayy

Captain Shays
10-17-2012, 05:58 PM
Why can't the earth just open up and swallow all the terrosits and all the global bankers together?

Anti Federalist
10-17-2012, 06:12 PM
http://i33.tinypic.com/1tpwy8.jpg

I want to end the Federal Reserve but I absolutely do not want anyone to die or be injured in the process.

The people that run this show launch wars that kill millions, at the drop of the hat.

If you think this will end without a fight or somebody getting hurt, then you are wishing for what will never be.

DerailingDaTrain
10-17-2012, 06:18 PM
I want to end the Federal Reserve but I absolutely do not want anyone to die or be injured in the process.


The people that run this show launch wars that kill millions, at the drop of the hat.

If you think this will end without a fight or somebody getting hurt, then you are wishing for what will never be.

So....you are advocating violence?

AuH20
10-17-2012, 06:38 PM
So....you are advocating violence?

I think he's advocating survival and self-defense.

dannno
10-17-2012, 06:48 PM
Not sure the Fed would want to play up that angle though, it might make people wonder why al Qaeda would possibly care.

Cause obviously only terrorists hate the federal reserve.

James Madison
10-17-2012, 06:51 PM
So....you are advocating violence?

Violence is the natural state of man. Self-defense will be necessary I'm afraid.

Origanalist
10-17-2012, 06:52 PM
Cause obviously only terrorists hate the federal reserve.

Ding, ding ding.

acptulsa
10-17-2012, 07:04 PM
If so, the irony is that the Al Quaeda agent would boost our economy by targeting our Federal Reserve ;P

No, no irony. And no, not necessarily.

One, this is indeed an obvious play to prop up the embattled Fed. Remember when we went into Iraq? The first thing we learned is, he might have been a psychotic, murderous, tyrannical thug, but the Iraqi people considered him their psychotic, murderous, tyrannical thug, and we caused them to rally 'round him like never, ever before. So when I see this guy's silly little dream turned into something resembling reality by the FBI, thus allowing him to live the wet dream for a moment (at considerable taxpayer expense) just to maybe improve the evidence they'd have at his trial and definitely make the headlines better, it smells like it's designed to be a boon to the Fed.

Two, lest we all forget, the basement of the New York Fed is quite possibly now a bigger repository of physical gold than Ft. Knox. So, if you want to jack with the U.S. economy (and we want to fix it), there are few better targets. All of the funny money functions of that Fed branch could and would be taken up by the numerous other Fed branches. In fact, the only thing I can think of that differentiates that particular Fed branch from the rest has nothing to do with the funny 'money' at all. It has to do with a very solid means of exchange in the basement.

The Fed is destroying the 'dollar'. They need no help from other terrorists in devaluing our savings. If you want to cause us problems, do something to the back-up plan. Otherwise known as the nation's gold reserves. Now there's an angle on this whole thing you won't be getting from the mainstream media...

nobody's_hero
10-17-2012, 07:06 PM
Two, lest we all forget, the basement of the New York Fed is quite possibly now a bigger repository of physical gold than Ft. Knox. So, if you want to jack with the U.S. economy (and we want to fix it), there are few better targets. All of the funny money functions of that Fed branch could and would be taken up by the numerous other Fed branches. In fact, the only thing I can think of that differentiates that particular Fed branch from the rest has nothing to do with the funny 'money' at all. It has to do with a very solid means of exchange in the basement.



Well . . . that might not be saying much, lol.

acptulsa
10-17-2012, 07:12 PM
Well . . . that might not be saying much, lol.

You're right. It might not. Lord knows how much of the real national reserve has been looted.

That said, even a little gold goes a hell of a lot farther than an FRN. And is much more worth defending.

Anti Federalist
10-17-2012, 07:15 PM
So....you are advocating violence?

Me?

Oh hell no, that would be a violation of numerous federal, state and local laws.

I'm not out of compliance.

Are you?

'Cos, you know, see something, say something.

nobody's_hero
10-17-2012, 07:24 PM
You're right. It might not. Lord knows how much of the real national reserve has been looted.

That said, even a little gold goes a hell of a lot farther than an FRN. And is much more worth defending.

It's just that the only video footage I've ever seen of gold in a vault in Fort Knox was on the History Channel and all the folks in the video were wearing those thick plastic eyeglasses that were really popular in the late 60's. It's probably been a while since anyone looked inside it.

