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DamianTV
10-06-2012, 07:12 PM
I made a post in the Wear Radio Chip or Leave (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?391941-WEAR-RADIO-CHIP-OR-LEAVE-SCHOOL-TELLS-STUDENTS) thread that I wanted to discuss without derailing that thread.


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(click the link to see that post) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?391941-WEAR-RADIO-CHIP-OR-LEAVE-SCHOOL-TELLS-STUDENTS&p=4676256&viewfull=1#post4676256)

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What I see from the related split thread is that any form of total surveillance is a form of Human Livestock Management Practices, which you'd have to read what I said in the other thread to see where I was going with it. I just wanted to see if others see it the same way.

Please debate.

Mr. Perfidy
10-06-2012, 10:22 PM
Great thoughts man- often I visualize or wonder about quantum strings and bubbles and how energy wavelengths and mathematical particle structural patterns are connected in many invisible dimensions irrespective of chronology and location. Some thoughts cut deep with coldness and precision, and come on tibetan winds and long-thought-dead ascetics' mantras. Great stuff man, thanks. Your vision is the long vision (haha I totally steal like indian chief imagery when I speak that term out loud, which is seldom considering so few have it, but I do not say it out loud without pointing to the forehead then outward into the environment), high cliffs and eagles with broad horizons- you see the ruins going backward and the road forward and the armies marching over it. That is the eagle vision, the long vision.. I will honor it with inquisitions from the serpent in the valley, who must be ever-alert for the heels of even the mediocre, who is at home in tunnels and under-growth and is a friend of shadows and the holes in stonework, who tastes the wavelength emissions of fellow beings and its living conditions- from his verse did Tahna learn his Perfidy!

Thus do we go under:


This is Socialism hiding behind Democracy. Over 50% of the parents, as well as students, are probably not going to object to this at all. This same group of people are the same group of people that would claim that smoking pot is Immoral because it is Illegal, when it couldnt possibly be further from the truth. There is no Immorality in Disobedience. But those pushing for these rules will immediately claim that no one else but the complainer has a problem with it

Consider and let us discuss the hysterical fear that rationalizes itself in conformity, (hereafter it is my hope that you call subordination to this fear imperial orthodoxy and also consider and let us discuss the sources of this fear in our education; mothers' pride and their lullabies
fill many hearts with apologies for abominations when they secure resources in times of scarcity. The serpent slips into kitchens of the villagers called by the great many wicked and criminal, and found often stolen chickens in full pots warming, while mothers rested comfortably.

wow man and think about the passive-aggressive, control-freak kinda smirking tyrant parent types, and how enthusiastically they must touch themselves at the thought of the State and its educational apparatus as an extension of their own malicious vigilance. A great many are cooked in this pot and as you say, harvested, into the Outer Party, and awarded resources enough to have offspring with educations and opportunities. Sociopathic scientific tyranny is natural selection, coordinated globally from outer space and inner-mountain sanctums.



In the future, people will be told that this is the way "it has always been". When the kids that grow up having known nothing but total surveillance, they will teach their children the lesson that it is has always been this way, simply because they never knew any different. They will feel naked without the surveillance, and may even demand more of it. They will probably be the majority, too. When they are taught all their lives to be continuously dependant on everyone else for everything, including thinking of surveillance as a service, they only think that freedom means the freedom from the responsibility of thinking for themselves.

Do not speak of this condition as in the future; no prospect or horizon is it- it is not a possible or a perhaps. In the past they said of this condition, "love thy neighbor," and before that and forever backward it existed as stares around the fire, as adult, force-wielder agents in ear-shot armed with gossip.

I think that you would benefit from this experiment:

haha,
1- breathe for a second and collect your attention, in public.
2- do just about anything. or nothing, just stand where people are moving
3- make eye contact with anyone
4- feel that reaction
5- look at it and think on it

the brain has a mechanism from way back that connects the idea of the self to knowledge of the awareness of the other. It needs to be seen, of course, or we go mad. When the world was cold, having eyes on us meant a warning against the predators at our back in the dark. It is comforting. The brain has demands to experience it. haha rocka-by baby shit. I am not condoning this condition- I suspect that you find no comfort in it.



