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Anti Federalist
09-28-2012, 12:54 PM
Small town, rural Maine, with one of the lowest violent crime rates in the nation.

Coming soon, to serve and protect the ever-loving shit out of you.


Scenes from a Militarized America

http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/

Friday, September 28th, 2012

http://assets.theagitator.com/wp-content/uploads/KennebecSheriff.jpg

From the Facebook page of the Kennebec County, Maine Sheriff’s Office.


Kennebec County Sheriff’s Office and the Augusta Police Department have been working collaboratively by combining resources such as our Special Response Team. This pic was taken recently by staff at the Kennebec Journal as the two teams trained together for tactical approaches and tactical entries. Lookin’ sharp, guys!

Dr.3D
09-28-2012, 12:57 PM
Interesting how they wear all that armor, but leave their heads open for double-ought.

Anti Federalist
09-28-2012, 01:00 PM
Interesting how they wear all that armor, but leave their heads open for double-ought.

And not a single one, "checking six".

Dr.3D
09-28-2012, 01:03 PM
And not a single one, "checking six".
Yep, makes me wonder how many will make it long enough to learn where they went wrong.

Going to war is serious shit.

Anti Federalist
09-28-2012, 01:05 PM
Yep, makes me wonder how many will make it long enough to learn where they went wrong.

Going to war is serious shit.

SMH...damn it, this is gonna be ugly.

Oh, here's another shot of these guys.

Thought only bad guys wore masks?

http://kennebecso.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/SRT-300x224.jpg

Dr.3D
09-28-2012, 01:11 PM
SMH...damn it, this is gonna be ugly.

Oh, here's another shot of these guys.

Thought only bad guys wore masks?

http://kennebecso.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/SRT-300x224.jpg
So does this mean everybody should be dressed like them so they won't know who to shoot at?

I know I wouldn't want to be dressed like that, it would make me a target.

CaptainAmerica
09-28-2012, 01:14 PM
what a bunch of goons.

Anti Federalist
09-28-2012, 01:15 PM
So does this mean everybody should be dressed like them so they won't know who to shoot at?

I know I wouldn't want to be dressed like that, it would make me a target.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXkIXJoiPws

Dr.3D
09-28-2012, 01:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXkIXJoiPws
LOL :D

ClydeCoulter
09-28-2012, 01:25 PM
So does this mean everybody should be dressed like them so they won't know who to shoot at?

I know I wouldn't want to be dressed like that, it would make me a target.

Friendly fire is always a possible problem.

coastie
09-28-2012, 01:26 PM
And not a single one, "checking six".

Who the fuck trains to walk, 8 deep, in single file, in the open like that?

I won't pretend to have combat experience, but with what training I do have, holy christ I would've walked off the training site. Jeez louise they're gonna be in for a rude awakening one day.

Dr.3D
09-28-2012, 01:30 PM
Who the fuck trains to walk, 8 deep, in single file, in the open like that?

I won't pretend to have combat experience, but with what training I do have, holy christ I would've walked off the training site. Jeez louise they're gonna be in for a rude awakening one day.
It's a wonder they didn't tell them to bunch up a little closer.

kathy88
09-28-2012, 01:34 PM
They look ridiculous. Who the hell is training them?

Anti Federalist
09-28-2012, 01:37 PM
Who the fuck trains to walk, 8 deep, in single file, in the open like that?

I won't pretend to have combat experience, but with what training I do have, holy christ I would've walked off the training site. Jeez louise they're gonna be in for a rude awakening one day.

There was an incident in Greenland NH a few months back, where the "Combined Tactical Forces" stormed a man's home for a steroid bust.

Well, that man decided he just wasn't going to be arrested that day and took down one of the raiders, who happened to be the chief of police.

Two other cops were shot, but the system was keeping real mum on what happened to them, other than the wounds were not fatal.

I'm convinced they were shot by their own guys, huddled up in a circular firing squad circle jerk.

coastie
09-28-2012, 01:41 PM
It's a wonder they didn't tell them to bunch up a little closer.

