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sailingaway
09-25-2012, 11:15 AM
NEW YORK -- Four Connecticut librarians who were gagged by the FBI spoke publicly for the first time today at an American Civil Liberties Union news conference about their months-long battle against Patriot Act demands for patrons' library records.

Government officials previously refused to lift the permanent gag on the librarians, citing national security concerns. However, the government abandoned its claims after Congress concluded debate and voted to reauthorize the Patriot Act.

"Our clients were gagged by the government at a time when Congress needed to hear their voices the most," said Ann Beeson, ACLU Associate Legal Director. "This administration has repeatedly shown that it will hide behind the cloak of national security to silence its critics and cover up embarrassing facts. Every time the government invokes national security in defense of secrecy -- as they've done most recently with NSA wiretapping -- the American public should remember these four librarians."

The four librarians, members of a Connecticut consortium called the Library Connection, sought help from the ACLU after the FBI demanded patron records through a National Security Letter. This controversial Patriot Act tool allows the government to demand, without court approval, records of people who are not suspected of any wrongdoing. Anyone who receives such a demand is gagged from disclosing the mere existence of the request.

"As a librarian, I believe it is my duty and responsibility to speak out about any infringement to the intellectual freedom of library patrons," said Peter Chase, Director of the Plainville Public Library and Vice-President of Library Connection in Connecticut. "But until today, my own government prevented me from fulfilling that duty."

The ACLU and the librarians today sharply criticized the government for insisting the gag was necessary even though government officials carelessly neglected to redact the Library Connection's name in multiple legal documents. The New York Times was the first to notice and reveal "John Doe's" identity in September 2005 but the government waited until April, more than six weeks after the Patriot Act had been reauthorized by Congress, to drop its legal battle to keep the gag intact.

"Even though our identity was public due to the government's own mistakes, they still insisted we could not speak," said Barbara Bailey, Director of Welles-Turner Memorial Library in Glastonbury, Connecticut, another of the librarians involved in the ACLU lawsuit. "It was difficult to sit among colleagues and listen to them discuss 'John Doe.' I had to work hard to keep my mouth shut, or I would risk jail time."

more at link: http://www.aclu.org/national-security/librarians-speak-out-first-time-after-being-gagged-patriot-act

kathy88
09-25-2012, 11:20 AM
Every guy's fantasy. The dirty librarian.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
09-25-2012, 11:28 AM
Every guy's fantasy. The dirty librarian.

I thought it was the sexy librarian. Dirty librarian conjures up a different picture for me, no thanks to 300 pound school librarians. brrrrrr.

kathy88
09-25-2012, 11:29 AM
By dirty.... I meant something like this.


http://cltampa.com/imager/sexy-librarian/b/original/2268690/67fa/sexy-librarian.jpg

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
09-26-2012, 09:45 AM
:) :) :) Approved!

Czolgosz
09-26-2012, 09:50 AM
I thought it was the sexy librarian. Dirty librarian conjures up a different picture for me, no thanks to 300 pound school librarians. brrrrrr.

Details, please. With pics, if possible.

Athan
09-26-2012, 09:52 AM
So naughty!

specsaregood
09-26-2012, 09:55 AM
Every guy's fantasy. The dirty librarian.

I don't think it is even in the top 5 for most guys.

kathy88
09-26-2012, 09:59 AM
I don't think it is even in the top 5 for most guys.

Okay. Maybe it's just me. LOL.

specsaregood
09-26-2012, 10:03 AM
Okay. Maybe it's just me. LOL.

Hrm, the dirty librarian AND a poster named kathy....now that might start to get into the top 5 range for some. :)

coastie
09-26-2012, 10:42 AM
So were they gagged by a ball, or just a piece of paper? Serious question, not related to the dirty librarian jokes.....(although....nvm)

Seriously- were they physically gagged or just " ordered" not to talk. Good thing the founders didn't just shut up when told to.

Give me an "order" like that, under these UNCONSTITUTIONAL circumstances, and Ill make sure I tell EVERYONE I know about it, post here, etc.

The Goat
09-26-2012, 10:50 AM
So were they gagged by a ball, or just a piece of paper? Serious question, not related to the dirty librarian jokes.....(although....nvm)

Seriously- were they physically gagged or just " ordered" not to talk. Good thing the founders didn't just shut up when told to.

Give me an "order" like that, under these UNCONSTITUTIONAL circumstances, and Ill make sure I tell EVERYONE I know about it, post here, etc.

Not if your indefinitely detained.

coastie
09-26-2012, 11:33 AM
Not if your indefinitely detained.


I have some (some=very little) faith in the legal system, it was a judge that said "what the fuck, release this man!" for Brandon Raub (weeks) after his kidnapping, but at least Brandon's telling his story now, free.



ETA: lmao on your comment on the +rep, it would be a short ride for me, wouldn't it?

Dr.3D
09-26-2012, 12:24 PM
Not if your indefinitely detained.
By the "dirty" librarian? Now that's getting pretty kinky.

better-dead-than-fed
09-26-2012, 12:39 PM
more at link: http://www.aclu.org/national-security/librarians-speak-out-first-time-after-being-gagged-patriot-act
That article is from six years ago. Today's ACLU is inviting similar censorship: http://better-dead-than-fed.tumblr.com/post/28212519416/open-letter-to-the-aclu

Brian4Liberty
09-26-2012, 01:46 PM
http://cdn.head-fi.org/c/cd/212x219px-LL-cd2bc46d_thread-derail-1953.jpg

dannno
09-26-2012, 03:46 PM
http://cdn.head-fi.org/c/cd/212x219px-LL-cd2bc46d_thread-derail-1953.jpg

What do you expect when you put "librarians" and "gag" in the same sentence?

sailingaway
09-26-2012, 04:15 PM
I have some (some=very little) faith in the legal system, it was a judge that said "what the fuck, release this man!" for Brandon Raub (weeks) after his kidnapping, but at least Brandon's telling his story now, free.



ETA: lmao on your comment on the +rep, it would be a short ride for me, wouldn't it?

You don't GET a judge under NDAA.

TheGrinch
09-26-2012, 04:18 PM
I don't think it is even in the top 5 for most guys.
I dunno, sexy librarian fighting the Patriot act could easily crack my top 5.