New Hampshire: Obama 48%, Romney 47% (Likely Voters)

[RonPaulFanInGA]

http://americanresearchgroup.com/nhpoll/pres12/


Obama 48%, Romney 46%, Other 2%, Undecided 4% (registered voters)

Among 463 registered voters in New Hampshire saying they will definitely vote in November, Obama leads Romney 48% to 47%.

"Free state." :rolleyes:

[ZENemy]

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"Free state." :rolleyes:

Haha, I came in this thread to say exactly that.

[TheTexan]

"Free state." :rolleyes:

Free'est state in the country. The problem is, its still in the country. We should probably get on that.

[TCE]

It's pretty good at the state level except for the Governor, but in terms of anything federal, well, ugh.

[Anti Federalist]

Other.

That 2 percent could have done it.

No One But Paul, fuckers.

[Anti Federalist]

Much more free than Georgia.

[Keith and stuff]

Are the first 2 posts in this thread very confusing or am I drunk? What does Obama and Romney being in a statistical tie in New Hampshire have to do with it being selected by the Free State Project voters in the which state vote?

Even though I have no idea what you are talking about. I thank you for this opportunity to compare GA and NH.

http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011
NH
#1 Overall
#2 Economic
#11 Personal

GA
#15 Overall
#11 Economic
#31 Personal

You tell me, which is freer?

Or how about this...
GA created motorcycle only checkpoints with federal money for the sole purpose of harassing motorcyclist.
http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2011/03/03/georgia-state-justifies-motorcycle-checkpoints-location-disclosed/

NH responded by passing a law to prevent the federal government from bribing Manchester police in that way.
http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/News/12-07-19/California_bans_Illinois_restricts_motorcycle-only_checkpoints.aspx

How about this...
Ron Paul did best in New Hampshire and terrible in GA.

Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in the Republican Primary or Republican Caucus, ranked highest to lowest (and the 2008 percentage):
1. New Hampshire 4.3% (1.4%)
24. Georgia 0.6% (0.3%)

41% of the endorsements of Ron Paul by legislators came from NH legislators.
0% of the endorsements of Ron Paul by legislators came from GA legislators.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?317094-Ron-Paul-Endorsements-from-Elected-Officials

I could go on and on. Anyway, the OP was very strange and seemed to relate to nothing.

[Anti Federalist]

Just a stab at us Yankees I guess.


Are the first 2 posts in this thread very confusing or am I drunk? What does Obama and Romney being in a statistical tie in New Hampshire have to do with it being selected by the Free State Project voters in the which state vote?

Even though I have no idea what you are talking about. I thank you for this opportunity to compare GA and NH.

http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011
NH
#1 Overall
#2 Economic
#11 Personal

GA
#15 Overall
#11 Economic
#31 Personal

You tell me, which is freer?

Or how about this...
GA created motorcycle only checkpoints with federal money for the sole purpose of harassing motorcyclist.
http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2011/03/03/georgia-state-justifies-motorcycle-checkpoints-location-disclosed/

NH responded by passing a law to prevent the federal government from bribing Manchester police in that way.
http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/News/12-07-19/California_bans_Illinois_restricts_motorcycle-only_checkpoints.aspx

How about this...
Ron Paul did best in New Hampshire and terrible in GA.

Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in the Republican Primary or Republican Caucus, ranked highest to lowest (and the 2008 percentage):
1. New Hampshire 4.3% (1.4%)
24. Georgia 0.6% (0.3%)

41% of the endorsements of Ron Paul by legislators came from NH legislators.
0% of the endorsements of Ron Paul by legislators came from GA legislators.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?317094-Ron-Paul-Endorsements-from-Elected-Officials

I could go on and on. Anyway, the OP was very strange and seemed to relate to nothing.

[TCE]

Just a stab at us Yankees I guess.