Precisely what I was getting at.

Maybe they made them to fit in the frame of the photo? I doubt it. I see cops all the time making stupid ass mistakes like these, so color me unsurprised.

Their #1 cause of fatality on the job is gonna change from car accidents, to friendly fire, and just generally being picked off in a reverse-firing line kind of way.

Good thing the county they're in never has anything really bad happening, they'll all live a lot longer.

coastie
09-28-2012, 01:43 PM
There was an incident in Greenland NH a few months back, where the "Combined Tactical Forces" stormed a man's home for a steroid bust.

Well, that man decided he just wasn't going to be arrested that day and took down one of the raiders, who happened to be the chief of police.

Two other cops were shot, but the system was keeping real mum on what happened to them, other than the wounds were not fatal.

I'm convinced they were shot by their own guys, huddled up in a circular firing squad circle jerk.

That's probably what happened.

Anyone know whatever happened with that vet that took out like 6 of them here recently when he saw them raiding another house? If they all train like this, I see why he got 6(it may have been more or less, I can't remember).

fisharmor
09-28-2012, 02:17 PM
Who the fuck trains to walk, 8 deep, in single file, in the open like that?

I won't pretend to have combat experience, but with what training I do have, holy christ I would've walked off the training site. Jeez louise they're gonna be in for a rude awakening one day.

They are practicing the same class of failed tactics they use on protesters. Shield walls have been militarily nonviable for what, 2300 years? And the police still use them.

http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Polyb2.html


What therefore is the cause that gives the victory to the Romans, and defeats those, who make use of the Phalanx? It is this: military operations are uncertain both in time and place; whereas the Phalanx has but one time, one place, and one disposition, in which it can perform the service that is expected from it. If therefore there was a necessity for the enemy to engage the Phalanx at its own time, and place, in every decisive action, it is reasonable to conclude from what has been said, that the latter would always prove victorious. But, if this is possible, and easy to be avoided, why should that disposition be, any longer, looked upon as formidable? And, indeed, it is allowed that the Phalanx stands in need of an even and open ground, where there is no lmpediment, such as ditches, chasms, valleys, eminences, and rivers. All these are capable of confounding, and breaking its ranks.

That's from a 1909 translation of an ancient world criticism.

So why practice tactics that have been proven failures for millennia?
Obviously the tactical advantage is not the point.

They do it to strike fear in the heart of their enemies.

They're projecting. They're obviously chickenshits, given the fact that they have to shoot teenage girls and drunk people multiple times out of fear for their safety.
And they therefore think we're all chickenshits.

phill4paul
09-28-2012, 02:23 PM
Jeez, folks, quit critiquing. They might wise up.


Lookin’ sharp, guys!


ETA: And what are those masks? CS? That is some serious Star Wars Storm Trooper looking shit.

coastie
09-28-2012, 02:31 PM
Jeez, folks, quit critiquing. They might wise up.




ETA: And what are those masks? CS? That is some serious Star Wars Storm Trooper looking shit.

Not sure, but I do know it wouldn't stop a .30"06 round...or even a pellet rifle. A Daisy BB gun might bounce off, maybe they're going to fight kids?


For those who've never had one on-you can't see for shit with those masks on, especially if you start sweating.

phill4paul
09-28-2012, 02:36 PM
Not sure, but I do know it wouldn't stop a .30"06 round...or even a pellet rifle. A Daisy BB gun might bounce off, maybe they're going to fight kids?


For those who've never had one on-you can't see for shit with those masks on, especially if you start sweating.

That's why I was asking. I've never seen CS masked configured like that. Was thinking maybe air-soft protection? Regardless, they look like a TIE fighter/storm trooper mask.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSeEPyJneX609EtOc8AToZVwxhFGbZez BnivxWMPZJsQ4mPo71qkw

jcannon98188
09-28-2012, 02:40 PM
I hate that they are training like that. But they look badass, and it would be cool if the police dressed like that for that reason alone :P

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
09-28-2012, 02:44 PM
Interesting how they wear all that armor, but leave their heads open for double-ought.