But yeah, the gold—wherever it is—would be much more important.

The Goat
10-17-2012, 07:35 PM
The power structure falls with the dollar. When the dollar falls that's when you need to worry. When they can't control the USA through economics, the sword will suffice.

Tudo
10-17-2012, 08:31 PM
Oh my that's so scary. Bomb somebody, er, borrow some money and bomb something!

Matthew5
10-17-2012, 08:41 PM
I wish I had a cool job like the FBI :(

...creating fake terrorist all day.

JK/SEA
10-17-2012, 08:44 PM
too bad he did that. Congress will be abolishing the Fed sometime soon anyway.

GunnyFreedom
10-17-2012, 08:55 PM
Shouldn't it be fairly obvious that the target was selected by the FBI?

It also seems that the best way to deflect criticism of the anti Fed movement over this is to point out that the whole plot was created by the FBI to evoke the very reaction that you (mr anti Fed person) are now feeling, because that's how the corrupt stay in power, by debasing the dollars sitting in your wallet right now until all your savings are worthless and you die homeless under a bridge. Are you going to give those bastards the satisfaction of a fifth Ferrari while you are digging trash cans for bread?

When arguing with people who think on that level, always go emotional but backed with logic. If you go logical backed with emotion they will not buy in.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
10-17-2012, 09:12 PM
Law enforcement officials stress that the plot was a sting operation monitored by the FBI and NYPD and the public was never at risk.


Whew. It's amazing how these terrorists keep recruiting the FBI. /s



Be careful what you wish for.... Oklahoma is about to pass a law allowing drones to fly over. And, supposedly by 2015 drones will be legal in the private industry as well - which is how they're going to get away with it.

Yep. They'll hire "contractors" for that shit.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
10-17-2012, 09:16 PM
I'm not sure people in general are galvanized by a threat to the Fed.


No, but the entire trick here is "guilt by association."

1.) Terrorists don't like the federal reserve system.
2.) You don't like the federal reserve system?
3.) You must also be a terrorist.

The public doesn't understand the federal reserve system or why it is a problem, or a cause of many of our current problems. But if they can establish that terrorists don't like it... you see where that is going.

tangent4ronpaul
10-17-2012, 09:21 PM
Hey moron! The monetary base is all electronic, you can't blow it up!

That's not quite accurate. Do you remember those ppl in the UK that built a EMP device into a van and blackmailed banks into paying them with the threat of wiping their computers if they didn't? Also, computers run on electricity and backup generators only run so long. Ever notice that grocery stores and big box stores shut down after major storms when there is a power outage?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbu2o1zVvlo&NR=1&feature=endscreen


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG4iSNmhsL0&feature=related

-t

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
10-17-2012, 09:21 PM
Don't be stupid.

Just because mass arrests haven't happened yet, does not negate the fact that the laws to do just that are on the books.


And these fuckers don't make laws for no reason. Yes, a lot of legislators on state and federal levels are idiots, but the laws are made and passed to be used. Look at the history of shit like seat belt laws. It's obvious.

Carson
10-17-2012, 09:34 PM
There are some comments on this topic over on Fark.com.

The thread title there is;

Obama administration prevents terror attack at Federal Reserve Bank. Romney to blame Obama for not calling it a terror attack soon enough. RON PAUL to blame Obama for interfering

A link to the comments on the story;

http://www.fark.com/comments/7386949


Comments like;

"Wait. If you wanted to "strike at the heart of the nation's financial system", why would you blow up the FED? Aren't they doing a good enough job at it?"

Czolgosz
10-17-2012, 09:42 PM
No but the association for stupid people..Alqaeda hates the fed = I must like and should protect the fed. Alqaeda bad...fed good all the while scratching their heads wondering what the fed is.

Bingo.

The small percentage of individual critical thinkers already get it, but in this Democracy we're out-muscled by the apathetic, ignorant, groupie type. Always have been. Always will be.

Constitutional Paulicy
10-17-2012, 09:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO1-b2QmGoM&feature=youtube_gdata

J_White
10-17-2012, 10:04 PM
yes, that is the sad thing, now anyone can call u a T, for opposing the Fed. was going to happen sooner or later.


