View Full Version : General Romney Bounce Headfake

10-10-2012, 05:24 AM
It is amazing the power the media has to control elections. We saw it all through the primaries and we are seeing it now.

I, still, do not believe Romney has a chance in hell of winning. This "bounce" seems too contrived. Too similar to Cain, Santorum, Gingrich, Bachman... (who did I miss?)

I think the media does this to maintain ratings. And since the media do the bidding of politicians, the politicians are all too willing to oblige the media in their game. The last thing they want is for people to lose interest in the race! We have to keep it going! Let's make it look like Romney has a real chance of winning! Don't worry, we can re-direct the public at any moment we want!

10-10-2012, 06:38 AM
Yep. Although I disagree with the idea that they're directing the public: they're simply saying what they want the public to think and assuming that they think it now.
I think we're all aware that the vote tallies are going to say whatever they want, too. Come to think of it, it'll probably be a close race at this point. Maybe not 2000 close, but close enough to allow people to believe it was legitimate, given how many people hate Obama.

10-10-2012, 08:19 AM
So you think Obama threw the debate for media ratings? :rolleyes:

10-10-2012, 01:32 PM
the polls have tightened and narrowed back to the way they were during the RNC

10-10-2012, 01:45 PM
also not insignificantly the pollsters switched this week from "registered voters/adults" to "likely voters"

10-10-2012, 01:58 PM
No the media and pollsters does not want to look totally foolish on Election night by backing Obama and Romney wins like Reagan did in 1980. The media & polls were like it was going to real close and Reagan destroyed Carter. Now the bankers behind the scenes still dictate what is going to happen especially War with Iran.

10-10-2012, 05:13 PM
Nah. This is a liberal fantasy.

First, every snap poll after the debate, made before people heard from the press and pundits, gave Romney huge wins. Gallup and CNN polls registered the largest margin ever. Focus groups returned similar results.

Second, even if you think there's a great conspiracy of multiple pollsters or something, go through a few political sites/bbs/blogs and check the comments during the debate. Check the DailyKos or DU posts, for example. People were freaking out with the beating Obama was taking 10 minutes in the debate.

Third, the MSM won't do anything to help Romney. They couldn't care less about making this look competitive. They're hugely biased towards Democrats and that hasn't changed in the slightest. And I'm not suggesting there's a media conspiracy to elect Obama - only stuff like JournoList. It's more the natural bias coming from the liberal background of 95% of the journalists. They honestly can't even understand their bias.

There was a great post on redstate about this, I'll quote a bit:

He really does not get it. Chuck Todd reflects most of the media not getting it. As ratings decline, newspaper fold, and they all scream about how biased Fox News is, they do not get it.

Neil King is a political reporter for the Wall Street Journal. He is married to Shailagh Murray who left a reporting job at the Washington Post to take the job of Joe Biden’s communications director. She replaced Jay Carney who moved to the White House and who himself left Time to take the communications director role for Biden.

John Harris of the Politico is married to an abortion rights activist who used to run NARAL Virginia.

The Politico’s Chief Washington Correspondent, Jonathan Allen, left the Politico to work for Debbie Wasserman Schultz, then returned to the Politico.

Andy Barr of the Politico left the Politico to work for the Democratic National Committee and now works for Richard Carmona, the Democrats’ candidate for Senate in Arizona against Jeff Flake.

George Stephanopolous of ABC News used to be a strategist for Bill Clinton and even after becoming Chief Washington Correspondent still engaged in regular conversations with Rahm Emanuel, James Carville, and Paul Begala from the Clinton days. (Ironic, isn’t it, that John Harris wrote that story)

Michael Scherer of Time, where Jay Carney left to go to Joe Biden’s office, got his start in left wing publications, as did Ezra Klein of the Washington Post who famously created the left wing Journolist filled with Washington journalists and pundits to bounce around themes in the left wing echo chamber.

Linda Douglass of ABC News left ABC to serve as Chief Propaganda Officer for the Obama White House in charge of getting Obamacare through.

Andrew Rosenthal of the New York Times made up the story about President George H. W. Bush being surprised and taken aback by a common supermarket check out scanner. The story was made up by Rosenthal who was not even present. Andrew Rosenthal is now the Editor of the New York Times Editorial Page.

The BuzzFeed crew are mostly left of center, hang out with left of center reporters and pundits, and the media considers them and their cat GIFs the second coming of a supposedly objective Huffington Post.

Chuck Todd himself is married to a former DNC staffer and he worked as a Democratic staffer to Senator Tom Harkin. He works with Chris Matthews who worked for a Democrat in Congress and Jimmy Carter. They both work with Andrea Mitchell who is married to Alan Greenspan, the former Chairman of the Federal Reserve. And they’re all just a degree or two removed from Tawana Brawley thanks to their relationship with MSNBC host Al Sharpton.

In other words, Chuck, it is you and your colleagues in the New York-Washington media corridor who are corroding trust — not by covering what Jack Welch and Donald Trump say, but merely by reporting as you do on the issues you cover or are not covering.


Anyway, if you think Romney's bounce was a media creation, watch the first debate yourself.

10-11-2012, 08:01 AM
potus barack obama looked like he was trying to give a sedate guest lecture on the

historic timeframe of the Reconstruction era to a small community college audience

as he was trying to articulate out why the 14th amendment sorta helps along the

bill of rights from time to time if uncle sam is willing to act like a referee at a game.

mitt all along was acting like it was a fifty fifty coinflip that he'd be the next potus.

10-11-2012, 09:05 AM
I think it's possible that Romney picked up some undecideds with his debate performance last week (mostly due to Obama's failure). But what the poll numbers don't reflect is whether it's enough to swing states Romney's way. Every electoral map I've seen shows Obama trouncing Romney.