I've stated before that there exists more than one type of Slavery. The most well known being the ownership of another human being. But the ownership of another human being is rejected by the human livestock. But it was soon discovered that humans could still be owned, in order to do so, other forms of slavery needed to be implemented. They did not replace human ownership, but created the illusion that the human livestock was not owned.

I think that you are confusing the cause and effect- really "slavery ended" when the industrial-technical development of the economy required a labor force with more specialized functions and educations and skill-sets, which necessitated adapting the social forms that formerly confined the slave labor classes. Consequently a war was waged to "free the slaves" to the new grids of iron and electric cables that awaited and laid foundations for the next century. Then the great many "rejected slavery." (hahaha yeah right man)


The human livestock is expected to be controlled. Now, the easiest way to control any form of livestock is not to control the body, but to control the mind.

The body made the spirit and the mind to preserve it.


This is why direct ownership of another human being failed when the owned humans were aware of being owned.

This system never failed, especially due to some kind of imagined unrest of the then proletariat and peasantry. It adapted to changing demands of technology- new hives for new workers.


Slavery owns the body, without controlling the mind.


You have a girlfriend? Note that a happy dick is just another jerk-off, but a happy pussy is happy people. Flesh can't be harmed or marinated in fear from threat of harm and not affect the mind man.

I have been in many a wolf-pack rival-male clash parking lot drama, and sooooo often if I choose to maintain the integrity of my reputation or physical space simply and humbly but with an evident force-potential, the aggressor/loud-mouth-idiot/confrontation-seeker will simply pretend to no longer have any problem with me, raise his head and neck like my cats do, with a serpentine rhythm, squint around, and pick a weakling on whom to direct his attention.

and then, feedback loop man. Deflect and bury the fear, express it as aggression but redirected at a more clearly inferior opponent with a greater likelihood of success and diminished probability for lasting physical injury. If you are a fighter, you might notice this rapid calculation from your reptile-mind when sizing up potential-mate rivals or possibly hostile strangers, like, who should I hit first? Who am I not fuckin with at all?

totally lost my train of thought...lol

I think that I am trying to say that mind and the body are a continuum and not a twosome, and so both are each other and affected together.

The Left Hand might ask, are there not a great many women who insist on the existence of some kind of inhibited inability and rigid persistence? Smack that ass right though and those ideas change with the body's responses. The mammal brain is force-conditioned to integrate itself into a position that most effectively limits exposure to harm and to the threats to its physical systems. They used to call this "fides" and obedience and the grace of god and good citizenship.


As a result, Livestock Management Practices were implemented that controlled the mind, thus, the body will follow. Various forms of Slavery were introduced and were not expressed as being a form of Slavery. The most obvious of these is Financial Slavery. But the idea of Financial Slavery being a form of Slavery had to be disguised. This was accomplished by the Illusion of Choice. The Choice was to be a Financial Slave to one Financial Organization or another Financial Organization. And those choices were manipulated by Intellectual Slavery. Intellectual Slavery teaches that Freedom is the Illusion of Choices that are presented. Other types of Slavery exist to reinforce control of the minds. The topic at hand is Education and Tracking of Students. Education is Intellectual Slavery, and teaches us to only choose from the choices that have been presented.

this is accomplished though by threatening the body with the old predator-stares in an arc in the darkness of the boreal forests. And now literally by having lethally-armed aggression-apes in your field of vision and in ear-shot. It is generating wells of swirling psychic trauma- they call the finger they put to dam the tide thats hiding behind the dike "Obama" and "Romney"


There also exists Emotional Slavery. Emotional Dependancy is used to reinforce Intellectual Slavery. You are expected to only feel good about yourself when those that you are told are your Intellectual Superiors tell you that you should now feel good about your thoughts or actions, your Self Esteem is replaced by Conditional Emotional Dependancy. The idea of Emotional Dependancy as a form of Slavery extends itself further into most aspects of our lives. Religious Slavery is a form of this.

the family is a better place to start.


The homeless dont feel good about themselves because they are homeless, because they have Conditional Self Esteem on your expressed opinion of their Social Status.

I do not think this to be generally true- maybe the new homeless, lol. But most homeless people I've known are either the most free and smiling content sages on the face of the earth, or, totally insane crack-heads and drunks.

haha perhaps more later- been ignoring my wife for like an hour and a half now. damn bro.