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sailingaway
09-27-2012, 01:03 PM
NDAA Plaintiffs Say Obama Flipped Out When A Judge Blocked The Act Because He Was Already Detaining People

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The Obama administration might be coming for you, no matter who you are, according to a group of people fighting President Barack Obama's indefinite detention act.

Chris Hedges, Daniel Ellsberg, and a whole host of others involved in the fight against the National Defense Authorization Act yesterday took to Reddit to answer questions about the act.

A federal judge permanently blocked the NDAA — which allows the government to indefinitely detain anyone even remotely related to terrorism — claiming it has a "chilling effect" on free speech.

But the Obama administration was quick to pounce, saying Judge Katherine B. Forrest overstepped her bounds in opposing the White House.
"Anyone who dissents is in threat," Hedges wrote in response to a question about who should fear the act. "The legislation, as the dumped emails by Wikileaks from the security firm Stafford illustrated, allows the state to tie a legitimate dissident group to terrorism and strip them of their right of dissent."
Another Redditor asked why Obama was so quick to fight Forrest's ruling.

"If the Obama administration simply appealed it, as we expected, it would have raised this red flag," Hedges wrote. "But since they were so aggressive it means that once Judge Forrest declared the law invalid, if they were using it, as we expect, they could be held in contempt of court. This was quite disturbing, for it means, I suspect, that U.S. citizens, probably dual nationals, are being held in military detention facilities almost certainly overseas and maybe at home."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-plaintiffs-answer-questions-on-reddit-2012-9#ixzz27ejX44RY

Dr.3D
09-27-2012, 01:15 PM
And the worse thing about it is, nobody knows or will know if anybody is being illegally held captive by the U.S. government. Of course those who do know are sworn to secrecy and thus would have the same thing happen to them if they spilled the beans.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
09-27-2012, 01:28 PM
They don't make laws in order to not use them. I'm pretty certain of that. Not to mention, they usually start doing illegal shit, then pass the law later using their current practice as justification for the new law they need. Not that i need to tell you guys this, but that's really fucked up.

Lucille
09-27-2012, 01:50 PM
But how can we be free if the imperial president can't indefinitely detain or assassinate citizens without due process?


"This was quite disturbing, for it means, I suspect, that U.S. citizens, probably dual nationals, are being held in military detention facilities almost certainly overseas and maybe at home."

You know it.

King George III, by comparison, was "a very mild tyrant indeed." /Sobran

PaulConventionWV
09-27-2012, 02:08 PM
The Obama administration might be coming for you, no matter who you are, according to a group of people fighting President Barack Obama's indefinite detention act.

Chris Hedges, Daniel Ellsberg, and a whole host of others involved in the fight against the National Defense Authorization Act yesterday took to Reddit to answer questions about the act.

A federal judge permanently blocked the NDAA — which allows the government to indefinitely detain anyone even remotely related to terrorism — claiming it has a "chilling effect" on free speech.

But the Obama administration was quick to pounce, saying Judge Katherine B. Forrest overstepped her bounds in opposing the White House.
"Anyone who dissents is in threat," Hedges wrote in response to a question about who should fear the act. "The legislation, as the dumped emails by Wikileaks from the security firm Stafford illustrated, allows the state to tie a legitimate dissident group to terrorism and strip them of their right of dissent."
Another Redditor asked why Obama was so quick to fight Forrest's ruling.

"If the Obama administration simply appealed it, as we expected, it would have raised this red flag," Hedges wrote. "But since they were so aggressive it means that once Judge Forrest declared the law invalid, if they were using it, as we expect, they could be held in contempt of court. This was quite disturbing, for it means, I suspect, that U.S. citizens, probably dual nationals, are being held in military detention facilities almost certainly overseas and maybe at home."

Sends chills down one's spine. Especially the fact that he can say those words with a straight face and clear conscience.

phill4paul
09-27-2012, 02:31 PM
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