If you guys have something called the "Free State Project" and you haven't convinced every person in the state to not vote for Obama/Romney, then the entire thing is obviously a failure. We shouldn't even pay attention to the strides made at the state and local levels because of this one poll. /sarc

[Keith and stuff]

Just a stab at us Yankees I guess.

Perhaps :) I'm not a Yankee and was in the military in GA.

Anyway, I will try to make peace. I know of a pro-liberty candidate for GA State House. He isn't talked about here much but I've met him and think he would make a good legislator. If you live in GA, check him out.

http://www.carterkessler.com/
https://www.facebook.com/kesslerforstatehouse
https://twitter.com/carterkessler

[Anti Federalist]

If you guys have something called the "Free State Project" and you haven't convinced every person in the state to not vote for Obama/Romney, then the entire thing is obviously a failure. We shouldn't even pay attention to the strides made at the state and local levels because of this one poll. /sarc

I'm doing everything I can to sour people on Romney.

If for no other reason I don't want the national security apparatus, basically, showing up in my back yard.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

If you guys have something called the "Free State Project" and you haven't convinced every person in the state to not vote for Obama/Romney, then the entire thing is obviously a failure.

"Every person"? How about just ten percent? Five percent? Even one percent? 99.1% in New Hampshire voted for Obama and McCain in 2008.

People bill New Hampshire as a "free state" because of some arbitrary things done at sporadic intervals, but when it gets down to the nitty-gritty, 98% of their electorate is going to vote for Obama and Romney this November, just like every other "less free" state.

[Anti Federalist]

"Every person"? How about just ten percent? Five percent? Even one percent? 99.1% voted for Obama and McCain in 2008.

People bill New Hampshire as a "free state" because of some arbitrary things done at sporadic intervals, but when it gets down to the nitty-gritty, 98% of their population is going vote for Obama and Romney, just like every other "less free" state.

Incorrect.

98 percent of people that bother to vote for president.

[Keith and stuff]

People bill New Hampshire as a "free state" because of some arbitrary things done at sporadic intervals, but when it gets down to the nitty-gritty, 98% of their population is going vote for Obama and Romney, just like every other "less free" state.

What are the options besides Obama and Romney? Gary Johnson has done no advertising in NH. An admin of this forum says he isn't pro-liberty 100s of people on this forum agree. The Green Party person is worse than Obama or Romney. Obama and Romney has put maybe 10s of millions of dollars into advertising. 1 of them should win in NH.

Personally, I don't know of a single free stater paying a lot of attention to that. We have a 129 pro-liberty candidates on the 11/6 ballot. How many does GA have? As far as I know, at least Carter. The 10,000s of liberty activists in GA should be pushing a vote for nobody campaign since there are no good candidates on the ballot in GA. Why don't the GA polls show 51% for nobody?

I am sorry but you make no sense. I recommend sleeping on it.

[TCE]

"Every person"? How about just ten percent? Five percent? Even one percent? 99.1% in New Hampshire voted for Obama and McCain in 2008.

People bill New Hampshire as a "free state" because of some arbitrary things done at sporadic intervals, but when it gets down to the nitty-gritty, 98% of their population is going vote for Obama and Romney, just like every other "less free" state.

At the state level, it is looking more and more like sunshine and rainbows. They're heading in a better direction than the other 49 states. The Presidency won't be affected by the FSP in the near future more likely than not, but that's not their purpose. It was to fundamentally change things at the state and local levels and hope some of it trickled up to the federal levels. They have made strides in every category since 2008.

[Pericles]

The point being that how does one reconcile state support with individual liberty, and also vote for a Democratic party candidate for President who will be the antithesis of individual liberty. There is a serious disconnect there.

[kathy88]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

How odd.

[Philhelm]

How odd.

Sounds Communist to me. We need to spread the Reputation around, I see.

[TheTexan]

"Every person"? How about just ten percent?

FSP is a work in progress. While the gains the FSP has made have been very impressive considering that only a fraction of their target goal have moved there, it would work even better with more people.