Another stooge. This time it has implications for the liberty movement.

fr33
10-17-2012, 10:14 PM
yes, that is the sad thing, now anyone can call u a T, for opposing the Fed. was going to happen sooner or later.No. You can't let them get away with that. We should not capitulate and accept such a destiny. If anyone calls you a terrorist, explain to them why they are wrong and call them a few names as well. Truth matters. Definitions matter.

J_White
10-17-2012, 10:23 PM
No, but the entire trick here is "guilt by association."

1.) Terrorists don't like the federal reserve system.
2.) You don't like the federal reserve system?
3.) You must also be a terrorist.

The public doesn't understand the federal reserve system or why it is a problem, or a cause of many of our current problems. But if they can establish that terrorists don't like it... you see where that is going.

^ This !

acptulsa
10-17-2012, 10:25 PM
I still say our angle should be that he wasn't after the Fed, which is doing a fine job of trashing the economy by itself, but the gold in the basement. It might convince our audience, or it might not. But at least it will get them wondering why that basement is chock full of government gold

Educate them that the Fed is owned by banks, not by us, and they'll get to scratch their heads even harder.

GunnyFreedom
10-17-2012, 10:26 PM
No. You can't let them get away with that. We should not capitulate and accept such a destiny. If anyone calls you a terrorist, explain to them why they are wrong and call them a few names as well. Truth matters. Definitions matter.

hear here and hallelujia!

J_White
10-17-2012, 10:27 PM
No. You can't let them get away with that. We should not capitulate and accept such a destiny. If anyone calls you a terrorist, explain to them why they are wrong and call them a few names as well. Truth matters. Definitions matter.

I wish people were using as much critical thinking as u wish they were. Once they see that the suspect plotted to attack the Fed NY and America, all kinds of associations in the brain would shift subtly and automatically. people wont even notice that these have changed and the next time they hear someone opposing the Fed, subconsciously they would associate that "someone" with a "T".
there is a lot of work to be done.

GunnyFreedom
10-17-2012, 10:28 PM
I still say our angle should be that he wasn't after the Fed, which is doing a fine job of trashing the economy by itself, but the gold in the basement. It might convince our audience, or it might not. But at least it will get them wondering why that basement is chock full of government gold

Educate them that the Fed is owned by banks, not by us, and they'll get to scratch their heads even harder.

good point. "terrorists don't care about the federal reserve dummy, they were after the gold in the vault."

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
10-17-2012, 11:44 PM
good point. "terrorists don't care about the federal reserve dummy, they were after the gold in the vault."


Yeah, but the truth here is that they planned it to be what it was. It was FBI controlled and that is damaging by itself. They have a strategy. It is obvious. We beat the strategy head on, just like what keeps working for us. Well, me anyway. lol The truth is quite sufficiently bad.

headhawg7
10-18-2012, 12:10 AM
No, but the entire trick here is "guilt by association."

1.) Terrorists don't like the federal reserve system.
2.) You don't like the federal reserve system?
3.) You must also be a terrorist.

The public doesn't understand the federal reserve system or why it is a problem, or a cause of many of our current problems. But if they can establish that terrorists don't like it... you see where that is going.Exactly.....

GunnyFreedom
10-18-2012, 12:19 AM
Yeah, but the truth here is that they planned it to be what it was. It was FBI controlled and that is damaging by itself. They have a strategy. It is obvious. We beat the strategy head on, just like what keeps working for us. Well, me anyway. lol The truth is quite sufficiently bad.

Oh I agree, calling the Fed out as the FBI's target and not Al Qaeda's target is the best way to go. Truth is though that terrorists really DON'T care about the Federal Reserve. If an actual Islamic Extremist (tm) were that bent on America's economy they'd go after targets that more directly violate Islamic law, like the commercial banks that compose the Fed. The narrative makes so little sense that the Fed could ONLY have been the FBI's target suggestion, and not this kid's.

I agree with you by the way about it being a bad idea to reinforce the FBI narrative that this kid was the driving factor. I'd only go to the gold vault thing when I am dealing with the truly brain dead, to leave them with seeds of doubt so they will at least tell the government's lies with less conviction. ;)

Captain Shays
10-18-2012, 08:16 AM
We all know that global bankers have funded both sides of just about every war for over 100 years causing human suffering. They, through the WTO<>IMF have drenched despots, and dictators in cash hooking their country on the line for debts they can never pay which caused them to over-extract their natural resources which in turn caused environmental degredation the world over. To keep their votes loyal in the UN they kept the despots on the hook by getting them used to living in opulance and wealth and power.
The despots (whether domestic or foreign) give compromise their national sovereignty voting in favor of global concerns instead of whats best for their own country.

