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DamianTV
09-28-2012, 03:15 PM
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/09/aclu-forces-government-to-reveal-skyrocketing-surveillance-stats/


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Statistics obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union provides additional evidence that government surveillance of Americans has skyrocketed in recent years. The government is legally obligated to release reports about its surveillance activities, but it refused to do so until the ACLU sued to compel the production of the documents.

The reports concern what lawyers call "pen register" and "trap and trace" records. These terms originally referred to hardware devices law enforcement could attach to the phone network to capture information about (but not the contents of) phone calls. Pen registers recorded outgoing phone numbers. Trap and trace devices recorded incoming phone numbers.

Today's telephone networks have the ability to capture this information without any special equipment. And the government has expanded the concept to include other forms of communication such as email.

The legal standard for conducting this kind of non-content surveillance is less stringent than the rules for conducting a wiretap. To get a wiretap order, the government must convince a judge that it is essential to an investigation, but pen registers must merely be "relevant" to an investigation to obtain the approval of a judge.

The statistics uncovered by the ACLU show a striking increase in the frequency of government surveillance. Here is the number of orders issued by the government over the last 12 years:

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Anti Federalist
09-28-2012, 03:28 PM
Already posted:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?391183-Justice-Department%E2%80%99s-Warrantless-Spying-Increased-600-Percent-in-Decade

Based on the lack of comments and views, as usual, nobody much fucking cares.

What's your problem?

Got something to hide?

Reported.

Anti Federalist
09-28-2012, 03:32 PM
Hey, if there is not 24/7 surveillance, how could we see cool shit like this?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?391259-Car-Chase-Suicide-Aired-On-FOX-News

DamianTV
09-28-2012, 04:33 PM
Ooh ooh! Double post! Reported! :P

I think that the problem is that people are trying to pick and choose only what is important to them instead of addressing the issues which undermine the Liberty of everyone. There are a lot of things that I dont post on. But usually, not posting is a result of what was said in the thread being being better off with no response as opposed to saying something I havent established a any sort of response to, and others are like that as well. But asking if people take their privacy seriously, I believe some of them do, and others percieve privacy as an obstacle to their happiness. The latter would demand things like Club Cards because of the Illusion of Choice instead of establishing the expectation that a lower price for everyone is better for everyone, not just offer a discount for those who are willing to give up their privacy. Im sorry, but I think the exact opposite needs to happen. Have some sort of supermarket Club Card? You should be paying MORE because the very concept of Privacy is one of the primary building blocks for Liberty, and doing something to get rid of privacy should be met with incentives to preserve those very foundations, not undermine them.

Pericles
09-28-2012, 06:26 PM
Fortunately, this pertains to the part of the Constitution the ACLU cares about.