Ummm, and they also look like dorks.




So does this mean everybody should be dressed like them so they won't know who to shoot at?

I know I wouldn't want to be dressed like that, it would make me a target.


Make sure you are wearing the exact same mask, since that's how they identify non-cops these days.

phill4paul
09-28-2012, 02:45 PM
I hate that they are training like that. But they look badass, and it would be cool if the police dressed like that for that reason alone :P

Oh, yeah. That's soooo kewl. :rolleyes:

acptulsa
09-28-2012, 04:02 PM
ETA: And what are those masks? CS? That is some serious Star Wars Storm Trooper looking shit.

They shoot like storm troopers, too--everywhere and everyone but the target.


Jeez, folks, quit critiquing. They might wise up.

That's a consideration. One or two of the decision makers might even be able to read.

Pericles
09-28-2012, 06:36 PM
"Not long ago it was easy to tell who the bad guys were. They carried Kalashnikovs. Now it is much more complicated, but one thing is sure - any man who covers his face and packs a gun is a legitimate target for any decent citizen." -Col. Jeff Cooper 1993

acptulsa
09-28-2012, 06:53 PM
A mask and a black hat does kind of carry some connotations...

Anti Federalist
09-28-2012, 10:30 PM
"Not long ago it was easy to tell who the bad guys were. They carried Kalashnikovs. Now it is much more complicated, but one thing is sure - any man who covers his face and packs a gun is a legitimate target for any decent citizen." -Col. Jeff Cooper 1993

+rep

jct74
09-28-2012, 10:55 PM
Milwaukee Police Department is looking to kick some ass too, check their website

http://www.milwaukeepolicenews.com




...but Newport Beach police are the ultimate badasses



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_rKA6ROAVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_rKA6ROAVk

ronpaulfollower999
09-29-2012, 06:30 AM
There were 102 comments on their FB page about the photo, but only 4 positive comments remain. Why?


From the Captain:

To all... We work very hard to provide an outstanding level of service to the citizens of Kennebec County. Our Facebook page is here for our "friends" to promote the agency as well as share tips or ask questions about the law enforcement services we provide. What will not be done on this page is scrutiny of the approved budget, negative comments about personnel or the agency,
or opportunities for people to post statements relating to their personal agendas. That is what YOUR page is for.

Please refrain from engaging in this type of activity on this site as anything not approved will be immediately removed and you will be banned from visiting this page.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

Barrex
09-29-2012, 07:43 AM
I am sure this question was asked before but:
Camouflage uniforms? They are for jungle/Forrest environment. They are useless in urban environment. Why would police need them? I am not going into legality of turning police into military and whole police state argument (which is wrong...ok I went there too but....) I am just looking at this from common sense point of view.

DerailingDaTrain
09-29-2012, 08:49 AM
Interesting how they wear all that armor, but leave their heads open for double-ought.



one thing is sure - any man who covers his face and packs a gun is a legitimate target for any decent citizen." -Col. Jeff Cooper 1993


http://i33.tinypic.com/1tpwy8.jpg

acptulsa
09-29-2012, 08:54 AM
I am sure this question was asked before but:
Camouflage uniforms? They are for jungle/Forrest environment. They are useless in urban environment. Why would police need them? I am not going into legality of turning police into military and whole police state argument (which is wrong...ok I went there too but....) I am just looking at this from common sense point of view.

You're not looking at it from the correct common sense point of view. The world is run by the military industrial complex, right? All of the wars of late have been in the desert, right? Military troops in the desert need desert camouflage, right? This leaves the MIC with a bunch of surplus green camo, right? So, the cops have to buy it so the MIC doesn't lose money on it, right?

See? Perfectly logical.

Dr.3D
09-29-2012, 08:55 AM
You're not looking at it from the correct common sense point of view. The world is run by the military industrial complex, right? All of the wars of late have been in the desert, right? Military troops in the desert need desert camouflage, right? This leaves the MIC with a bunch of surplus green camo, right? So, the cops have to buy it so the MIC doesn't lose money on it, right?