If I hate people that are behind all that and it makes me a terrorist then somebody has a twisted view of terrorist.

Captain Shays
10-18-2012, 08:18 AM
No, but the entire trick here is "guilt by association."

1.) Terrorists don't like the federal reserve system.
2.) You don't like the federal reserve system?
3.) You must also be a terrorist.

The public doesn't understand the federal reserve system or why it is a problem, or a cause of many of our current problems. But if they can establish that terrorists don't like it... you see where that is going.
This thread's high standard REP

belian78
10-18-2012, 09:55 AM
IMO this needs to be your focal point for the first 'truthbomb day' that's being talked about in the herding cats thread. You know the negative PR is going to be coming from the MSM, use this to counter it right out of the gate. FBI selects and grooms patsy, gives him predetermined targets to choose from, gives him fake explosives, then arrests him. Manufactured terror in order to sway public opinion. This is your first truthbomb.

Dark_Horse_Rider
10-18-2012, 10:29 AM
Wasn't the Fead given their own police force recently ?

acptulsa
10-18-2012, 10:34 AM
IMO this needs to be your focal point for the first 'truthbomb day' that's being talked about in the herding cats thread. You know the negative PR is going to be coming from the MSM, use this to counter it right out of the gate. FBI selects and grooms patsy, gives him predetermined targets to choose from, gives him fake explosives, then arrests him. Manufactured terror in order to sway public opinion. This is your first truthbomb.

That certainly is good fodder for a Truth Bomb. I don't think we'll be able to do it properly, however, until some more facts come out. So, don't know about the first Truth Bomb. But, yes, definitely for a Truth Bomb when we have enough ammo. Definitely.


Wasn't the Fead given their own police force recently ?

They had security. They recently got authority to make arrests and/or use lethal force to equal that of certain law enforcement agencies (like the FBI).

Lucille
10-18-2012, 10:47 AM
The guy's dad is pissed. "Conspiracy...playing with a mere boy."

http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=4&islist=false 2:40 mark

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219551/New-York-terror-plot-Quazi-Nafis-attempted-blow-Federal-Reserve-Bank-New-York-1-000-pound-bomb.html

Dark_Horse_Rider
10-18-2012, 11:48 PM
That certainly is good fodder for a Truth Bomb. I don't think we'll be able to do it properly, however, until some more facts come out. So, don't know about the first Truth Bomb. But, yes, definitely for a Truth Bomb when we have enough ammo. Definitely.



They had security. They recently got authority to make arrests and/or use lethal force to equal that of certain law enforcement agencies (like the FBI).

Seems that these kind of things always coincide ( them getting that enforcement agency-like staus and the teroirist bit )

tangent4ronpaul
10-19-2012, 12:06 AM
EXCUSE ME!!! Could we get back to something more productive like planning vs blowing smoke out of your asses???? Do you really want to make a change in this world?

-t

devil21
10-19-2012, 03:22 AM
Second person arrested. Not a muslim name.

http://news.yahoo.com/second-man-arrested-plot-bomb-us-federal-nyt-050115625.html

marc1888
10-19-2012, 04:09 AM
They do this all the time. Half the convicted islamic terrorists in US prisons were approached, brainwashed, set up with dummy guns or bombs and then arrested by the same people who convinced them acts of terror were the way forward.

anaconda
10-19-2012, 04:34 AM
They keep pulling the same shit. This sounds like the 1993 WTC incident.

anaconda
10-19-2012, 04:36 AM
They do this all the time. Half the convicted islamic terrorists in US prisons were approached, brainwashed, set up with dummy guns or bombs and then arrested by the same people who convinced them acts of terror were the way forward.

And anyone stating the obvious is labeled a conspiracy theorist, and all of the sheep follow.

Matthew5
10-19-2012, 07:40 AM
Looks like they're throwing in child porn charges for good measure for the whole guilt by association thing. Now anti-Fed people are perverts and terrorists!

KMX
10-19-2012, 07:47 AM
Lemmings see this and it's fear

We see this and know it's propaganda.