[VanBummel]

Other.

That 2 percent could have done it.

No One But Paul, fuckers.

Aww yeah. :cool:


Much more free than Georgia.

Aww. :(

[Keith and stuff]

Aww yeah. :cool:

Aww. :(

But seriously, please help get this guy elected.
http://www.carterkessler.com/
https://www.facebook.com/kesslerforstatehouse
https://twitter.com/carterkessler
It is really annoying that not even a single legislator in GA endorsed Ron Paul. It is also annoying that over 40% of the legislators that endorsed Ron Paul live in the same state. I would like Rand Paul (if he runs in 2016) to get at least 1 endorsement in every state.

[VBRonPaulFan]

Sounds Communist to me. We need to spread the Reputation around, I see.

i tried to +rep this comment because it was hilarious, and I got this:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Philhelm again.

goddamn socialism spreads like a disease :(

[The Free Hornet]

Are the first 2 posts in this thread very confusing or am I drunk? What does Obama and Romney being in a statistical tie in New Hampshire have to do with it being selected by the Free State Project voters in the which state vote?

I for one am jealous of what you got going in NH. Too bad the pollsters don't find out how many Romney votes are anti-Obama and how many Obama votes are anti-Romney. People with identical political philosophies can differ in how they answer a poll.

As to the first two posters. F' em. LOL! (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?390307-A-further-erosion-of-First-Amendment-limitations.-Judge-jails-woman-for-posting-lol.)

The curious ought to read about the Free State voting procedure and the process of selection/elimination that lead to New Hamsphire:

freestateproject.org/news/releases/nhrelease.php (http://freestateproject.org/news/releases/nhrelease.php)
freestateproject.org/archives/state_vote/FSP-ECL-CertificationCompleted.htm (http://freestateproject.org/archives/state_vote/FSP-ECL-CertificationCompleted.htm)

If it wasn't for business/career/money... I'd go.

The Free State Project can be replicated at every level. Unfree states could do a "Free County Project", unfree counties could do a "Free Village Project".

Many religious and ethnic minorities hae improved their lot by congregating with like-minded people. People wanting freedom could do the same. This would have positive affects on your local officials, police, neighbors, and maybe your taxes too.

There is also a Free State Wyoming group:

www.freestatewyoming.org (http://www.freestatewyoming.org/)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Wyoming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Wyoming)

[The Free Hornet]

FSP is a work in progress. While the gains the FSP has made have been very impressive considering that only a fraction of their target goal have moved there, it would work even better with more people.

I imagine someday moving to NH and meeting my neighbors for the first time...

them: "What brings you to the Granite State?" :)

me: "I'm here to free the fuck out of you!" :cool:

them: :eek:

me: :D

RonPaulFanInGA & ZENemy: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Philhelm]

i tried to +rep this comment because it was hilarious, and I got this:


goddamn socialism spreads like a disease :(

I think we have reputation inflation. People just keep introducing more reputation into the forum.

[Keith and stuff]

The latest New Hampshire poll.
Election 2012: New Hampshire President
New Hampshire: Romney 48%, Obama 45%, Other 4%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/new_hampshire/election_2012_new_hampshire_president

Both polls show a tie based on margin of error data. Both polls show other making up more than the different between the 2 major candidates. I would not at all be upset if that happened.

[nobody's_hero]

Incorrect.

98 percent of people that bother to vote for president.

This is true. I think America's best hope rests with people who hate politics. They might not even realize it, but they're much closer to saving this country than Joe Voter, the Red-Versus-Blue Cheerleader.

[Anti Federalist]

This is true. I think America's best hope rests with people who hate politics. They might not even realize it, but they're much closer to saving this country than Joe Voter, the Red-Versus-Blue Cheerleader.

Bing - fucking - go!

I, personally, have had the most success "waking people up" that have had no prior political leanings and thus, no intellectual baggage to overcome.