See? Perfectly logical.
Why not just have the MIC owned MSM, promote green camo as the latest fashion?

acptulsa
09-29-2012, 08:57 AM
Why not just have the MIC owned MSM, promote green camo as the latest fashion?

Been there, done that, the Chinese invented pink camo before all the surplus was sold, had to go to Plan B.

Anti Federalist
09-29-2012, 11:21 AM
http://i33.tinypic.com/1tpwy8.jpg

Why?

Anti Federalist
09-29-2012, 11:30 AM
There were 102 comments on their FB page about the photo, but only 4 positive comments remain. Why?


From the Captain:

To all... We work very hard to provide an outstanding level of service to the citizens of Kennebec County. Our Facebook page is here for our "friends" to promote the agency as well as share tips or ask questions about the law enforcement services we provide. What will not be done on this page is scrutiny of the approved budget, negative comments about personnel or the agency, or opportunities for people to post statements relating to their personal agendas.

That is what YOUR page is for.

Please refrain from engaging in this type of activity on this site as anything not approved will be immediately removed and you will be banned from visiting this page.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.


Touched a raw nerve there Captain?

acptulsa
09-29-2012, 11:32 AM
Touched a raw nerve there Captain?

See something, say something, get stifled and censored.

presence
09-29-2012, 11:35 AM
"to serve and protect"
http://gloucestercitynews.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bf7d953ef01053622e24f970b-pi

"the ever-loving shit out of you"
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c88.0.403.403/p403x403/425838_10151170120808771_1525885762_n.jpg

Dr.3D
09-29-2012, 11:37 AM
[QUOTE=Anti Federalist;4665566]

Coming soon, to serve and protect the ever-loving shit out of you.

http://assets.theagitator.com/wp-content/uploads/KennebecSheriff.jpg
http://gloucestercitynews.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bf7d953ef01053622e24f970b-pi

WTF happened?
Somebody said there was a war on drugs and it turn out to be a war on people.

Anti Federalist
09-29-2012, 12:00 PM
Somebody said there was a war on drugs and it turn out to be a war on people.

War on Us.

HOLLYWOOD
09-29-2012, 12:04 PM
Didn't know Kennebec county is the bastion of terrorism and foreign invaders.

Kennebec County Sheriff's Office (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kennebec-County-Sheriffs-Office/253938978770?ref=stream) Wednesday

Kennebec County Sheriff's Office and the Augusta Police Department have been working collaboratively by combining resources such as our Special Response Team. This pic was taken recently by staff at the Kennebec Journal as the two teams trained together for tactical approaches and tactical entries. Lookin' sharp, guys! <=== :rolleyes:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c88.0.403.403/p403x403/425838_10151170120808771_1525885762_n.jpg

(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151170120808771&set=a.10150644573283771.411446.253938978770&type=1&relevant_count=1)

Dr.3D
09-29-2012, 12:23 PM
Didn't know Kennebec county is the bastion of terrorism and foreign invaders.

Kennebec County Sheriff's Office (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kennebec-County-Sheriffs-Office/253938978770?ref=stream) Wednesday

Kennebec County Sheriff's Office and the Augusta Police Department have been working collaboratively by combining resources such as our Special Response Team. This pic was taken recently by staff at the Kennebec Journal as the two teams trained together for tactical approaches and tactical entries. Lookin' sharp, guys! <=== :rolleyes:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c88.0.403.403/p403x403/425838_10151170120808771_1525885762_n.jpg

(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151170120808771&set=a.10150644573283771.411446.253938978770&type=1&relevant_count=1)
I know if I was one of those guys, I would be thinking, I can't believe I have to do this shit to get paid. They even had me put a homing light on my pistol so the bad guys can see me better than I can see them.

DerailingDaTrain
09-29-2012, 12:39 PM
Why?

It's pretty obvious why. Read the quotes

Anti Federalist
09-29-2012, 02:29 PM
It's pretty obvious why. Read the quotes

Ummm, I did.

Still not getting it.